Jump to content

Bills opening stadium discussions with NYS and Erie County


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 313
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Build new. 65,000 seat dome. Location will be the question.    There is literally no point to renovate. It's a waste of time and money. Build new or leave it alone.

If they're going to build a new stadium, I hope it stays in Orchard Park. I can't remember which team's new stadium it was (Pittsburgh? Houston?), but they just built it on what used to be the pa

I don't think they have much choice. I believe the NFL is pushing hard for them to get a more modern stadium. So the question is should the team move or should they get get a new stadium/update the ex

Posted Images

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Put it downtown.

 

Make it a dome so it can be used as a Convention Center offseason.

 

Tie in a couple hotels, and a bunch of bars and restaurants. That way I can fly up for a game and never leave "the compound" all weekend.

 

Boom, into the 21st century.

Yes the vaunted convention center idea.  So many people are looking to skip Las Vegas, Orlando and Chicago and come to Buffalo. 

  • Like (+1) 5
  • Angry 1
  • Haha (+1) 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:

We almost had a MLB team come here but not enough seats. 

 

This isn't a serious point, is it? 

 

Lack of seating at the former Pilot Field was NOT the reason we didn't get a major league team, Bob Rich and our bad demographics were the reasons.

 

You do know that the baseball stadium was built to support an eventual upper deck, right?

Edited by BillnutinHouston
  • Like (+1) 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, Kelsayrundefense said:

Yes the vaunted convention center idea.  So many people are looking to skip Las Vegas, Orlando and Chicago and come to Buffalo. 

 

No one is saying they'll pack it with conventions. But having the option and the ability to generate any revenue outside of merely 10 days a year is smarter than not having it.

 

With Buffalo's central location to so much of the NE population, they certainly could try to rope in a couple of different events. Better than none.

Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, Logic said:

If they're going to build a new stadium, I hope it stays in Orchard Park.

I can't remember which team's new stadium it was (Pittsburgh? Houston?), but they just built it on what used to be the parking lot of the old stadium, and turned the site of the old stadium into the new parking lot.

I'm all for whatever it takes to keep the Bills in Buffalo long term, but game days sure would lose a lot of their charm and what makes them special if the stadium left Orchard Park for downtown Buffalo. Having been to away games in city centers, I can say that the Bills game day experience is much, much, MUCH more fun and unique and special. 

Keep the Bills in Orchard Park.

 

Exactly. My concern with the downtown thing is that what gets talked about is what it would do for downtown, not what it would do for the experience at the stadium. I think there's benefits and detractions to the game experience by being downtown, but they've never seemed like a major concern when a downtown stadium is talked about. 

 

There's also that looming question of, is it really that great to have a massive plot of land that doesn't do anything for the vast majority of the year in the middle of a city?

Link to post
Share on other sites
40 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Ehh, to me, the real essence of Mafia-dom happens inside the stadium when we bring one of the most raucous environments for an opposing team to play in.

 

The "tailgating" we are now (in)famous for is just buffoonery that was added to make the games entertaining since the product on the field was so bad for so long. You can keep the "I had my first beer today" frat party. We can go back to the tailgating that was around back in the 80s-90s when it was centered around some good food before a good game.

 

Very well put.  Thanks for putting "tailgating" in its proper perspective.

  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

This isn't a serious point, is it? 

 

Lack of seating at the former Pilot Field was NOT the reason we didn't get a major league team, Bob Rich and our bad demographics were the reasons.

 

You do know that the baseball stadium was built to support an eventual upper deck, right?

They specifically said when they chose a different location that lack of seating had a play in it. I didn't say it was the main reason but It had a play in why they didn't come.

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said:

They specifically said when they chose a different location that lack of seating had a play in it. I didn't say it was the main reason but It had a play in why they didn't come.

 

Link?  While my memory differs from yours about what explanations were given, what you are asserting would have been an incredibly shallow and disingenuous explanation, given that it was well known to the public and more importantly to decision makers that the stadium was designed to be expandable.

  • Agree 2
  • Awesome! (+1) 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Locomark said:

This is the key point. You end up sinking 500 mil into Renos every 5 years and instead of a new stadium you will have spent the same cost in 10 years and gotten the same old stadium with pretty new signage and bigger concourses. Just stupid. Rebuild it already. 

Exactly!!!! It’s frustrating to see the wasteful spending.

Link to post
Share on other sites
24 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

They specifically said when they chose a different location that lack of seating had a play in it. I didn't say it was the main reason but It had a play in why they didn't come.

