auburnbillsbacker Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Victory Formation said: And if Etienne does end up being a Christian McCafferry talent, do you pay a RB $16M/yr when it comes to their second contract? I want the Bills to win the Super Bowl. If he helped us win one I'd be fine with letting him walk in 4-5 seasons. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Never wanted him. Give me Rousseau and Boogie all day. Rousseau is going to surprise some, while Boogie will have an immediate impact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Personally, I believe that the "Bills want to trade up for ETN" smoke was real. I believe they tried. I believe ETN was the player they were targeting. Beane literally said that if a running back added something to the room that they didn't already have, they'd absolutely take him. He want on just a few sentences later to admit that something they lack in the room is "a home run hitter". He also explained that guys like CMC and Kamara are worth first round picks because they improve both the run and pass game. Now we hear that ETN is cross-training as a WR in Jacksonville. We'll never know for sure how serious the Bills' interest in ETN was, but it is my personal opinion that they were very interested. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Logic said: Personally, I believe that the "Bills want to trade up for ETN" smoke was real. I believe they tried. I believe ETN was the player they were targeting. Beane literally said that if a running back added something to the room that they didn't already have, they'd absolutely take him. He want on just a few sentences later to admit that something they lack in the room is "a home run hitter". He also explained that guys like CMC and Kamara are worth first round picks because they improve both the run and pass game. Now we hear that ETN is cross-training as a WR in Jacksonville. We'll never know for sure how serious the Bills' interest in ETN was, but it is my personal opinion that they were very interested. Again there is no way that Beane would tell everyone that the Bills were targeting ETN, who is the only running back he could have been talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) Agents get paid a lot of money to predict where their client is going. After Pittsburgh Buffalo was the next likely spot left in the 1st round. Simple as that. Not even a difficult prediction. 37 minutes ago, Logic said: Personally, I believe that the "Bills want to trade up for ETN" smoke was real. I believe they tried. I believe ETN was the player they were targeting. Beane literally said that if a running back added something to the room that they didn't already have, they'd absolutely take him. He want on just a few sentences later to admit that something they lack in the room is "a home run hitter". He also explained that guys like CMC and Kamara are worth first round picks because they improve both the run and pass game. Now we hear that ETN is cross-training as a WR in Jacksonville. We'll never know for sure how serious the Bills' interest in ETN was, but it is my personal opinion that they were very interested. We know how serious. They didn't make the trade. That's how serious. Edited May 23, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) Beane went unprompted at one of the post draft press conferences to say he's not in the "never draft a running back in the first round" club. Combine that with all the pre draft rumors, Etienne's comment, and Beane's pre draft comment that we didn't have a homerun threat............I think we would've taken him if available at #30. They may have even tried to trade up and failed. I would've been thrilled to get him so I hope he fails miserably in Jacksonville. Edited May 23, 2021 by Doc Brown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: Beane went unprompted at one of the post draft press conferences to say he's not in the "never draft a running back in the first round" club. Combine that with all the pre draft rumors, Etinee's comment, and Beane's pre draft comment that we didn't have a homerun threat............I think we would've taken him if available at #30. They may have even tried to trade up and failed. I would've been thrilled to get him so I hope he fails miserably in Jacksonville. Unless they didn't have him as first round talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, StHustle said: How can you say this? If Etienne ends up a HOF and Rousseau is out of the league after his rookie contract would your view still hold water? A top level RB who can also line up wide and catch as good as a starting caliber slot receiver is more valuable than an average pass rusher any day. I agree. I wanted Etienne and thought he could have helped take this offense to the next level. People seem to be blinded by “no running back in the first” that they ignore Etienne’s playmaking abilities. He’s so much more than a RB. And he’s got years of productivity. I hope Rousseau turns out to be great. He’s got all the tools but he’s beyond raw. However, the last time the bills bet on traits, we got our franchise qb...so... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Some of you guys mustn’t have the read the Embedded thread where several guys have assured me that Rousseau was the target all along. Doubt we will ever know for sure ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Unless they didn't have him as first round talent. That's possible but they would've gone against the overall consensus. I believe Beane was still with the Panthers when they drafted McCaffrey and who knows how much influence he had over that pick. Edited May 23, 2021 by Doc Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I have to admit that it would be more of a splash pick and I'd be way more excited, but they did the right thing in the end. I think it's a win if just one the top 2 edge rushers becomes a great pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: That's possible but they would've gone against the overall consensus. I believe he was still with the Panthers when they drafted McCaffrey and who knows how much influence he had over that pick. McCaffrey was a different player. All we know is the Bills didn't trade up for him.. I think it's possible they wanted him, but I don't think they felt he was McCaffrey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I have to admit that it would be more of a splash pick and I'd be way more excited, but they did the right thing in the end. I think it's a win if just one the top 2 edge rushers becomes a great pick. I wanted him too. Of all the DE’s, I thought the two that were least likely to be Bills were Rousseau and Oweh. They are just so raw. However, it’s clear that the Bills like to bet on elite traits and have been rewarded with results in guys like Allen. I also thought the covid opt outs were going to play a bigger role for the bills. They want guys that love football, but Rousseau and Brown seem to have pretty legit reasons behind their opt outs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, StHustle said: How can you say this? If Etienne ends up a HOF and Rousseau is out of the league after his rookie contract would your view still hold water? A top level RB who can also line up wide and catch as good as a starting caliber slot receiver is more valuable than an average pass rusher any day. what happens if it is switched around....Rousseau goes on to a HOF career while Etienne fails to get enough touches in a crowded backfield in Jacksonville. The Draft is a lottery and there is no such thing as a sure thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: Again there is no way that Beane would tell everyone that the Bills were targeting ETN, who is the only running back he could have been talking about. I disagree. Beane is a pretty straight shooter. Case in point: He talked leading up the draft about needing to "affect the opposing quarterback" more effectively, and then they drafted two edge rushers in the first two rounds. How do you explain that? 52 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We know how serious. They didn't make the trade. That's how serious. All we know from watching that video is that they tried to trade up and the cost being asked of them was too high. Without knowing what that cost was -- and a bunch of other variables -- there's a limited amount that can be inferred. They very well could have been willing to give up, say, their second round pick to move up, but the team on the other line was asking for next year's first. It doesn't mean they weren't highly interested in whatever player they were pursuing. Edited May 23, 2021 by Logic 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: McCaffrey was a different player. All we know is the Bills didn't trade up for him.. I think it's possible they wanted him, but I don't think they felt he was McCaffrey. Not that different. They may have felt his ceiling was McCaffrey. It's possible the Bills would've traded up for him if they weren't lacking offensive firepower like the Panthers were going into the 2017 season. Can someone give Beane some truth serum before his next press conference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Never wanted him. Give me Rousseau and Boogie all day. I can't deny I'm happy with our rookie DE's but we still need a RB upgrade over our current trio. Hopefully Breida shines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Not that different. They may have felt his ceiling was McCaffrey. It's possible the Bills would've traded up for him if they weren't lacking offensive firepower like the Panthers were going into the 2017 season. Can someone give Beane some truth serum before his next press conference? We're going a little crazy with guessing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Sometimes it’s the trade you don’t make that ends up being the win 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said: Only guys I would have been willing to trade up for were Greg Newsome and Kwity Paye. I think all the Etienne talk was just a smokescreen. Agree with this ^^^ and our first two picks probably confirmed ^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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