It's Time to Mandate Vaccines

[T master]

7 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

I'm trying but I cannot decipher this post. 

 

It's a comparison of the numbers for the virus and each individual link and the numbers in those what i was trying to say is if the gov't truly cared about it's people and their health they would stop distributing opioids like candy and stop cigarettes or limit them much more .

 

And then the last link tells you a lot more about what is more important along with the round up link money is what keeps them on the market if and the amount that is or could be back door money to politicians and lets say the EPA totally changes what stays and goes .

 

They want us to think they really give a S**T about the people when in reality they don't !! It's just some see it and others choose not to ...

Edited September 20, 2021 by T master

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

 

You are a buffoon also.

 

 

New Hampshire Among Half Of U.S. States That Saw More Deaths Than Births In 2020

 

 

The latest federal data shows a steep increase in deaths across the United States last year, attributed in part to COVID-19.

 

According to provisional data from the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, the U.S. saw eighteen percent more deaths in 2020 than in 2019.

 

Twenty states saw “natural decrease” – more deaths than births in the year – for the first time in about a century. New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, and West Virginia saw natural decrease for the second year in a row.

 

https://www.concordmonitor.com/New-Hampshire-Among-Half-Of-U-S-States-That-Saw-More-Deaths-Than-Births-In-2020-40397081

 

 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2021 by B-Man

[T master]

On 9/19/2021 at 3:56 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

‘This is not science’: Ted Cruz and Thomas Massie comment on the viral video showing a daycare worker trying to mask a child

 

 

 

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/09/19/this-is-not-science-ted-cruz-and-thomas-massie-comment-on-the-viral-video-showing-a-daycare-worker-trying-to-mask-a-child/

 

My wife owns a day care and parenting today more so than not is a huge joke so by this little one not wanting to do something it doesn't surprise me in the least mommy probably puts in a barney movie and sits on her a** looking at there pone while Jr. does what ever he wants .

 

Then if by some chance mommy has to look up because he's doing something he shouldn't she probably tells him to stop it 5 or 6 times before she has to actually get up and give him a treat so she can go back to looking at FB or Tik Tok ...

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, T master said:

 

My wife owns a day care and parenting today more so than not is a huge joke so by this little one not wanting to do something it doesn't surprise me in the least mommy probably puts in a barney movie and sits on her a** looking at there pone while Jr. does what ever he wants .

 

Then if by some chance mommy has to look up because he's doing something he shouldn't she probably tells him to stop it 5 or 6 times before she has to actually get up and give him a treat so she can go back to looking at FB or Tik Tok ...

I'm going to suggest you let your wife run the daycare. You appear to be just a tad out of control.

[JaCrispy]

 

[Big Blitz]

Dupes.  Covidiot dupes.  

 

 

 

 

"The Federal Government won't be mandating vaccines."

 

 

"Also, corporations and the public sector will mandate them, in order for you to maintain employment and anything where there might be vaccinated people around.......small detail."

 

 

 

---Democrats still scared of the super flu that's 99.9% survivable without the vaccine, but really this b.s. is a push for their inner need for conformity and obedience to the State at the expense of liberty they actually don't care for.  

[B-Man]

 

 

Is the Coronavirus Stronger Than White Guilt? We’re about to find out:

 

Presto !        In the blink of an eye, this story just magically transformed from “Stupid Anti-Vax Texans Literally Punch Science in the Face” to “Black Women in NYC Restaurant Latest Victims of Racial Profiling.” 

 

Remember that Starbucks incident? Remember how the whole company shut down for an entire afternoon to do “anti-racial bias” training?)

 

And if those dueling narratives aren’t confusing enough for the average liberal mind, it gets even better: The hostess is Asian. So, here’s yet another victim of the anti-Asian violence we’ve been hearing about for the past 18 months. #StopAsianHate, anyone?

 

Anyone?........................................................... Hello?

 

 

No, that’s not the narrative this time. Which is what this is all about: narratives, not facts.

 

 

Earlier: “Now in NYC you’ve got a vaccination-passport requirement that disproportionately affects black people, who are much less likely to get vaccinated than whites and Asians, and you’re surprised that the response is violent?

