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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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8 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

So yeah you do. you think even in a great offensive, the No one on the winning side dies?

 

its all good. enjoy your gore porn.

Ya, I'm sure you are a great humanitarian 

 

 

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Russia loses ground: The Russian Ministry of Defense has acknowledged its forces pulled back from areas north of the embattled eastern city of Bakhmut, claiming they moved to more advantageous defensive positions. But it effectively confirms the loss of some kilometers of territory by Russian forces. The head of the private military group Wagner described the regrouping as “a non-tactical retreat," adding that the ministry needs to "stop lying immediately.” Altogether, this retreat accounts for the loss of five square kilometers (nearly two square miles) "today alone," he claimed.

Ukrainian forces advance: Ukrainian forces have been able to push the Russians back 2 kilometers (or about 1.2 miles) around the eastern city of Bakhmut over the past week, the country's deputy defense minister said Friday.

Wagner complaints continue: Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the Wagner group, on Friday invited Russia's defense minister to visit the embattled eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut to assess the situation there — the latest provocative statement by the Wagner chief on the Kremlin's war leadership. This comes in a string of ramped up complaints about his own mercenary fighters' battlefield setbacks, claims of lack of ammunition to take Bakhmut.

 

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-12-23/index.html

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Russia loses ground: The Russian Ministry of Defense has acknowledged its forces pulled back from areas north of the embattled eastern city of Bakhmut, claiming they moved to more advantageous defensive positions. But it effectively confirms the loss of some kilometers of territory by Russian forces. The head of the private military group Wagner described the regrouping as “a non-tactical retreat," adding that the ministry needs to "stop lying immediately.” Altogether, this retreat accounts for the loss of five square kilometers (nearly two square miles) "today alone," he claimed.

Ukrainian forces advance: Ukrainian forces have been able to push the Russians back 2 kilometers (or about 1.2 miles) around the eastern city of Bakhmut over the past week, the country's deputy defense minister said Friday.

Wagner complaints continue: Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the Wagner group, on Friday invited Russia's defense minister to visit the embattled eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut to assess the situation there — the latest provocative statement by the Wagner chief on the Kremlin's war leadership. This comes in a string of ramped up complaints about his own mercenary fighters' battlefield setbacks, claims of lack of ammunition to take Bakhmut.

 

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-12-23/index.html

Do they even provide daily death and injured counts as well?

 

It gets you going, eh.

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2 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Do they even provide daily death and injured counts as well?

 

It gets you going, eh.

Love seeing the good guys win! 

 

We can agree that Putin should just end this war, right? 

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16 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Love seeing the good guys win! 

 

We can agree that Putin should just end this war, right? 

I hope your mom doesn't walk in on you, that could be embarrassing.

 

you grasp in every battle, both sides suffer death and injuries?  But your cool with Ukrainians dying as long as Russians do in more numbers.

 

Its gore porn.  put it down.

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6 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

I hope your mom doesn't walk in on you, that could be embarrassing.

 

you grasp in every battle, both sides suffer death and injuries?  But your cool with Ukrainians dying as long as Russians do in more numbers.

 

Its gore porn.  put it down.

That's your replay? What a ###### you are 

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1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

And expected you went from trying to defend gore porn to trying to attack me.

 

do you search out non edited videos on reddit for the good stuff?

 

 

Well a re tard like you is easy to attack, so...

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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Well a re tard like you is easy to attack, so...

Did you just make an ableist slur?

 

its amazing how fast you become what you claim to hate. but then again, you seem to be consumed by hate.

 

it has a way of doing that.

 

 

 

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On the one hand, hurray! Russian propagandists are starting to wonder what they're fighting for, why they're fighting, and maybe peace is an option.

 

On the other hand, is it any coincidence that the nerdy looking know it all is the one asking the questions so the hostess can light him up? Because first and foremost this is propaganda...

 

I really enjoy watching Russia go through all the phases of locking itself into a forever war with no exit strategy.  This crap is like watching Fox or CNN circa 2005.

 

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Terrorism 

 

The Ukrainian capital Kyiv has been targeted by further Russian air attacks, described by one official as "exceptional in density".

Ukraine said all 18 missiles were shot down and footage showed air defences destroying targets over the city.

But Russia said its attack - which used drones and missiles - had hit all its targets.

Moscow has stepped up its air campaign in recent weeks, ahead of an expected Ukrainian offensive.

The air raid alert sounded at around 02:30 local time (23:30 GMT Monday) and was lifted two hours later in the eighth attack to hit the capital this month.

An unusually high number of loud explosions was heard in the city centre, as authorities told residents in online messages that air defence had been activated.

The head of Ukraine's armed forces, Valerii Zaluzhny, said Russia attacked Kyiv from the north, south and east and that 18 air, sea and land-based missiles had been used.

