Tiberius Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 22 hours ago, B-Man said: 10 Realities of Ukraine by Victor Davis Hanson https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/03/17/10_realities_of_ukraine_147345.html One -- Reassuring an enemy what one will not do ensures that the enemy will do just that and more. Unpredictability and occasional enigmatic silence bolster deterrence. But President Joe Biden's predictable reassurance to Russian President Vladimir Putin that he will show restraint means Putin likely will not. Two -- No-fly zones don't work in a big-power, symmetrical standoff. In a cost-benefit analysis, they are not worth the risk of shooting down the planes of a nuclear power. They usually do little to stop planes outside of such zones shooting missiles into them. Sending long-range, high-altitude anti-aircraft batteries to Ukraine to deny Russian air superiority is a far better way Well worth taking the time to read. Plenty there I agree with, or wouldn't bother arguing against because it's more right than wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Putin sparks fears of new 'Red Terror' in 'Stalin-esque' speech on 'fifth column' traitors in Russia Putin called for a 'self-cleansing' of pro-Western 'scum and traitors' earlier this week He called for a "self-purification" to rid Russia of internal war critics and accused the West of "canceling" Russia on the world stage while claiming Europe has "united" itself with "Hitler’s aggression" against Russia. A banner on the stage read, "For a world without Nazism" in Russian. Before invading Ukraine, he accused Kyiv of being run by "neo-Nazis" and "drug addicts." https://www.foxnews.com/world/putins-stalin-esque-speech-fifth-column-traitors-russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Russian war ships aPproaching Odessa. Where are the anti ship missiles? If Hezbollah could blast an Israeli ship in 2006 I’m sure Ukraine has some weapons waiting in surprise for Putins ships. Perhaps like the defenders of Wake Island in 1941 the Ukrainians are playing it cool waiting for the ships to come in closer to blast them. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10575397/Menacing-armada-seaborne-Russian-troops-poised-attack-Odessa.html 5 hours ago, ALF said: Putin sparks fears of new 'Red Terror' in 'Stalin-esque' speech on 'fifth column' traitors in Russia Putin called for a 'self-cleansing' of pro-Western 'scum and traitors' earlier this week He called for a "self-purification" to rid Russia of internal war critics and accused the West of "canceling" Russia on the world stage while claiming Europe has "united" itself with "Hitler’s aggression" against Russia. A banner on the stage read, "For a world without Nazism" in Russian. Before invading Ukraine, he accused Kyiv of being run by "neo-Nazis" and "drug addicts." https://www.foxnews.com/world/putins-stalin-esque-speech-fifth-column-traitors-russia The New North Korea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Russian war ships aPproaching Odessa. Where are the anti ship missiles? If Hezbollah could blast an Israeli ship in 2006 I’m sure Ukraine has some weapons waiting in surprise for Putins ships. Perhaps like the defenders of Wake Island in 1941 the Ukrainians are playing it cool waiting for the ships to come in closer to blast them. THE BEST WAR EVER!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 The question is why he treats his supporters like they're stupid? Because they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, BillStime said: The question is why he treats his supporters like they're stupid? Because they are. May I suggest that you’re literally the last person the on planet that should be calling anyone stupid? Stick with freak, POS and even idiot. Edited March 20, 2022 by SoCal Deek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, SoCal Deek said: May I suggest No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: No I apologize….am I disturbing your internet kingdom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Wait! Is this about Trump? I could hardly find the reference buried in there. If only title Anti-Christ wasn’t so over used you could toss that in there. Keep that one in reserve. 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, BillStime said: The question is why he treats his supporters like they're stupid? Because they are. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/nord-stream-2-biden-gift-to-putin-could-destabilize-europe-2021-10%3famp Actually Cruz is right and you are wrong again. For a guy who "pays attention" your memory is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/nord-stream-2-biden-gift-to-putin-could-destabilize-europe-2021-10%3famp Actually Cruz is right and you are wrong again. For a guy who "pays attention" your memory is terrible. lmao... Explain how Trump's sanctions stopped the pipeline? Did it? Explain how the United States has any controls over an arrangement that they are not a party to between two different countries on a different continent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, BillStime said: Well, yeah Dr. Caroline. Anyone that looks into Jack Posobiec for 10 minutes will find out he's a dime-a-dozen alt-right stooge whose opinion on basically anything is safely ignored. There are far more rational commentators on the conservative side of the political spectrum. Posobiec is a hack among hacks who is only able to exist because Social Media is a cancer. Edited March 20, 2022 by Coffeesforclosers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Well, yeah Dr. Caroline. Anyone that looks into Jack Posobiec for 10 minutes will find out he's a dime-a-dozen alt-right stooge whose opinion on basically anything is safely ignored. There are far more rational commentators on the conservative side of the political spectrum. Posobiec is a hack among hacks who is only able to exist because Social Media is a cancer. Posobiec has a dark underbelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Apologies for adding substance to this thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Putin's war against Ukraine may have spiritual, religious foundations: 'Good vs. evil' Smith heads EEM (Eastern European Ministry), an organization that has supplied millions of Bibles to Ukraine's public schools. Yes, Ukraine's public schools — because the Ukrainian government has recognized the value of teaching the Good Book to young, impressionable minds. "Ukraine, to some extent, is kind of the Bible Belt of Eastern Europe. They have been pushing Christian values, they have been standing up for God for a long time, and they've been a beacon of light for quite some time now." https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/putin-war-ukraine-spiritual-religious-foundations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 WTF is Caroline Orr Bueno and why should anyone care what she (?) says? