TSW Mock Draft 2.0 - Complete!!

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

For me I just don’t see what he adds to this offense? He’s a developmental move TE that’s probably never gonna be very good in-line and will be a year or two away from producing in this offense - he’s a less athletic hedge against Knox not taking a step. If I’m gonna grab a TE in that range I’d rather get Tremble, who I know can come in and be a good blocker right now and has as much upside as a receiver.

I disagree here.  Move tight ends can’t block.  He can block.  RAC ability is what he brings to the offense.  
 

I wouldn’t mind tremble but they aren’t nearly the same players when the ball is in their hands. Jordan can make people miss and has some juice.  Apparently his 40 sucked but he still has some wiggle.  A lot of wiggle for a TE and imo, has more upside as a receiver than tremble.
 

i think tremble might be better for us because he’s a better fit opposite knox, mainly because he’s a great blocker.  Jordan is just a decent blocker.  

[MAJBobby]

7 hours ago, Blokestradamus said:

I voted for Molden but ***** me, most of those options are dire for round 2.

 

Getting the distinct feeling this class might not be that good.

It isn’t Bloke. 

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

It isn’t Bloke. 

 

Mediocre class. QBs at the top are decent prospects, the OT class is very good. The rest really doesn't excite me. Decent depth at receiver is the only other thing I'd say but it doesn't have as many day 1 and 2 guys at the position as last year. 

[MAJBobby]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Mediocre class. QBs at the top are decent prospects, the OT class is very good. The rest really doesn't excite me. Decent depth at receiver is the only other thing I'd say but it doesn't have as many day 1 and 2 guys at the position as last year. 

Can agree. DT very weak. DE underwhelming. Strength in this class is QB early. Top end talent to about 18players. Big drop to next tier but next tier pretty solid though 50. After that not much. OT depth is good. CB and S class isn’t bad. 
 

TE not good

LBer is good but a lot of specialized skill sets. 
 

our pick locations miss out on the top tier and 2nd tier. I would trade down from 30 grabbing futures. If I was Beane and trading down I wouldn’t grab additional picks in this class I would grab picks for next class. 
 

also would not mind giving up all picks this year to get to top 15 (won’t happen) for the top end talent in the draft. 

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Can agree. DT very weak. DE underwhelming. Strength in this class is QB early. Top end talent to about 18players. Big drop to next tier but next tier pretty solid though 50. After that not much. OT depth is good. CB and S class isn’t bad. 
 

TE not good

LBer is good but a lot of specialized skill sets. 
 

our pick locations miss out on the top tier and 2nd tier. I would trade down from 30 grabbing futures. If I was Beane and trading down I wouldn’t grab additional picks in this class I would grab picks for next class. 
 

also would not mind giving up all picks this year to get to top 15 (won’t happen) for the top end talent in the draft. 

 

My 100th graded player is an early 4th on my board. In most years my 100th player is somewhere just past the mid 3rd. I have:

 

18 true 1sts, plus 4 borderline

35 2nds, plus 4 borderlines

 

It's a strange draft class. 

[Virgil]

The Packers @NeverOutNick are on the clock

[TPS]

15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Can agree. DT very weak. DE underwhelming. Strength in this class is QB early. Top end talent to about 18players. Big drop to next tier but next tier pretty solid though 50. After that not much. OT depth is good. CB and S class isn’t bad. 
 

TE not good

LBer is good but a lot of specialized skill sets. 
 

our pick locations miss out on the top tier and 2nd tier. I would trade down from 30 grabbing futures. If I was Beane and trading down I wouldn’t grab additional picks in this class I would grab picks for next class. 
 

also would not mind giving up all picks this year to get to top 15 (won’t happen) for the top end talent in the draft. 

While a lot of people have expressed a "disinterest" in this draft, I think it's going to be one of the most interesting, for the reasons you stated.  In playing with some of the mock drafts, some of the better outcomes come from trading back. If they can pick up a 2nd in 2022, then 2 R2 picks can get them close to the top 10. However...

 

It looks as if the Bills think they have a legitimate shot this year, so that would suggest being aggressive and getting someone who can help immediately (CB, Edge?). Using their R2 pick could get them just inside 20. They could probably get Newsome here.   Would Beane give up R2 and R3 for one player to move up a few more spots? Alternatively, Using R3 to move up in R2 gets them just inside the top 50, and the second tier of CB and Edge.  The trade back scenario would put them in the mid 40s for the same group.  All conjecture, and why I'm excited about this draft.

[whatdrought]

I hate this exercise. 

[No_Matter_What]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

I hate this exercise. 

Exercise is fine, result is not.

 

I don't watch college but I've been hearing for three months on TBD how Shelvin is one of the candidates for 1TDT for our 3rd round pick. And somehow we just took him in second. Weird.

Edited April 18, 2021 by No_Matter_What

[Logic]

These Bills picks are drunk.

[whatdrought]

26 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

Exercise is fine, result is not.