 

Once you teach people that it’s okay to be violent if they feel mistreated, you don’t get to choose when they feel mistreated.”

 

 

https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/is-the-coronavirus-stronger-than

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Is the Coronavirus Stronger Than White Guilt? We’re about to find out:

 

Presto !        In the blink of an eye, this story just magically transformed from “Stupid Anti-Vax Texans Literally Punch Science in the Face” to “Black Women in NYC Restaurant Latest Victims of Racial Profiling.” 

 

Remember that Starbucks incident? Remember how the whole company shut down for an entire afternoon to do “anti-racial bias” training?)

 

And if those dueling narratives aren’t confusing enough for the average liberal mind, it gets even better: The hostess is Asian. So, here’s yet another victim of the anti-Asian violence we’ve been hearing about for the past 18 months. #StopAsianHate, anyone?

 

Anyone?........................................................... Hello?

 

 

No, that’s not the narrative this time. Which is what this is all about: narratives, not facts.

 

 

Earlier: “Now in NYC you’ve got a vaccination-passport requirement that disproportionately affects black people, who are much less likely to get vaccinated than whites and Asians, and you’re surprised that the response is violent?

 

Once you teach people that it’s okay to be violent if they feel mistreated, you don’t get to choose when they feel mistreated.”

 

 

https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/is-the-coronavirus-stronger-than

 

 

 

Narrative control.   That's all the legacy media is now.  For Democrats.

 

Social media.....even worse.  

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Is the Coronavirus Stronger Than White Guilt? We’re about to find out:

 

Presto !        In the blink of an eye, this story just magically transformed from “Stupid Anti-Vax Texans Literally Punch Science in the Face” to “Black Women in NYC Restaurant Latest Victims of Racial Profiling.” 

 

Remember that Starbucks incident? Remember how the whole company shut down for an entire afternoon to do “anti-racial bias” training?)

 

And if those dueling narratives aren’t confusing enough for the average liberal mind, it gets even better: The hostess is Asian. So, here’s yet another victim of the anti-Asian violence we’ve been hearing about for the past 18 months. #StopAsianHate, anyone?

 

Anyone?........................................................... Hello?

 

 

No, that’s not the narrative this time. Which is what this is all about: narratives, not facts.

 

 

Earlier: “Now in NYC you’ve got a vaccination-passport requirement that disproportionately affects black people, who are much less likely to get vaccinated than whites and Asians, and you’re surprised that the response is violent?

 

Once you teach people that it’s okay to be violent if they feel mistreated, you don’t get to choose when they feel mistreated.”

 

 

https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/is-the-coronavirus-stronger-than

 

The article had the video of the Honorable Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her "Tax the Rich" dress in the dressing room. All of the hired hands (schmucks) were wearing masks but the Honorable Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was not. Talk  about rich ...

Edited September 21, 2021 by reddogblitz

[T master]

12 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

I'm going to suggest you let your wife run the daycare. You appear to be just a tad out of control.

 

When a kid stands there after you tell them to do something and in total defiance they look directly at you and piss their pants no bro i don't think i'm a tad out of control yes i am old school and if that was my kid i would bust their ass as they need it .

 

Or they go into the bath room and piss all over the bath room you tell me . They sit them in time out because that's all they are allowed to do but sorry that's to me deserve the kid to get their ass busted .

 

And that same kid went on to go to kindergarten and kick one young kid in the nuts and then pulled a fire alarm and Mommy in true form said "well if there was a fire alarm on that side of the hall why didn't you walk them on the other side" That is the parents of today empty the entire school call the fire department and little johnny gets to go home & has a toy taken away that really shows that there are consequences to your actions !

 

Then every body wonders why these kids wind up shooting others and become degenerates go figure but it's people like me that believe in discipline that are a "Tad out of control" have fun with that bro ! 

 

You are right though it is a good thing the wife runs it because the parents would not like me even a little bit because i call them the way i see them if the kid is a brat they are a brat ! And truth be told it's the parents that needs a the wake up call no the kid !!

 

It sounds like you are either a parent or grand parent that has forgotten that certain actions have consequences and that the punishment should fit the crime .

