It's Time to Mandate Vaccines

[Big Blitz]

Over 2 full months of Delta (likely more) in the UK:

 

 

We should be celebrating and having covid is over parties

[SCBills]

18 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

So now we’re quoting anonymous posters on some forum who are trying to evade getting banned by doing cute things like writing [VX] to frustrate the anti-vax search algorithms. 

Imagine thinking you’re making a point against those that oppose medical tyranny by illustrating how people have to cryptic-post “to evade search algorithms”

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

LMAO - Don't you agree Trump could help make a difference and help encourage his followers to get vaccinated?  

 

And speaking of REPORTED....

 

 

Great source.

Well for Trump to have any influence with the un-vaccinated you have to believe the "Trump supporter" demographic is a major contributor to overall hesitancy.  But targeted commercials I've seen lately that feature Black and Hispanic "Doctors" speaking to their constituencies makes me think these demographics are the heavy hitters on the hesitancy front.   

 

Also, thank you for remembering my post on the insurrection topic.  I will give you a lot of credit here as you make a lot more effort at this stuff than I care to commit to here.  But my "reported" reference came from a named reporter speaking to a named Capitol Police official.  And to get an answer we just need to ask Rep. Pelosi and/or the House Sargent at Arms a few direct questions.  Like why they denied requests to call in the cavalry that day?  Questions that have important answers but which I expect will never be allowed to be asked in the 1/9 Committee forum. 

I'm not sure The Hill reporter would reveal their source but I'd be interested to hear who it was in the event I am wrong about the motivation and credibility of the Trump story. 

[oldmanfan]

Justice Barrett turned aside the emergency appeal to stop IU from mandating vaccines.  Good for her.

[Big Blitz]

This is absolutely ridiculous 

 

There is no getting a grip on covid.  That was April 2020 mindset when they were lying to you about aresolized spread Twitter fact checked false.   

 

You can only crush people by limiting their ability to meet as normal.  And delay the inevitable.  Which you see here.  

 

 

 

 

States that had a grip on COVID now seeing a crush of cases

 

The COVID-19 surge that is sending hospitalizations to all-time highs in parts of the South is also clobbering states like Hawaii and Oregon that were once seen as pandemic success stories.

 

After months in which they kept cases and hospitalizations at manageable levels, they are watching progress slip away as record numbers of patients overwhelm bone-tired health care workers.

 

Oregon - like Florida, Arkansas, Mississippi and Louisiana in recent days - has more people in the hospital with COVID-19 than at any other point in the pandemic. Hawaii is about to reach that mark, too.

 

https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-31590aa02655dc655f4fd06ff28b8e2b

 

 

 

All unvaccinated I'm sure.  

 

 

AND 

 

*Cases don't matter*

 

That was also a useless thing in April 2020.  

Edited August 13, 2021 by Big Blitz

[716er]

[dpberr]

2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Justice Barrett turned aside the emergency appeal to stop IU from mandating vaccines.  Good for her.

Eh. It was improperly filed. Even if properly filed, it was a terrible legal approach because they weren't asking the Supreme Court a question. That's a dumb lawyer.
 

They essentially wanted the US Supreme Court to issue a stay on the IU action while their case was on appeal. The Court can't do that. 
 

IMO all they had to do was make IU defend it's claim it's not a state institution which is an absurd claim, but all the detail they'd need. The Indiana legislature prohibited the state and state "organizations" from enacting mandates. 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, 716er said:

 

 

This was March 15.  

 

I should have bet you.

 

But proving you wrong (constantly) while amusing and that works only because of the ignorance I have to endure, but it is still depressing because I want to be wrong.  

 

But I'm not. 

 

 

March 15 (5 months ago we're not at years yet but soon - new variants coming)..... moving us forward alright.  Off a cliff.  Florida's fault tho.. 

Edited August 13, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Sundancer]

13 hours ago, BillStime said:

GQP: Let them die

 

 

CC: @leh-nerd skin-erd

 

 

in other news:

 

 

[Sundancer]

And an interesting preprint study on vaccines and mutations to watch. 