 

I don't watch college but I've hearing for three months on TBD how Shelvin is one of the candidates for 1TDT for our 3rd round pick. And somehow we just took him in second. Weird.

he’s like a fringe third rounder at best. 1 tech isn’t a top 100 pick, let alone top 65. 

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

he’s like a fringe third rounder at best. 1 tech isn’t a top 100 pick, let alone top 65. 

and that’s ok.....it’s make believe.  Beane won’t make the same mistake and reach this high to fill a need

[glazeduck]

My favorite is the fact that people were voting for a 4th rd DE AFTER WE JUST TOOK ONE IN THE FIRST. 

 

Probably should’ve been Eskridge or Cox. 

[GunnerBill]

29 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

he’s like a fringe third rounder at best. 1 tech isn’t a top 100 pick, let alone top 65. 

 

So I agree Shelvin is a late third rounder, that is the grade I have on him. But he inside my top 100 - he is #85 - which says more about this class than anything else. There are other years where a late 3rd round grade would have a player 120-140 on my board. 

38 minutes ago, glazeduck said:

My favorite is the fact that people were voting for a 4th rd DE AFTER WE JUST TOOK ONE IN THE FIRST. 

 

Probably should’ve been Eskridge or Cox. 

 

Who were they voting for?

[Blokestradamus]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Who were they voting for?

 

Might be talking about Basham, he had a few votes before the options were cut down.

[glazeduck]

29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So I agree Shelvin is a late third rounder, that is the grade I have on him. But he inside my top 100 - he is #85 - which says more about this class than anything else. There are other years where a late 3rd round grade would have a player 120-140 on my board. 

 

Who were they voting for?

Basham and Tryon. 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

These Bills picks are drunk.

I don't understand why the Bills appear to not be allowed trade.

 

Yet this mock has had a trade on nearly every other pick.

[glazeduck]

1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

I don't understand why the Bills appear to not be allowed trade.

 

Yet this mock has had a trade on nearly every other pick.

Probably just too hard to organize and make reasonable since every voter is a bills fan...

 

for better or worse, I think it’s actually informative in showing how important it is for beane to do his thing and move around the draft board. 

[Virgil]

Anyone want to make the pick for the Packers?

[GunnerBill]

20 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Anyone want to make the pick for the Packers?

 

I have tried to trade up with him so probably not me haha.

[NewEra]

13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have tried to trade up with him so probably not me haha.

I plead conflict of interests as well.  

[NeverOutNick]

With the 62nd pick in the draft Green Bay Packers select Dillon Radunz OT North Dakota State. With Bakhtiari on the shelf, GB decides to invest in the future of their offensive line. 
 

@frostbitmic and the chiefs are on the clock

43 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Anyone want to make the pick for the Packers?

Sorry for the delay was in church

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

With the 62nd pick in the draft Green Bay Packers select Dillon Radunz OT North Dakota State. With Bakhtiari on the shelf, GB decides to invest in the future of their offensive line. 
 

@frostbitmic and the chiefs are on the clock

Sorry for the delay was in church

 

I think that is the right pick FWIW.

[NewEra]

@frostbitmic is on the clock

[frostbitmic]

With the 63rd pick in the 2021 draft the Kansas City Chiefs select ... Walker Little - T - Stanford.

 

Early in his time at Stanford Little was on his way to being a 1st round draft choice. Injury in 2019 and opting out in 2020 ended that idea. Little should be healthy now , at least we hope so.

 #Bigdaddyinorlando and his bucs are on the clock

 

[RyanC883]

16 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

With the 63rd pick in the 2021 draft the Kansas City Chiefs select ... Walker Little - T - Stanford.

 

Early in his time at Stanford Little was on his way to being a 1st round draft choice. Injury in 2019 and opting out in 2020 ended that idea. Little should be healthy now , at least we hope so.

 #Bigdaddyinorlando and his bucs are on the clock

 

 

fantastic pick for them.  

[Virgil]

@BigdaddyinOrlando is on the clock

[whatdrought]

24 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

With the 63rd pick in the 2021 draft the Kansas City Chiefs select ... Walker Little - T - Stanford.

 

Early in his time at Stanford Little was on his way to being a 1st round draft choice. Injury in 2019 and opting out in 2020 ended that idea. Little should be healthy now , at least we hope so.

 #Bigdaddyinorlando and his bucs are on the clock

 

He’s one of those interesting guys caught in covid that could end up being a high pick and nobody knows who he is.

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

He’s one of those interesting guys caught in covid that could end up being a high pick and nobody knows who he is.

Agreed.  I wouldn’t be surprised if the chiefs picked him in rd 1.  

[frostbitmic]

I was going to take Radunz but the Packers beat me to it. Little should be a solid consolation prize.

[NewEra]

I’ll be going out for dinner and drinks in an hour and I’m on deck, @BigdaddyinOrlandolets roll!