I disagree. The stadium was built knowing it could be expanded to major league size if we got a team

  • Awesome! (+1) 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

What the city could use is a real brick and mortar amphitheater downtown.  That could bring a lot of people down there multiple times a week during the Summer months.  

This would be great, and there is plenty of land on the outer harbor(just a stones throw from downtown), but the powers that be along with some misguided public input, insist that ALL OF IT becomes park land.  😡

53 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

Lack of seating at the former Pilot Field was NOT the reason we didn't get a major league team. Bob Rich and our bad demographics were was the reason.

 

You do know that the baseball stadium was built to support an eventual upper deck, right?

I fixed your post.  I'll never forget Bob Rich waving a blank check around(in front of the media) at an owners meeting...when it was still a possibility.

Edited by BTB
Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, BTB said:

This would be great, and there is plenty of land on the outer harbor(just a stones throw from downtown), but the powers that be along with some misguided public input, insist that ALL OF IT becomes park land.  😡

I fixed your post.  I'll never forget Bob Rich waving a blank check around(in front of the media) at an owners meeting...when it was still a possibility.

until he found out how much it would cost

  • Awesome! (+1) 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, teef said:

did your taxes just get adjusted to what you bought the house for?

Well I think that means you leave in New York won't get political  well get yelled at.

But last time I checked we are the highest in the country. And where I live we are the highest in upstate NY $33 per $1000.

 

So the school kids thank you.

 

FYI my cottage in the 1000 island is seasonal use with a discount av240k taxes are still $6400.

 

Condo in the keys av445k taxes are $1100

 

Just saying 

Maybe chandler can build an addition and we can stay with him at his place

24 minutes ago, Special K said:

Give me one of these please:

 

Vikings-Stadium-Timelapse-2-GIF.gif

Can we build it that fast also

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

What the city could use is a real brick and mortar amphitheater downtown.  That could bring a lot of people down there multiple times a week during the Summer months.  

That would be a nice, I’d love a small scale amphitheater that attracts smaller shows though. There’s just too much competition in NYS for the big shows with all these 10-20K outdoor amphitheaters, especially with the control Live Nation has. I think the future of music is going to be more centered around these smaller venues. Just give me some good music in downtown Buffalo on those nice summer days, and I’m happy. It wouldn’t even need to attract huge acts. 

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, bigK14094 said:

Without tailgating, a significant fraction of today's audience will not attend.  Downtown is a loosing idea except for the social engineering folks.

Tailgating as you know it will go away with new Stadium anyway. Downtown Dome Stadium makes the most financial sense 

Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Just copy and paste Lucas Oil stadium in downtown Buffalo. 

 

Totally disagree about Lucas Oil. We already have enough historical (and decaying) warehouses in Buffalo.  Why Disney it up with fake architecture like that when we should go modern. Do something that stands out and is dynamic.  I cringe every time I see Lucas Oil Stadium.

 

 

waterfront%20stadium.jpg

 

40fa01ac4891db551ee15a5068df5bf1.jpg

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, bigK14094 said:

Without tailgating, a significant fraction of today's audience will not attend.  Downtown is a loosing idea except for the social engineering folks.

 

They'll be there. You'll be there. Everyone will be there. And those that dont go, wont be missed. Plenty of folks waiting to take their spots, especially with a winning team. No one is concerned with the Tailgate Die Hards, nor should they be.

  • Awesome! (+1) 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

This isn't a serious point, is it? 

 

Lack of seating at the former Pilot Field was NOT the reason we didn't get a major league team, Bob Rich and our bad demographics were the reasons.

 

You do know that the baseball stadium was built to support an eventual upper deck, right?

Rich blinked at the $95 million 'entry fee', which in hindsight, would've been a bargain.

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

They'll be there. You'll be there. Everyone will be there. And those that dont go, wont be missed. Plenty of folks waiting to take their spots, especially with a winning team. No one is concerned with the Tailgate Die Hards, nor should they be.

...Until, they get the bill...

Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, scuba guy said:

Well I think that means you leave in New York won't get political  well get yelled at.

But last time I checked we are the highest in the country. And where I live we are the highest in upstate NY $33 per $1000.

 

So the school kids thank you.

 

FYI my cottage in the 1000 island is seasonal use with a discount av240k taxes are still $6400.

 

Condo in the keys av445k taxes are $1100

 

Just saying 

Maybe chandler can build an addition and we can stay with him at his place

 

you're preaching to the choir.   i also live in monroe county, (i think we're the second in the state), the family has a place in sackets harbor, and i have a building in ontario county.  it's gross.  soon i'll be paying tax on 3 places in NY.  

 

i was more just wondering why your taxes went up so much.  i just assumed you they were adjusted to your purchase price.  

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...