Coach Tuesday Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Coach gave Edmunds a game ball?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said: Couldn't disagree more. There is also a reason why the bills picked up his 5th year and didn't extend him. Cause they aren't sure about him yet. I don't mean to be negative as the defence was outstanding. But if there was one player who I thought struggled it was Edmunds I totally agree with you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mango said: I noticed it, and I love it. I think we are better in 3 LB sets. Since I posted my question, read that Edmunds was out of game towards end so that was likely why Klein was playing. Read Edmunds was getting an IV on sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 A couple things I think are really holding the offense back - 1. Last week and this there was no variation in the snap count. This week it's understandable on the road, but right now we're making it too easy on the ooposing D line. 2. Josh is staring down receivers over and over. I'm not sure why he's forgotten how to look guys off, but he needs to remember it quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: No way, the 5th year options are pretty big money. They are pretty sold on him. Defense feasted today...i dont see the poor play from edmunds. He played solid last week. Ok Mrs Edmund whatever you say 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: The one thing I couldn't figure out, Klein played a fair amount today. Was someone else not playing or just a case or rotating much more because of the heat. Last week he had zero snaps. Two reasons - they adjusted their defense in 2nd half and Tremaine Edmunds was cramping up and was not only player having this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Simon said: I'm still not convinced he's as physically talented as everybody keeps saying. He can't play low, he doesn't change directions well and his hand/eye coordination leaves just a bit to be desired. His length is great dropping into a cover2, but it's almost like it's the only thing he excels at and that's a simple straight drop into a middle third. And he can't catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Simon said: I'm still not convinced he's as physically talented as everybody keeps saying. He can't play low, he doesn't change directions well and his hand/eye coordination leaves just a bit to be desired. His length is great dropping into a cover2, but it's almost like it's the only thing he excels at and that's a simple straight drop into a middle third. right and its not enough to be "long" and drop back. He consistently doesn't make plays against the pass. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: No way, the 5th year options are pretty big money. They are pretty sold on him. Defense feasted today...i dont see the poor play from edmunds. He played solid last week. Look at the history of Beane.. After 3rd year Bills extended: Tre, Dawkins, Josh. The core guys. It 100 percent reflects they aren't sure about Edmunds yet by not extending him after year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Coach gave Edmunds a game ball?? you kiddin me? Milano deserved it by far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Beast said: Tremaine Edmunds is a stud. End if story. I see McDermott gave Edmunds a game ball. Some of you need to know what you are watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Two reasons - they adjusted their defense in 2nd half and Tremaine Edmunds was cramping up and was not only player having this issue. Yeah read about Edmunds after I posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, Beast said: I see McDermott gave Edmunds a game ball. Some of you need to know what you are watching. Tell me a play today where Edmunds blew up something and made an impact play? I can name about 4-5 plays for Milano. 3-5 For AJ 2-4 For Groot. I can keep going 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, BillsFan130 said: Tell me a play today where Edmunds blew up something and made an impact play? I can name about 4-5 plays for Milano. 3-5 For AJ 2-4 For Groot. I can keep going There was one key stop where he got blocked backwards for 15 yards on 3rd/17 and managed to land on his back in front of the ballcarrier's feet to force them into 4th/1. It changed the whole complexion of the game in the early going. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 They have been rushing Edmunds much more lately and he has been completely ineffective doing that. It's not lookin like a bright future for the dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 A lot of you guys are talking crazy about Edmunds. He had a solid game, you don't need flash plays all over the field to be a very important part of the defense. Milano can do all the stuff he does because Edmunds is on the field providing the skill set he has. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Tell me a play today where Edmunds blew up something and made an impact play? I can name about 4-5 plays for Milano. 3-5 For AJ 2-4 For Groot. I can keep going He took away the whole damned middle of the field. Again, know what you are watching. Just like when you never saw Deion Sanders make a play didn't mean he wasn't greatly effecting the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, Simon said: I'm still not convinced he's as physically talented as everybody keeps saying. He can't play low, he doesn't change directions well and his hand/eye coordination leaves just a bit to be desired. His length is great dropping into a cover2, but it's almost like it's the only thing he excels at and that's a simple straight drop into a middle third. I agree completely.........it's almost like maybe his skillset might have been better developed at another position.🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: A lot of you guys are talking crazy about Edmunds. He had a solid game, you don't need flash plays all over the field to be a very important part of the defense. Milano can do all the stuff he does because Edmunds is on the field providing the skill set he has. i saw lots of flash plays from just about everyone on the D though. even klein had some plays, obviously milano was all over the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, Beast said: He took away the whole damned middle of the field. The middle of the field was about the only place Miami was able to make any hay in the first half. Then with Edmunds out in the 2nd half, even that was suddenly unavailable to them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Eh it was a bad throw, behind the intended receiver. Usually it wouldn't have been a pick but it was still a bad throw. And he had a throw intended for McKenzie that probably should have been picked because he lofted it instead of rifling it. Allen has not been his usual self the past two weeks. He is making inaccurate throws that last year he was hitting. It isn't time to hit the panic button yet, and I agree the pass protection is contributing to the regression in his mechanics. If he gets out of his funk we could be unstoppable. The interception was a throw he shouldn't have tried. That slant was double covered and you have to have a better post-snap read than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Just now, Simon said: The middle of the field was about the only place Miami was able to make any hay in the first half. Then with Edmunds out in the 2nd half, even that was suddenly unavailable to them. OK, you win. You clearly know what Sean McDermott doesn't. I'll leave this topic alone before I get banned. Edited September 19, 2021 by Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Beast said: He took away the whole damned middle of the field. Again, know what you are watching. Just like when you never saw Deion Sanders make a play didn't mean he wasn't greatly effecting the offense. Did he though?.. I remember many times him just standing there and getting absolutely blowing off the ball on quick hitters by Miami. The D obviously didn't miss a beat when he left the game in the 2nd half🤷♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Simon said: Then with Edmunds out in the 2nd half, even that was suddenly unavailable to them. he was out in the second half? not sarcasm i really didnt know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: A lot of you guys are talking crazy about Edmunds. He had a solid game, you don't need flash plays all over the field to be a very important part of the defense. Milano can do all the stuff he does because Edmunds is on the field providing the skill set he has. So Lotulelei is tying up two blockers so that Edmunds can...........tie up another 2 blockers(?)..........so that Milano can be free to make all of the plays? Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: So Lotulelei is tying up two blockers so that Edmunds can...........tie up another 2 blockers(?)..........so that Milano can be free to make all of the plays? Makes sense. The unseen hand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said: he was out in the second half? not sarcasm i really didnt know that Yeah, he was cramping at halftime and stayed in the locker room for an IV. He may have made it out to the sideline eventually but I don't think he ever stepped on the field in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/23/pro-football-focus-tremaine-edmunds-hype-linebacker-rankings-matt-milano/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Simon said: There was one key stop where he got blocked backwards for 15 yards on 3rd/17 and managed to land on his back in front of the ballcarrier's feet to force them into 4th/1. It changed the whole complexion of the game in the early going. it just goes to show, sometimes it’s all about where you land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Simon said: He may have made it out to the sideline eventually but I don't think he ever stepped on the field in the second half. Come to think of it dodson was out there a bunch in the second half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said: he was out in the second half? not sarcasm i really didnt know that Nobody notices when he's out. Partly because he's usually out there and just part of the background scenery of the Bills defense because he doesn't make plays...........and partly because when other players have had to step in for him they've done no worse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: So Lotulelei is tying up two blockers so that Edmunds can...........tie up another 2 blockers(?)..........so that Milano can be free to make all of the plays? Makes sense. Yeah, didn't say anything about Edmunds eating up blockers, but he does eat up a TON of space in the throwing lanes which forces QB hesitation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said: Come to think of it dodson was out there a bunch in the second half really would like to see what the D looks like with dodson and milano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I agree completely.........it's almost like maybe his skillset might have been better developed at another position.🤔 But where? He doesn't rush the passer particularly well, he's rarely physical enough to hold a point and the second somebody gets their hands on him he's done. Maybe you hide him inside in a 3-4 and leave him on the field for clear passing downs, but he's almost too specialized to be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: Yeah, didn't say anything about Edmunds eating up blockers, but he does eat up a TON of space in the throwing lanes which forces QB hesitation. just such a mysterious / unprovable "stat" to hang onto to keep defending him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, balln said: just such a mysterious / unprovable "stat" to hang onto to keep defending him Josh Allen has said it himself about Tremaine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said: Come to think of it dodson was out there a bunch in the second half I think Dodson was probably getting snaps on passing downs in Klein's place. He may have also been running for Milano when the game was already in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: The one thing I couldn't figure out, Klein played a fair amount today. Was someone else not playing or just a case or rotating much more because of the heat. Last week he had zero snaps. Edmunds did not play the entire 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: Josh Allen has said it himself about Tremaine. so theres one side that sees that he's great and one side disagrees. as an agnostic of this situation i would say i see him miss a lot of plays like the blatant tackle he missed today and that pick he comically fumbled last week. and then folks claim he's doing something in the middle that maybe i dont see and i mean that. what am i missing for defenders of Tre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 i think his only impact plays a safety /sack against CLE a 4th down stuff against SF last year an INT here and there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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