[BigdaddyinOrlando]

With the 64th pick of the NFL draft the Tampa Bay Bucs select Tommy Tremble, Te of the University of Notre Dame

 

 Although he didn’t posses big receiving numbers he does have the skill set to do so. Being able to learn from Gronkowski and Brady will expedite his learning curve and allow him to fit in the offense slowly with the potential to step in as the starter in 2022!

 the Jags and @NewEra are now on the clock!

[NewEra]

With the 65th pick in the NFL draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select, Elijah Molden, CB, Washington.  
 

We’ve addressed the O entirely in this draft and it’s time to address the D.  We feel that Molden is the type of playmaker the secondary needs.  While DT is currently the bigger need, the value just isn’t there.  Molden is our BPA and we feel he’s a great compliment to play the slot in between CJ Henderson and Shaquill Griffin 

 

@Alphadawg7 and the Jets are now on the clock

[Alphadawg7]

With the 66th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select:  Jackson Carman, OT/G Clemson.

 

Doubling down on doing the opposite of what we did with Darnold, we are adding here second new prospect along our OL to help protect our new QB. Carman brings versatility as well to our OL as we see him projecting into a potential starting guard at the next level after a successful college career at LT.  We see a lot of potential for him sliding inside to guard, but with the versatility to backup our starting LT Becton if needed.  
 

@RyanC883 and the Houston Texans are now on the clock.

[RyanC883]

With the 67th pick of the 2021 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select, Josh Myers, C, Ohio State.  

 

Houston has a TON of needs, one of them is Center.  While WR is also a clear need for Houston, this appears to be the last center available with a day 1 starter grade on him while some WRs will likely be available for Houston later in the draft.    

 

@GunnerBilland the Atlanta Falcons are now on the clock.  

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

With the 66th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select:  Jackson Carman, OT/G Clemson.

 

Doubling down on doing the opposite of what we did with Darnold, we are adding here second new prospect along our OL to help protect our new QB. Carman brings versatility as well to our OL as we see him projecting into a potential starting guard at the next level after a successful college career at LT.  We see a lot of potential for him sliding inside to guard, but with the versatility to backup our starting LT Becton if needed.  
 

@RyanC883 and the Houston Texans are now on the clock.

i don’t hate your draft but you know that there is close to zero% chance of the Jets drafting 4 offensive players in a row right?  Saleh is not gonna have that.  I’d go so far as to say that #23 will be a defensive player, most likely a CB named Greg Newsome.  

[GunnerBill]

With the 68th pick of the 2021 NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select, Quinn Meinerz, C, Wiconsin-Whitewater.  

 

My first offensive selection of the draft is a center and a guy I have been trying to trade up to snag for the last 10 picks. The Falcons lost veteran center Alex Mack in free agency and while they do have Matt Hennessey who they took out of Temple in round 3 last year they also have a vacant starting job at left guard where Meinerz started in college in 2019. I think Meinerz's ceiling is way above that of Hennessey but we might be happy to slide him in at guard as a rookie before moving him to center in year 2. This guy just screams Arthur Smith. That inside zone / power hybrid blocking scheme that he ran for Derrick Henry in Tennessee is perfect for Meinerz's skill set. Love the fit. 

 

@BigdaddyinOrlando and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are now on the clock.

[Alphadawg7]

56 minutes ago, NewEra said:

i don’t hate your draft but you know that there is close to zero% chance of the Jets drafting 4 offensive players in a row right?  Saleh is not gonna have that.  I’d go so far as to say that #23 will be a defensive player, most likely a CB named Greg Newsome.  

 
I don’t disagree with you, but this draft did not fall very realistic either before my picks.  
 

The defense is in way better shape than the offense, especially the mess of an OL IMO.  They just flushed a ton of assets down the toilet they used to draft Darnold because they didn’t support him.  My target at 23 definitely included DB, but at 23 the DBs I had graded higher were taken in this draft.  I’m certain the 23rd pick will be either OL or DB depending how the real draft falls.  And there were a ton of DBs taken by the time the 3rd round pick came around, so went for the OL again as I didn’t see one worth taking there.  And they need the help on the line.  
 

And you took the DB I was gonna take in the third the pick before me too  
 

 

Edited April 19, 2021 by Alphadawg7

[BigdaddyinOrlando]

With the 69th pick of the NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Bucs select: Katy Vincent Jr, cb from LSU.

 Vincent brings some serious speed and is well suited to play slot corner. Has tremendous speed and coverage skills. Teams can never have enough corners in today’s game and taking one from LSU is never a bad thing! 
 

The Patriots and @Doc Brown are on the clock

[MAJBobby]

20 hours ago, whatdrought said:

he’s like a fringe third rounder at best. 1 tech isn’t a top 100 pick, let alone top 65. 

I have him as the 85th best player on my board, Would have been a good 3rd, hate him as the 2nd.

19 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

I don't understand why the Bills appear to not be allowed trade.

 

Yet this mock has had a trade on nearly every other pick.

Need another team to trade with, no one wanted to trade with Bills