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.08.21261768v1

 

Findings The vaccination coverage rate is inversely correlated to the mutation frequency of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variants in 16 countries of 20 countries studied. We also discovered delta variants evolved differently under the positive selection pressure in the United Kingdom and India.

 

Meaning Full vaccination against COVID-19 is critical to suppress emergent mutations. Tajima’s D test score, with a threshold value as -2.50, can provide a promising tool to forecast new COVID-19 outbreaks.

[Tiberius]

Amy Barrett tells anti-vaxxers to F off! 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-justice-barrett-denies-appeal-from-indiana-university-students-fighting-covid-19-vaccine-mandate

 

Ha ha 

[Orlando Tim]

3 hours ago, Sundancer said:

And an interesting preprint study on vaccines and mutations to watch. 

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.08.21261768v1

 

Findings The vaccination coverage rate is inversely correlated to the mutation frequency of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variants in 16 countries of 20 countries studied. We also discovered delta variants evolved differently under the positive selection pressure in the United Kingdom and India.

 

Meaning Full vaccination against COVID-19 is critical to suppress emergent mutations. Tajima’s D test score, with a threshold value as -2.50, can provide a promising tool to forecast new COVID-19 outbreaks.

What kind of dummy do you  have to be to believe we can stop this thing from mutating? The vast majority of the world is not vaccinated and will not be for at least a decade, so if the mutations don't happen here they will happen elsewhere and then be brought here. Anyone who understands how virus work will understand that it will mutate differently for different populations. Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.

https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

What kind of dummy do you  have to be to believe we can stop this thing from mutating? The vast majority of the world is not vaccinated and will not be for at least a decade, so if the mutations don't happen here they will happen elsewhere and then be brought here. Anyone who understands how virus work will understand that it will mutate differently for different populations. Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.

https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients

 

 

Can I double thank you this post.

 

 

We are being played. 

 

We need to vaccinate to "prevent mutations" might be the lowest point in the history of civilization. 

[B-Man]

 

[Sundancer]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

What kind of dummy do you  have to be to believe we can stop this thing from mutating? The vast majority of the world is not vaccinated and will not be for at least a decade, so if the mutations don't happen here they will happen elsewhere and then be brought here. Anyone who understands how virus work will understand that it will mutate differently for different populations. Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.

https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients

“Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.”

Patently false statement. 

11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

We need to vaccinate to "prevent mutations" might be the lowest point in the history of civilization. 

Your mirror is actually the lowest. 

[SCBills]

They’re not vaccinating to stop this virus. 
 

We can’t stop mutations when the virus is worldwide… not just local to the United States.  
 

Vaccinations went from “miracle drug” to “less likely to catch covid, but you can still catch it and transmit it and some variants may become resistant, but you also need booster shots”.  
 

The real reason for promoting large scale vaccination…..

 

To get more public buy-in on Draconian measures like vaccine passports.   The more they get vaxxed, the more they make willing to say “that doesn’t affect me so it’s ok.”  
 

Don’t put it past our government to take an intrinsically good thing (vaccine availability) and turn it into a psy-op. 

[B-Man]

 

 

So, people , who are not sick at all, may be prohibited from interstate travel, without proof of a vaccine. 

 

 

 

APNews

 

 

 

Edited August 13, 2021 by B-Man

[Big Blitz]

37 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

So, people , who are not sick at all, may be prohibited from interstate travel, without proof of a vaccine. 

 

 

 

APNews

 

 

 

 

 

 

What a f ing disaster this administration and its voters are.  

[SCBills]

People will say “oh, that interstate travel thing won’t actually happen”…

 

Those people are either lying to you, or haven’t heard of The Overton Window.  
 

We were called conspiracy theorists last year for talking about vaccine passports… and now half the country just thinks it’s normal. 

[TSOL]

This country needs a divorce