Serhiy Popko, head of the Ukrainian capital's military administration, described the barrage as being the "maximum number of attack missiles in the shortest period of time".

"According to preliminary information, the vast majority of enemy targets in the airspace of Kyiv were detected and destroyed," he added.

Gen Zaluzhny said that included nine Kalibr cruise missiles, which were launched from ships in the Black Sea, and three land-based missiles.

He added that Kyiv also destroyed six Kinzhal hypersonic missiles, which are capable of reaching speeds of more than 11,000kmh (7,000mph).

Russia has claimed in the past that these could not be taken out by any of the world's air defence systems.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65606385

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All we are saying. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

 

 

 

 

HMM: Putin and Zelensky ‘agree to meet African leaders to discuss peace plan.’

 

Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky have both agreed to separate meetings with a delegation of African heads of state to discuss a possible plan to end the war in Ukraine, according to South Africa’s president.

 

Cyril Ramaphosa spoke with his Russian and Ukrainian counterparts by phone over the weekend, a spokesperson for his office said. They agreed to host ‘an African leaders’ peace mission’ in Moscow and Kyiv respectively.

 

The leaders of Zambia, Senegal, Congo, Uganda and Egypt plan to join Mr Ramaphosa on the mission, the president said. He added that Mr Putin and Mr Zelensky gave him the go-ahead to ‘commence the preparations’.

 

No details were provided on the possible parameters of the talks. Mr Zelensky has previously said he would not consider a peace deal to end the 15-month war until Russian forces withdraw fully from Ukrainian territory.

 

UN secretary-general Antonio Guterres was briefed on the African delegation’s planned meetings and ‘welcomed the initiative’, Mr Ramaphosa said.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12090289/Putin-Zelensky-agree-meet-African-leaders-discuss-peace-plan.html

 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

All we are saying. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

 

 

 

 

HMM: Putin and Zelensky ‘agree to meet African leaders to discuss peace plan.’

 

Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky have both agreed to separate meetings with a delegation of African heads of state to discuss a possible plan to end the war in Ukraine, according to South Africa’s president.

 

Cyril Ramaphosa spoke with his Russian and Ukrainian counterparts by phone over the weekend, a spokesperson for his office said. They agreed to host ‘an African leaders’ peace mission’ in Moscow and Kyiv respectively.

 

The leaders of Zambia, Senegal, Congo, Uganda and Egypt plan to join Mr Ramaphosa on the mission, the president said. He added that Mr Putin and Mr Zelensky gave him the go-ahead to ‘commence the preparations’.

 

No details were provided on the possible parameters of the talks. Mr Zelensky has previously said he would not consider a peace deal to end the 15-month war until Russian forces withdraw fully from Ukrainian territory.

 

UN secretary-general Antonio Guterres was briefed on the African delegation’s planned meetings and ‘welcomed the initiative’, Mr Ramaphosa said.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12090289/Putin-Zelensky-agree-meet-African-leaders-discuss-peace-plan.html

 

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Wow, that's a strange set up. Russia is starting to feel the need to end this imperialistic disaster they launched 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

All we are saying. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

 

 

 

 

HMM: Putin and Zelensky ‘agree to meet African leaders to discuss peace plan.’

 

Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky have both agreed to separate meetings with a delegation of African heads of state to discuss a possible plan to end the war in Ukraine, according to South Africa’s president.

 

Cyril Ramaphosa spoke with his Russian and Ukrainian counterparts by phone over the weekend, a spokesperson for his office said. They agreed to host ‘an African leaders’ peace mission’ in Moscow and Kyiv respectively.

 

The leaders of Zambia, Senegal, Congo, Uganda and Egypt plan to join Mr Ramaphosa on the mission, the president said. He added that Mr Putin and Mr Zelensky gave him the go-ahead to ‘commence the preparations’.

 

No details were provided on the possible parameters of the talks. Mr Zelensky has previously said he would not consider a peace deal to end the 15-month war until Russian forces withdraw fully from Ukrainian territory.

 

UN secretary-general Antonio Guterres was briefed on the African delegation’s planned meetings and ‘welcomed the initiative’, Mr Ramaphosa said.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12090289/Putin-Zelensky-agree-meet-African-leaders-discuss-peace-plan.html

 

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That would be something. 

 

Hard to not notice this was pushed by countries with very little sway/alignment in the WEF, NATO arenas.

 

 

 

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22 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

All we are saying. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

 

 

 

 

HMM: Putin and Zelensky ‘agree to meet African leaders to discuss peace plan.’

 

Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky have both agreed to separate meetings with a delegation of African heads of state to discuss a possible plan to end the war in Ukraine, according to South Africa’s president.

 

Cyril Ramaphosa spoke with his Russian and Ukrainian counterparts by phone over the weekend, a spokesperson for his office said. They agreed to host ‘an African leaders’ peace mission’ in Moscow and Kyiv respectively.