 

I take it your a time out or a take a toy away guy just asking .?

[Sundancer]

I interrupt your conspiracy chat to share actual data. 

 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

7 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

The article had the video of the Honorable Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her "Tax the Rich" dress in the dressing room. All of the hired hands (schmucks) were wearing masks but the Honorable Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was not. Talk  about rich ...

Masks are for the peasants and the servant class.  Nobles and royalty need not cover their faces.  Wear you mask and bow accordingly when your "superiors" enter the room.

The gut wrenching laughter thing about AOC's stunt.  Her dress designer has outstanding warrants for, wait for it.. tax evasion.  Her company has been hit with 15 tax warrants since 2015.  Two phonies come together for their common cause of hypocrisy.  Total douche. 

Edited September 21, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Masks are for the peasants and the servant class.  Nobles and royalty need not cover their faces.  Wear you mask and bow accordingly when your "superiors" enter the room.

The gut wrenching laughter thing about AOC's stunt.  Her dress designer has outstanding warrants for, wait for it.. tax evasion.  Her company has been hit with 15 tax warrants since 2015.  Two phonies come together for their common cause of hypocrisy.  Total douche. 

Yep…

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10011495/LA-County-health-department-Emmys-exempt-mask-requirements-insists-award-COVID-safe.html

 

still shocking the Democrat proletariat doesn’t mind. Maybe it’s just part of their supremacists Thinking. They somehow feel they too are elites by association? 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[BillStime]

On 9/8/2021 at 11:23 AM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Or voter ID 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

13 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

 

Lol wut?  My IQ just dropped to that of a fish stick reading this nonsense.   

 

 

I don't know who is making the Unconstitutional claim - I'm sure employees will have their day in court.  

 

But I will make the Unnecessary claim.

 

You told us Vax Passports and Mandates for them won't happen - Biden said that and you told us that back in the Spring of 2020.  Called it right wing fear mongering.  Biden sure has lied about a lot of things.   

 

 

Well we were right that you idiots would be good with going down the road you claimed we wouldn't go down, thus you've lost all credibility, trust, and without question sanity.  I miss the just flatten the curve days.  

 

What other road we wanna head down that you'll say is just right wing fear mongering?

 

 

 

Conformity.  The DNA I wish these vaccines actually could alter in leftists that program them to desire more and more control.  That's literally all this is about.  And a political fight that the left thinks caving in to by stopping the lunacy of mask and vaccine mandates will somehow signify an "L."

 

There is no scenario when that is the case that this pandemic ends.  It will just constantly mutate.  

[BillStime]

Best response:

 

👆💯%

[BillStime]

So incredibly sad and unnecessary... once again, the "pro life" party of death killed her.

 

Kentucky bride-to-be who was concerned about COVID vaccine dies of virus at age 29

 

“Misinformation killed her,” Wendell’s cousin, Maria Vibandor Hayes, said on Facebook. “We are so heartbroken. It didn’t have to end this way.”

 

A month before her wedding.

 

😢

[BillStime]

On 9/21/2021 at 9:16 AM, All_Pro_Bills said:

Masks are for the peasants and the servant class.  Nobles and royalty need not cover their faces.  Wear you mask and bow accordingly when your "superiors" enter the room.

The gut wrenching laughter thing about AOC's stunt.  Her dress designer has outstanding warrants for, wait for it.. tax evasion.  Her company has been hit with 15 tax warrants since 2015.  Two phonies come together for their common cause of hypocrisy.  Total douche. 

This you?

 

 

[Westside]

14 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Lol wut?  My IQ just dropped to that of a fish stick reading this nonsense.   

 

 

I don't know who is making the Unconstitutional claim - I'm sure employees will have their day in court.  

 

But I will make the Unnecessary claim.

 

You told us Vax Passports and Mandates for them won't happen - Biden said that and you told us that back in the Spring of 2020.  Called it right wing fear mongering.  Biden sure has lied about a lot of things.   

 

 

Well we were right that you idiots would be good with going down the road you claimed we wouldn't go down, thus you've lost all credibility, trust, and without question sanity.  I miss the just flatten the curve days.  

