LeGOATski Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It did stand for 40 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It did stand for 40 years. No matter. It should never collapse. Code in place, if abided by, would prevent it. The Miami construction industry is notorious for corruption. The latest terminal at their airport was held up twice as the contracting company refused to bribe the construction group. I have no idea what caused this, but I do know that the building industry in Miami is as corrupt as can be, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was found to not be to code. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 14 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Holy crap! How does that happen? Sinkhole of some sorts? That close to water, how is foundation supported? It held for 40 years. Has to be something way underground? Why I mentioned sinkhole? Is that possible? The Romans are not impressed 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Salt air, over time, can seriously weaken structural steel. That along with the foundation issues may have brought it down. The building inspection time periods seem to be totally inadequate given the climate and sub-soil situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Pete said: The Romans are not impressed Romans, Egyptians, Greeks and several other ancient civilizations were unbelievable experts at engineering. Roman concrete strengthens over time. https://www.zmescience.com/science/geology/roman-concrete-seawater-043432/ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I've read that there are still 99 people unaccounted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I've read that there are still 99 people unaccounted for. Unfortunately, it's 159 now. Surfside building collapse latest: 159 still unaccounted for as death toll rises (msn.com) Clearly the ground underneath the building was not stable, and looks like maybe there was a deep sink hole or something that gave away causing everything to move just enough for it to come crumbling down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I was watching an old episode of this season's Lego Masters (I am several episodes behind) and I see the next challenge will be doing 4' towers that they try and knock down via a simulated earthquake. My immediate thought was that Fox must be so relieved that the episode had already already aired - can you imagine broadcasting a show about knocking down Lego buildings in the aftermath of this tragedy in Florida? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Romans, Egyptians, Greeks and several other ancient civilizations were unbelievable experts at engineering. Roman concrete strengthens over time. https://www.zmescience.com/science/geology/roman-concrete-seawater-043432/ Just think... Will be living in the sea sooner than later with regard to climate change. This may come in handy! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, The Avenger said: I was watching an old episode of this season's Lego Masters (I am several episodes behind) and I see the next challenge will be doing 4' towers that they try and knock down via a simulated earthquake. My immediate thought was that Fox must be so relieved that the episode had already already aired - can you imagine broadcasting a show about knocking down Lego buildings in the aftermath of this tragedy in Florida? It would probably bring more views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Romans, Egyptians, Greeks and several other ancient civilizations were unbelievable experts at engineering. Roman concrete strengthens over time. https://www.zmescience.com/science/geology/roman-concrete-seawater-043432/ That's probably because they didn't award the contract to the cheapest bidder. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Romans, Egyptians, Greeks and several other ancient civilizations were unbelievable experts at engineering. Roman concrete strengthens over time. https://www.zmescience.com/science/geology/roman-concrete-seawater-043432/ Awesome article. Roman cement had calcium-aluminum-silicate-hydrate while modern Portland cement only has calcium-silicate-hydrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Awesome article. Roman cement had calcium-aluminum-silicate-hydrate while modern Portland cement only has calcium-silicate-hydrate. Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Doc said: That's probably because they didn't award the contract to the cheapest bidder. It only gets stronger when it is exposed to seawater. Great idea, let's build and live in the sea! 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It only gets stronger when it is exposed to seawater. Great idea, let's build and live in the sea! 😏 Well this condo was right by the beach... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, TBBills said: Well this condo was right by the beach... Yeah... But even the strongest concrete isn't escaping that hole it's been sinking in for 40 years... 🙃😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 hours ago, TBBills said: Well this condo was right by the beach... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 20 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Just think... Will be living in the sea sooner than later with regard to climate change. This may come in handy! 😉 Are you forgetting you don't believe in climate change? Since you argue against everything I can see how you'd lose track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) Engineer Warned of ‘Major Structural Damage’ at Florida Condo Complex A consultant in 2018 urged the managers to repair cracked columns and crumbling concrete. The work was finally about to get underway when the building collapsed. nytimes.com/2021/06/26/us/miami-building-collapse-investigation.html Yikes. Both the management board and original designer / engineer are in some real trouble here... Edited June 26, 2021 by Heitz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) High priced place to live and yet 2 years to even begin repairs... Now they are being sued by everyone that lived there and family of the deceased. Maybe when you get professionals telling you to do something immediately they won't wait a few years. Same thing happened with the bridges in this country until some of them collapsed. Edited June 26, 2021 by TBBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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