 

The leaders of Zambia, Senegal, Congo, Uganda and Egypt plan to join Mr Ramaphosa on the mission, the president said. He added that Mr Putin and Mr Zelensky gave him the go-ahead to ‘commence the preparations’.

 

No details were provided on the possible parameters of the talks. Mr Zelensky has previously said he would not consider a peace deal to end the 15-month war until Russian forces withdraw fully from Ukrainian territory.

 

UN secretary-general Antonio Guterres was briefed on the African delegation’s planned meetings and ‘welcomed the initiative’, Mr Ramaphosa said.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12090289/Putin-Zelensky-agree-meet-African-leaders-discuss-peace-plan.html

 

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Best of luck to them! Hopefully they're all actually impartial mediators.

 

Though it was sorta funny watching China muddle around like it hadn't picked a side. Or pretend like they wouldn't benefit immensely from a decisive Russian victory. 

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Good old Patriots (and other system) doing their job. What a great system. 

From the Washington Post: 

 

Ukraine’s air force said it destroyed 29 of 30 missiles and four drones during the overnight strikes. 

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1 hour ago, Wacka said:

Tibs, got stock in Raytheon???

Nope, I buy stocks of freedom baby

 

I do own a nice little stock called TransDigm Group, though. Been a good stock over the years. Trump out of no where blasted the company in a tweet once, never figured out what that was about 

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39 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Nope, I buy stocks of freedom baby

 

I do own a nice little stock called TransDigm Group, though. Been a good stock over the years. Trump out of no where blasted the company in a tweet once, never figured out what that was about 

TRANSDIGM GROUP INC. HOWMET AEROSPACE INC. CHINA AVIONICS SYSTEMS CO.,LTD. is the entire name of that company.

 

Hard to go wrong with anything owned/controlled by Capital Group/Vanguard/Blackrock as they always seem to come out ahead. 

 

And they are in the military industrial sector.  so you kind of proved you have stock in war.

 

 

https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/TRANSDIGM-GROUP-INC-16156/company/

 

https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2022/03/transdigms-excess-profits-on-defense-contracts-reveal-costly-loopholes-in-the-law-scott-amey.html

 

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32 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

TRANSDIGM GROUP INC. HOWMET AEROSPACE INC. CHINA AVIONICS SYSTEMS CO.,LTD. is the entire name of that company.

 

Hard to go wrong with anything owned/controlled by Capital Group/Vanguard/Blackrock as they always seem to come out ahead. 

 

And they are in the military industrial sector.  so you kind of proved you have stock in war.

 

 

https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/TRANSDIGM-GROUP-INC-16156/company/

 

https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2022/03/transdigms-excess-profits-on-defense-contracts-reveal-costly-loopholes-in-the-law-scott-amey.html

 

You proved it! 

 

Now stick it up your rear end! 

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45 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You proved it! 

 

Now stick it up your rear end! 

 you posted the freedom stock you own.  LOL

 

At least now it's understood why you cheerlead for carnage so often.

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

are you crying?  you posted the freedom stock you own.  LOL

 

At least now it's understood why you cheerlead for carnage so often.

 

 

 

 

No, you POS, just cheering for freedom

 

You are complaining we are defending freedom, what a piece of garbage you are. 

 

Go move to Russia and live under a system you favor 

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5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No, you POS, just cheering for freedom

 

You are complaining we are defending freedom, what a piece of garbage you are. 

 

Go move to Russia and live under a system you favor 

Relax Tibs

He simply has a different opinion about how we choose to defend freedom. That’s all.

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1 hour ago, Chris farley said:

TRANSDIGM GROUP INC. HOWMET AEROSPACE INC. CHINA AVIONICS SYSTEMS CO.,LTD. is the entire name of that company.

 

Hard to go wrong with anything owned/controlled by Capital Group/Vanguard/Blackrock as they always seem to come out ahead. 

 

And they are in the military industrial sector.  so you kind of proved you have stock in war.

 

 

https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/TRANSDIGM-GROUP-INC-16156/company/

 

https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2022/03/transdigms-excess-profits-on-defense-contracts-reveal-costly-loopholes-in-the-law-scott-amey.html

 

OOPS!!

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36 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Relax Tibs

He simply has a different opinion about how we choose to defend freedom. That’s all.

No, he's being a d-bag 

15 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

OOPS!!

For owning a stock? Ok 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Nope, I buy stocks of freedom baby

 

So Raytheon isn't a "stock of freedom?'

 

As a guy who used to teach Sidewinder, and surface to air systems that Patriot was based on, I had very frequent dealings with that company as they used to produce the graphics used in my lecture.

 

They build Patriot, Sidewinder and Amraam.

 

Hard to find a company that US air assets would consider more a contributor to our defense and "freedom."

 

 

 

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