 

What other road we wanna head down that you'll say is just right wing fear mongering?

 

 

 

Conformity.  The DNA I wish these vaccines actually could alter in leftists that program them to desire more and more control.  That's literally all this is about.  And a political fight that the left thinks caving in to by stopping the lunacy of mask and vaccine mandates will somehow signify an "L."

 

There is no scenario when that is the case that this pandemic ends.  It will just constantly mutate.  

You have to remember who you’re dealing with. The enemy(yes they are the enemy of freedom) has no qualms about lying. Even when caught, they have msm to back them up. They have no moral fiber, no sense of fairness. They want to squash any dissent or opposing points of view. 
Then you have the lemmings on here who some how think they will become part of the elites and rewarded for their loyalty and doing the dirty work for them. But of course, once they have outlived there usefulness, they will be discarded like trash. 

[Big Blitz]

On 9/20/2021 at 8:38 PM, JaCrispy said:

 

 

 

 

 

"No one fills out the VAERS report it takes a half hour to fill out the dam thing."

 

"The vaccine is full of s***."

 

---Doctors and Nurses at an HHS hospital 

 

 

Undercover video from the FDA coming today.  

 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Bidens_basement said:

You have to remember who you’re dealing with. The enemy(yes they are the enemy of freedom) has no qualms about lying. Even when caught, they have msm to back them up. They have no moral fiber, no sense of fairness. They want to squash any dissent or opposing points of view. 
Then you have the lemmings on here who some how think they will become part of the elites and rewarded for their loyalty and doing the dirty work for them. But of course, once they have outlived there usefulness, they will be discarded like trash. 

Oh my.  
 

 

LMAO

[JaCrispy]

12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

 

"No one fills out the VAERS report it takes a half hour to fill out the dam thing."

 

"The vaccine is full of s***."

 

---Doctors and Nurses at an HHS hospital 

 

 

Undercover video from the FDA coming today.  

 

I am pro vaccine, but you can’t deny, there’s a lot of shady things going on by Fauci and the federal government..

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Oh my.  
 

 

LMAO

This is excellent...and I believe this exists on both sides...everyone wants their views reinforced...that’s why a real truth seeker will criticize his own views to keep himself honest...

[plenzmd1]

And on cue in a few days we will see shock pieces of people being lined up in the ER cause of Covid..with no mention of staff shortage due to vaccine mandate. Hope all yall who are all for  vaccine mandates enjoy making sick people wait for medical care.

 

I mean these folks were hero's 6 months ago, been working the the hospital for 18 months helping sick people...lets fire em!

 

Freaking idiots

 

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/ecmc-to-restrict-new-patient-admissions-due-to-staff-vaccine-mandate/article_bd4abfee-1bbd-11ec-85ca-8f53cbf8af1f.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

[Big Blitz]

 

 

[Big Blitz]

The Tampa Bay Bucs are 100% vaccinated.

 

Antonio Brown won't be playing this weekend because he has Covid.  He is "fully vaccinated."

 

 

 

This is so stupid.  So freaking stupid the human race should be embarrassed 

[SirusB]

10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

The Tampa Bay Bucs are 100% vaccinated.

 

Antonio Brown won't be playing this weekend because he has Covid.  He is "fully vaccinated."

 

 

 

This is so stupid.  So freaking stupid the human race should be embarrassed 

Yet another one of those 'super duper rare breakthrough infections'. But don't fret, as we all know, if he hadn't been fully vaccinated, he'd be in an ICU right now, begging for 'the jab', unconscious, while on a respirator. "I'm sorry AB, it's too late for that now..."  *Shakes Pfizer pom-poms*

[Sundancer]

6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

The Tampa Bay Bucs are 100% vaccinated.

 

Antonio Brown won't be playing this weekend because he has Covid.  He is "fully vaccinated."

 

 

 

This is so stupid.  So freaking stupid the human race should be embarrassed 

 

You could not explain why. 

[oldmanfan]

9 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

And on cue in a few days we will see shock pieces of people being lined up in the ER cause of Covid..with no mention of staff shortage due to vaccine mandate. Hope all yall who are all for  vaccine mandates enjoy making sick people wait for medical care.

