NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) Who would you pick with the 61st pick if you were the Warlock? Edited April 17, 2021 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Who did we pick at 30? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Milton Williams, DT, Louisiana Tech - could play the Quinton Jefferson role in our defense Tommy Togiai, DT, Ohio State - long term replacement for Star at 1-tech Jamar Johnson, S, Indiana - could be the hybrid safety/nickel CB that we've been looking for ever since we drafted Siran Neal ^Reposting what I put in the main thread. 6 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Who did we pick at 30? Joseph Ossai, EDGE, Texas Edited April 17, 2021 by HappyDays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, HappyDays said: Reposting what I put in the main thread. Round 2 is too high for any of those guys. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Who did we pick at 30? Joseph Ossai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Who would you pick with the 61st pick if you were the Warlock? Thank you sir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, ExWNYer said: Round 2 is too high for any of those guys. I'll take your word for it. I'm using a couple big boards and looking at players listed in this range. It's hard trying to predict what players will have 2nd round grades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC BIlls Fan Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 WR Anthony Schwartz Auburn in Round 3 or 4 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, SC BIlls Fan said: WR Anthony Schwartz Auburn in Round 3 or 4 What does this have to do with the 61st pick? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC BIlls Fan Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 It doesn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 Fred Jackson is my favorite player in the last 20 years 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Fred Jackson is my favorite player in the last 20 years 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 This looks like a solid list for our round 3 pick. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 No TE Pat Freiermuth ?? Went with J Cox, plays like a safety has size to cover TEs. Wouldn't mind DT Tyler Shelvin but with Star coming back a big DT isnt needed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No TE Pat Freiermuth ?? Went with J Cox, plays like a safety has size to cover TEs. Wouldn't mind DT Tyler Shelvin but with Star coming back a big DT isnt needed here. I took him with the jags pick earlier rd 2. We have no clue how good star will be and he’ll be gone after this year. He may not be able to stay healthy. He may stink. 1T is a big need imo. Edited April 17, 2021 by NewEra 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: This looks like a solid list for our round 3 pick. Athletic Players always rise up the boards this time of year , good part about that is better players will fall and can be had in the third. Just now, NewEra said: I took him with the jags pick earlier rd 2 I see, i thought this was just a Bills draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Meinerz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: This looks like a solid list for our round 3 pick. Agreed. if we would’ve taken Tyson Campbell in rd 1, we would have Carlos Basham and Joe Tryon on the list. I’d much rather have that combination than what we have here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed. if we would’ve taken Tyson Campbell in rd 1, we would have Carlos Basham and Joe Tryon on the list. I’d much rather have that combination than what we have here Heck at this point I say take Boogie Basham anyways. Not like it’s a bad thing to have 2 potential stud DEs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Heck at this point I say take Boogie Basham anyways. Not like it’s a bad thing to have 2 potential stud DEs We aren’t going to cut Jerry, Addison, epenesa, Obada or Ossai. Bam is a ST stud who they seem to love. Seems like a waste considering that we have other needs to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, NewEra said: We aren’t going to cut Jerry, Addison, epenesa, Obada or Ossai. Bam is a ST stud who they seem to love. Seems like a waste considering that we have other needs to fill. Addison and Hughes are at the end of there career and Obada is on a one year contract. Doesn’t hurt to have 6 DEs and plan for the future rather than reach. We don’t have many “needs”. is that OK State Corner still around? He may be the best DB left Edited April 17, 2021 by NeverOutNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 None of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Addison and Hughes are at the end of there career and Obama is a one year contract. Doesn’t hurt to have 6 DEs and plan for the future rather than reach. We don’t have many “needs”. is that OK State Corner still around? He may be the best DB left I hear ya. I agree that we need an influx of talent along the DL. I just think doubling up on DE with our first two picks is a mismanagement of resources. williams is a decent fit, I just think that rd2 is a big reach Edited April 17, 2021 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, B-Man said: None of the above. Who do you want ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I think Basham should at least be on the list? His value is too high to not be considered but I definitely understand it would be a luxury pick over a relative need like corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: I think Basham should at least be on the list? His value is too high to not be considered but I definitely understand it would be a luxury pick over a relative need like corner. I added Basham and Tryon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, NewEra said: I added Basham and Tryon I still may vote for Jordan or Cox but thank you those guys should’ve already been gone. Jordan could be a nice add. Those TEs from the U usually produce in the NFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: I still may vote for Jordan or Cox but thank you those guys should’ve already been gone. Jordan could be a nice add. Those TEs from the U usually produce in the NFL Agreed. Both are in conversation for bpa at this spot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Virgil said: Thank you sir Virgil, if you want the poll edited and NewEra can't oblige, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Give me Shelvin to go with Ossai. The Offense, as currently constructed with zero additions, should be a league leader in scoring. I want this DL to be transformed if we’re going to invest in defense via the draft. Rotate Star and Shelvin so Oliver and Butler can do their thing penetrating the interior of opponents OL’s, with 2 young pass rushers is Epenesa and Ossai to utilize with Hughes, Addison and Obada. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I also agree that maybe next time everyone will see how the bottom falls out on top tier Corners or even even utility standouts like JOK and Collins a lot faster than it does tier 2 TEs. Ideally we would’ve gotten our DE here and had Collins or your boy Campbell round one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) I’m still torn. I think Radunz is likely the BPA. But can he play guard? Cox is in the running for BPA, but he’s a taller Milano. He can’t play mlb. Can Milano play MLB? Is he overkill? Molden is in the running for BPA, but can’t play outside corner D”Wayne Eskeridge is my favorite player/value on the list. Kenneth Gainwell is my favorite player on the list, but might be there rd 3. Might be a reach @ 61 but he’d be worth it IMO. Edited April 17, 2021 by NewEra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m still torn. I think Radunz is likely the BPA. But can he play guard? Cox is in the running for BPA, but he’s a taller Milano. He can’t play mlb. Can Milano play MLB? Is he overkill? Molden is in the running for BPA, but can’t play outside corner D”Wayne Eskeridge is my favorite player/value on the list. Kenneth Gainwell is my favorite player on the list, but might be there rd 3. Might be a reach @ 61 but he’d be worth it IMO. A ton of these guys are nowhere near round 2 talents. I chose Molden cause I like him as a joker role/Honey Badger-esque, but he wouldn’t be my pick. We reaches like crazy for Ossai, and undoubtedly we will again in this thread. The Menierz kid being TBD’s favorite is peak TBD draft season. You don’t draft a guy in the second round who would have been lucky to be a UDFA 4 months ago. This isn’t a “wow, he wasn’t on anyone’s radar, but look at how great he was on the tape” situation. This is a “wow, he wasn’t on anyone’s radar, hasn’t played in a year, and had “okay” tape against the lowest possible competition when he did play, but he worked out a lot and looked decent against higher competition at the senior bowl.” His stock has gone from fringe camp invite to second round pick and everyone’s favorite story in the pre-draft process. Mike Mamula anyone? Edited April 17, 2021 by whatdrought 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I took him with the jags pick earlier rd 2. We have no clue how good star will be and he’ll be gone after this year. He may not be able to stay healthy. He may stink. 1T is a big need imo. That’s true, but I have a hard time liking any of the 1T DTs in this draft. I know several people seem to like Tyler Shelvin, but I worry about him being and staying in shape and he offers almost nothing in pass rush. Rotating him out in passing situations might be hard because he will take a bit of time to get on/off the field. 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Agreed. if we would’ve taken Tyson Campbell in rd 1, we would have Carlos Basham and Joe Tryon on the list. I’d much rather have that combination than what we have here I don’t think that either will make it to pick 61. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Jabril Cox has no role on our defense. He would just back up Milano. For a 2nd round pick I would hate that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Tyron would be great if we hadn't gone edge in Round 1. i like tryon better than Ossai. Jabril for me. Athletic, cover some TE's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, whatdrought said: A ton of these guys are nowhere near round 2 talents. I chose Molden cause I like him as a joker role/Honey Badger-esque, but he wouldn’t be my pick. We reaches like crazy for Ossai, and undoubtedly we will again in this thread. The Menierz kid being TBD’s favorite is peak TBD draft season. You don’t draft a guy in the second round who would have been lucky to be a UDFA 4 months ago. This isn’t a “wow, he wasn’t on anyone’s radar, but look at how great he was on the tape” situation. This is a “wow, he wasn’t on anyone’s radar, hasn’t played in a year, and had “okay” tape against the lowest possible competition when he did play, but he worked out a lot and looked decent against higher competition at the senior bowl.” His stock has gone from fringe camp invite to second round pick and everyone’s favorite story in the pre-draft process. Mike Mamula anyone? Agreed. In hindsight, the Ossai pick, based on the outcome of the 31-60 picks, was a very poor choice.....unless he turns out to be Jerry Hughes 2.0. When drafting players, as long as they turn out to be what you’re hoping for (or better than that) than it was a good pick. While the remaining selections @ 61 are less than appealing to many, if the guy we draft turns out to be a key player for years to come, than he was a great pick. Regardless of the value and people scouting reports. All of that stuff means nothing. The only thing that matters is how the player performs. Sure, it would be ideal if the BPA, when we select in every round, turned out to play a position of need. But if it’s not, it’s ok. That just means you have to spend some FA money on a 1 year deal to patch the hole. Just don’t reach on a player because you need to fill the position. There are other ways to fill it. Just draft good players and you’ll be fine. 2 minutes ago, CNYfan said: Tyron would be great if we hadn't gone edge in Round 1. i like tryon better than Ossai. Jabril for me. Athletic, cover some TE's But when does he play? This year, next year, the year after? We played nickel 91% of our defensive snaps last season. Tops in the league. McD isn’t taking Edmunds off the field. He’s not taking Milano off the field. Can he play “big nickel”? Or will he be exploited by the smaller, faster slot WRs? I know he’s great in coverage, but can he legitimately cover the slot WRs routinely? if the answer is yes, than I’m all for him as our big nickel. From what I’ve seen, I’m leaning towards no, but I’m not pro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed. In hindsight, the Ossai pick, based on the outcome of the 31-60 picks, was a very poor choice.....unless he turns out to be Jerry Hughes 2.0. When drafting players, as long as they turn out to be what you’re hoping for (or better than that) than it was a good pick. While the remaining selections @ 61 are less than appealing to many, if the guy we draft turns out to be a key player for years to come, than he was a great pick. Regardless of the value and people scouting reports. All of that stuff means nothing. The only thing that matters is how the player performs. Sure, it would be ideal if the BPA, when we select in every round, turned out to play a position of need. But if it’s not, it’s ok. That just means you have to spend some FA money on a 1 year deal to patch the hole. Just don’t reach on a player because you need to fill the position. There are other ways to fill it. Just draft good players and you’ll be fine. When it hits 5 hours, can you drop it to the best 5 remaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: When it hits 5 hours, can you drop it to the best 5 remaining? You got it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Bruce Nolan (Buffalo Rumblings Podcaster) is high on Richie Grant - S - UCF. I figure Gabriel Davis will have some inside intel on him, too. If he's good in Gabe and Bruce's books, and THIS is the list, I say take him. CAVEAT: I would try to trade back a handful of spots (5-8), and see if we can add a 4th and get Grant. Not many teams take S in the 2nd, but we need to plan for a future after Poyer/Hyde (sadly... I don't want to think about it, but we do need to plan ahead). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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