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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Good God.

 

 

 

My base assumption when assessing unverifiable "information" originating with intelligence agencies wherever and whomever they work for is they are lying.  And why wouldn't they?  Lying is a basic skill requirement defined in the job description.       

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3 hours ago, ALF said:

 

In 2021, the European Union imported 155 billion cubic metres of natural gas from Russia, accounting for around 45% of EU gas imports

https://www.iea.org/news/how-europe-can-cut-natural-gas-imports-from-russia-significantly-within-a-year

Was gonna mention this.  Poland and others are making moves to switch to Norway for their gas.

2 hours ago, 716er said:

Interestingly enough the first 30 or so pages of this thread are full of folks saying the war won't happen.

In Poland I can say everyone I've spoken with didn't think the war would expand either.  By all accounts Ukraine wasn't even sure- they thought Putin was posturing.

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6 hours ago, ALF said:

 

In 2021, the European Union imported 155 billion cubic metres of natural gas from Russia, accounting for around 45% of EU gas imports

https://www.iea.org/news/how-europe-can-cut-natural-gas-imports-from-russia-significantly-within-a-year

 

The EU Parliament just voted for a total fossil fuel embargo of Russia.  I have no idea if it's binding (leaning strongly towards no), but that's quite the 180 from 8 weeks ago.

 

Angela Merkel looks less and less like a pragmatist, and more and more like a fool every day. 

 

Putin thinks he wins because he's the only guy on the planet that believes in something besides peace and profits.  Like any good fascist, he's just enough of a left win nutcase to hate capitalism and indiviualism, and just enough of a right wing nutcase to believe in he can slaughter his way back in time to a past Russia where everything was traditional and awesome.

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3 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

......... back in time to a past Russia where everything was traditional and awesome.

 

Which it never was.

They wasted an entire continent for 45 years, and the waste continues.

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3 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

The EU Parliament just voted for a total fossil fuel embargo of Russia.  I have no idea if it's binding (leaning strongly towards no), but that's quite the 180 from 8 weeks ago.

 

Angela Merkel looks less and less like a pragmatist, and more and more like a fool every day. 

 

Putin thinks he wins because he's the only guy on the planet that believes in something besides peace and profits.  Like any good fascist, he's just enough of a left win nutcase to hate capitalism and indiviualism, and just enough of a right wing nutcase to believe in he can slaughter his way back in time to a past Russia where everything was traditional and awesome.

 

Yup.  Shoulda listened back in 2018...

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Another day, another war crime. Bombing a train station crowded with people. Putin is the worst international criminal right now by far. 

17 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

My base assumption when assessing unverifiable "information" originating with intelligence agencies wherever and whomever they work for is they are lying.  And why wouldn't they?  Lying is a basic skill requirement defined in the job description.       

You do believe Russia invaded Ukraine, right? 

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Fun fact. The overwhelming majority of the votes against the EU embargo of Russia came from Communist and Fascist parties.  

 

Don't you just love it when Tankies and Brownshirts get together to declare their hatred of liberty?  But hey, if anything will get them into bed together, it's the idea that Might Makes Right.

 

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3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Another day, another war crime. Bombing a train station crowded with people. Putin is the worst international criminal right now by far. 

You do believe Russia invaded Ukraine, right? 

51 former officials inside the US intelligence community signed a letter expressing their conclusion the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian dis-information campaign. Even the NYT and WaPo have agreed it is authentic.  Do you think the former intelligence officials are lying or incompetent?

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

51 former officials inside the US intelligence community signed a letter expressing their conclusion the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian dis-information campaign. Even the NYT and WaPo have agreed it is authentic.  Do you think the former intelligence officials are lying or incompetent?

 

You won't get an answer.  Just like he still hasn't answered whether he'd rather have Trump or Putin as President.

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1 hour ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Fun fact. The overwhelming majority of the votes against the EU embargo of Russia came from Communist and Fascist parties.  

 

Don't you just love it when Tankies and Brownshirts get together to declare their hatred of liberty?  But hey, if anything will get them into bed together, it's the idea that Might Makes Right.

 

When I see Omar and MGT agree on something it validates whatever is the opposite opinion. 

 

Even if they both have wildly divergent reasons for their votes, they are both absolute idiots.

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

51 former officials inside the US intelligence community signed a letter expressing their conclusion the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian dis-information campaign. Even the NYT and WaPo have agreed it is authentic.  Do you think the former intelligence officials are lying or incompetent?

Link? 

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On 4/8/2022 at 12:27 PM, All_Pro_Bills said:

51 former officials inside the US intelligence community signed a letter expressing their conclusion the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian dis-information campaign. Even the NYT and WaPo have agreed it is authentic.  Do you think the former intelligence officials are lying or incompetent?

 

 

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