 

I mean these folks were hero's 6 months ago, been working the the hospital for 18 months helping sick people...lets fire em!

 

Freaking idiots

 

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/ecmc-to-restrict-new-patient-admissions-due-to-staff-vaccine-mandate/article_bd4abfee-1bbd-11ec-85ca-8f53cbf8af1f.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

Such BS.  The people responsible are those abandoning their patients because they refuse to take an approved vaccine that has shown to be very effective.  Those on the front line have done an incredible job, and the vast majority of those who show responsibility and get vaccinated to protect themselves and their patients will continue to do so.

[Orlando Tim]

17 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Such BS.  The people responsible are those abandoning their patients because they refuse to take an approved vaccine that has shown to be very effective.  Those on the front line have done an incredible job, and the vast majority of those who show responsibility and get vaccinated to protect themselves and their patients will continue to do so.

Your blaming people for not wanting to do a job when one of the conditions of the job changes is ridiculous. It is especially absurd considering how many studies show natural infection and response will give you at least equal protection. But keep pretending the problem is their not bending to your will, not your one size fits all solution when multiple solutions exist.

[oldmanfan]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Your blaming people for not wanting to do a job when one of the conditions of the job changes is ridiculous. It is especially absurd considering how many studies show natural infection and response will give you at least equal protection. But keep pretending the problem is their not bending to your will, not your one size fits all solution when multiple solutions exist.

I would bet these same employees have to get flu vaccines.  This is no different, actually more important since Covid is more lethal.  Health care workers have an obligation to protect their patients. 
 

When you talk about natural immunity are you suggesting we just let patients get infected and hope they don’t die?  

[All_Pro_Bills]

29 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I would bet these same employees have to get flu vaccines.  This is no different, actually more important since Covid is more lethal.  Health care workers have an obligation to protect their patients. 
 

When you talk about natural immunity are you suggesting we just let patients get infected and hope they don’t die?  

I'd expect the infection rate of COVID "while hospitalized" is extremely low at this point of the pandemic.  But I don't have that stat handy and while it sounds like a potential patient safety issue before knowing the 1 chance in X risk I can't say for sure whether or not having un-vaccinated hospital workers is an actual patient safety issue.  The hospitals I'm familiar with have solid safety protocols in place for patients and workers along with visitors and there isn't any major concern about in-hospital transmission outbreaks.  What I'm not sure about in a lot of these conversations is if posters have a "zero" defect objective or goal when expressing their positions.  The one death is too many mentality. 

Generally here, the majority of hospital workers were the first group of people vaccinated and un-vaccinated workers infecting patients hasn't been an issue.  Nursing homes with elderly high risk patient populations and less process in place are another story.       

 

 

 

 

 

    

Edited September 23, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[oldmanfan]

9 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'd expect the infection rate of COVID "while hospitalized" is extremely low at this point of the pandemic.  But I don't have that stat handy and while it sounds like a potential patient safety issue before knowing the 1 chance in X risk I can't say for sure whether or not having un-vaccinated hospital workers is an actual patient safety issue.  The hospitals I'm familiar with have solid safety protocols in place for patients and workers along with visitors and there isn't any major concern about in-hospital transmission outbreaks.  What I'm not sure about in a lot of these conversations is if posters have a "zero" defect objective or goal when expressing their positions.  The one death is too many mentality. 

Generally here, the majority of hospital workers were the first group of people vaccinated and un-vaccinated workers infecting patients hasn't been an issue.  Nursing homes with elderly high risk patient populations and less process in place are another story.       

 

 

 

 

 

    

As health care workers our obligation is to keep our patients safe and healthy.  The best way to keep patients safe from Covid is to have everyone around them in the hospital vaccinated.  The science on that is incontrovertible.   

[Orlando Tim]

42 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I would bet these same employees have to get flu vaccines.  This is no different, actually more important since Covid is more lethal.  Health care workers have an obligation to protect their patients. 
 

When you talk about natural immunity are you suggesting we just let patients get infected and hope they don’t die?  