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 12 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: May I suggest that you’re literally the last person the on planet that should be calling anyone stupid? Stick with freak, POS and even idiot. You calling somebody, anybody, stupid? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 6 hours ago, John Adams said: Apologies for adding substance to this thread. Don't apologise, that's a very interesting discussion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc said: WTF is Caroline Orr Bueno and why should anyone care what she (?) says? I can't like this post enough. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc said: WTF is Caroline Orr Bueno and why should anyone care what she (?) says? No different than your opinion - right champ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 Here is another article on the Russian truck problems https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/03/18/as-predicted-the-russian-army-is-running-out-of-trucks-for-its-war-in-ukraine/?sh=42a251577c44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 Quote There is currently no rail traffic from Belarus into Ukraine, and Russian forces are not using the railways between the two countries to bolster its invasion force in Ukraine, according to the head of the Ukrainian state railway. “I recently appealed to Belarusian railway workers not to carry out criminal orders and not transport Russian military forces in the direction of Ukraine,” Oleksandr Kamyshin, director of the Ukrzaliznytsya state railroad, told Current Time. Oleksandr Kamyshin “At the present moment, I can say that there is no railway connection between Ukraine and Belarus. I cannot discuss details, but I am grateful to Belarus’s railway workers for what they are doing,” he said. https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-belarus-railways-supplies-cut-off/31761964.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: You calling somebody, anybody, stupid? 😂 Did I call him stupid? Misguided and obsessed for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Believe it when I see it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: Believe it when I see it... Even if not true not it’s a nice move by Ukraine to make Putin even more paranoid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chef Jim Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 He’s still pushing and no one is standing up to him. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdPCJwFT/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: DL passed. The Ukrainians refused, saying surrender wasn't an option. The Russians said they will cleanse the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 This is oddly hard to find in searches and the cc is terrible but the message is strong https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/environment/on-gps-zelenskys-hope-for-ukraine/vi-AAVigOp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 44 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This is oddly hard to find in searches and the cc is terrible but the message is strong https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/environment/on-gps-zelenskys-hope-for-ukraine/vi-AAVigOp Here's the original tweet: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: DL passed. The Ukrainians refused, saying surrender wasn't an option. The Russians said they will cleanse the city. I'm sure you know the reference, "Nuts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: DL passed. The Ukrainians refused, saying surrender wasn't an option. The Russians said they will cleanse the city. What Putin does to Mariupol while we watch won't be easy to overlook. Not calling for WWIII but I do wonder where the line is here. Can Putin nuke a city and we just watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, John Adams said: What Putin does to Mariupol while we watch won't be easy to overlook. Not calling for WWIII but I do wonder where the line is here. Can Putin nuke a city and we just watch? I expect you're using "nuke" figuratively. If he ever used a nuclear weapon against a city there would be no turning back. It is simply unthinkable, and I am starting to doubt his military would obey a clearly illegal order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Turkey said yesterday that their might be an agreement soon. That seems to have gone the way of the Do Do. Video out today of Russia troops breaking up anti-occupation protests in Kherson with live ammo. 9 hours ago, Motorin' said: Here's the original tweet: Yeah. Russia's going to turn this from a left vs right, East vs west thing, into a good vs evil thing. Simply by being brutal and stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, sherpa said: I expect you're using "nuke" figuratively. If he ever used a nuclear weapon against a city there would be no turning back. It is simply unthinkable, and I am starting to doubt his military would obey a clearly illegal order. He's effectively nuking a city. And if did launch a nuke, then what? Seriously. Is a retaliatory nuke ever worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sherpa Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, John Adams said: He's effectively nuking a city. And if did launch a nuke, then what? Seriously. Is a retaliatory nuke ever worth it? He isn't effectively using a nuclear weapon. Nuclear weapons have long lasting radiation effects, and he doesn't need to. If he did, that would be the end of this Russian regime. Yes, a retaliatory nuclear strike is worth it, if they launched a nuc against a US target. This aint that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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