Requiring a worker who has natural immunity to get the shot is pointless and is counterproductive if it is causing people to quit. Both are just as likely to get Covid and pass it around, so why pretend that one is superior? 

[oldmanfan]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Requiring a worker who has natural immunity to get the shot is pointless and is counterproductive if it is causing people to quit. Both are just as likely to get Covid and pass it around, so why pretend that one is superior? 

I would be fine with testing employees to see who has antibodies, but it would also appear that your theory about previous infection being more protective may be in error.

 

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination — Kentucky, May–June 2021

Weekly / August 13, 2021 / 70(32);1081-1083

On August 6, 2021, this report was posted online as an MMWR Early Release.

Alyson M. Cavanaugh, DPT, PhD1,2; Kevin B. Spicer, MD, PhD2,3; Douglas Thoroughman, PhD2,4; Connor Glick, MS2; Kathleen Winter, PhD2,5 (View author affiliations)

 

Check this site out as well.  I'd be interested in your thoughts on how the statistics in the Israeli study might be flawed: https://echo360.org/media/df6327b6-1e39-401e-affb-5220eaedef8e/public

Edited September 23, 2021 by oldmanfan

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

I would be fine with testing employees to see who has antibodies, but it would also appear that your theory about previous infection being more protective may be in error.

 

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination — Kentucky, May–June 2021

Weekly / August 13, 2021 / 70(32);1081-1083

On August 6, 2021, this report was posted online as an MMWR Early Release.

Alyson M. Cavanaugh, DPT, PhD1,2; Kevin B. Spicer, MD, PhD2,3; Douglas Thoroughman, PhD2,4; Connor Glick, MS2; Kathleen Winter, PhD2,5 (View author affiliations)

 

Check this site out as well.  I'd be interested in your thoughts on how the statistics in the Israeli study might be flawed: https://echo360.org/media/df6327b6-1e39-401e-affb-5220eaedef8e/public

I Am not sure how they came to their conclusion and on the flip side we have this from Israel also being published the same week:

https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210830/Does-SARS-CoV-2-natural-infection-immunity-better-protect-against-the-Delta-variant-than-vaccination.aspx

 

As for the Kentucky study, it was not comparing natural vs vaccine but natural 6+ months ago and then getting vaccinated. Since the antibodies wane the proper comparison is those who were vaccinated 6 months ago and those who got it natural 6 months ago. Right now is the first true comparison we can make.

[oldmanfan]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I Am not sure how they came to their conclusion and on the flip side we have this from Israel also being published the same week:

https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210830/Does-SARS-CoV-2-natural-infection-immunity-better-protect-against-the-Delta-variant-than-vaccination.aspx

 

As for the Kentucky study, it was not comparing natural vs vaccine but natural 6+ months ago and then getting vaccinated. Since the antibodies wane the proper comparison is those who were vaccinated 6 months ago and those who got it natural 6 months ago. Right now is the first true comparison we can make.

The video I gave the link to expresses concerns about the methodology of the Israeli study.  

 

I am all for more testing, but it can't just be a positive vs. negative test.  It would have to be an antibody test with titers to show how much of an immune response has been generated.  More work needs to be done on that front.

[Orlando Tim]

4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

The video I gave the link to expresses concerns about the methodology of the Israeli study.  

 

I am all for more testing, but it can't just be a positive vs. negative test.  It would have to be an antibody test with titers to show how much of an immune response has been generated.  More work needs to be done on that front.

I don't believe natural immunity is 13 times better, but going back to my original point- why mandate a vaccine for someone who already has the antibodies? A 25 year old who had Covid 3 months ago is not going to as much as of threat as a 65 year old who got vaccinated in Feb. The govt making a one size fits all for this situation is the problem 

[Sundancer]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I don't believe natural immunity is 13 times better, but going back to my original point- why mandate a vaccine for someone who already has the antibodies? A 25 year old who had Covid 3 months ago is not going to as much as of threat as a 65 year old who got vaccinated in Feb. The govt making a one size fits all for this situation is the problem 

One size fits all doesn’t fit everyone. 
 

Are you the guy who said vaccines don’t work for most people after 6 months? Or is that one of the other bad info posters?