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Hi all, I am just going to give a little history and where I am at with the Bills. I was born in 69 so I have seen my share of not even play off droughts but "cant" in 7 games droughts.  I started watching football with my pap when I was around 6 years old which put me around the 1975-76 range. Born into football with a solid QB named Joe Ferguson and other players on the team like OJ Simpson, Bob Chandler and Tony Greene. What a fun time to just become a fan(sarcasm), In the next 4 years the team had a combined record of 17 and 43. Born into foot ball with 4 straight years of scary bad standings to never be repeated again.

 

Then for 2 years straight we had the Ferguson, Cribbs, Butler/Lewis combo and made it to the playoffs to straight years to not win a playoff game. I remember calling him Butler fingers as in "butter fingers"  cause you thought Knox dropped balls... this guy turned it into a talent... or so how I remembered it. then after two straight 2-14 seasons our GM pulled the trigger and drafted a guy named Jim Kelly and got a coach named Marv Levy. 

 

After a 7-8 season they went on a 12-4 record and took us to the Conf. game where we lost. The following year man... expectations were high! We wanted a SB run but we had struggles on defense that year and lost the division round. Our defense struggled this year as I remember it and our high flying fast throwing deep ball diving football team could not get on the field enough. Questions were asked that year with all the talent we had why did we fail?

 

Then with out Question the Bills made 4 straight SB appearances. A glorious time it was. We should have won one of them but the team and the fans kept our chins up high as we were proud yet frustrated fans.. we wanted our SB Win. After 3 more years Kelly retired. I sobbed. Then other teams left and started joining other teams. Then we went 17 straight years of... Ownership making silly decisions, GM every 3-4 years and coaches every 2 years.. Boy it took a long time to get it right.

 

Now many of you are wondering.. why the long writeup on history we already know about? Well to make a point I guess. You see we had Kelly for 11 years. Josh we will have for much longer and on top of that we have a Coach and a young GM that I feel will be with us for years but.. The point being is we are going to have down years with this QB and amazing years with this QB BUT... we have our QB. and because we have this amazing QB named Josh Allen who after his second year, takes this team on his shoulders and drags us to the Conf. Champ game. We are going to have bumps in the road but we are going to have a fun ride. Enjoy it Bills fans.. we deserve it!

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Nice write up! I am older than you by 7 years and your take about the Bills is spot on.. (the 1980 playoff loss to the Chargers stings me worse than the super bowl losses.., )Anyway just hope they keep on this path with McD and Beane.. MEANING CONSISTENCY .. and the inference is the other Franchise that Ownership has..

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16 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

Hi all, I am just going to give a little history and where I am at with the Bills. I was born in 69 so I have seen my share of not even play off droughts but "cant" in 7 games droughts.  I started watching football with my pap when I was around 6 years old which put me around the 1975-76 range. Born into football with a solid QB named Joe Ferguson and other players on the team like OJ Simpson, Bob Chandler and Tony Greene. What a fun time to just become a fan(sarcasm), In the next 4 years the team had a combined record of 17 and 43. Born into foot ball with 4 straight years of scary bad standings to never be repeated again.

 

Then for 2 years straight we had the Ferguson, Cribbs, Butler/Lewis combo and made it to the playoffs to straight years to not win a playoff game. I remember calling him Butler fingers as in "butter fingers"  cause you thought Knox dropped balls... this guy turned it into a talent... or so how I remembered it. then after two straight 2-14 seasons our GM pulled the trigger and drafted a guy named Jim Kelly and got a coach named Marv Levy. 

 

After a 7-8 season they went on a 12-4 record and took us to the Conf. game where we lost. The following year man... expectations were high! We wanted a SB run but we had struggles on defense that year and lost the division round. Our defense struggled this year as I remember it and our high flying fast throwing deep ball diving football team could not get on the field enough. Questions were asked that year with all the talent we had why did we fail?

 

Then with out Question the Bills made 4 straight SB appearances. A glorious time it was. We should have won one of them but the team and the fans kept our chins up high as we were proud yet frustrated fans.. we wanted our SB Win. After 3 more years Kelly retired. I sobbed. Then other teams left and started joining other teams. Then we went 17 straight years of... Ownership making silly decisions, GM every 3-4 years and coaches every 2 years.. Boy it took a long time to get it right.

 

Now many of you are wondering.. why the long writeup on history we already know about? Well to make a point I guess. You see we had Kelly for 11 years. Josh we will have for much longer and on top of that we have a Coach and a young GM that I feel will be with us for years but.. The point being is we are going to have down years with this QB and amazing years with this QB BUT... we have our QB. and because we have this amazing QB named Josh Allen who after his second year, takes this team on his shoulders and drags us to the Conf. Champ game. We are going to have bumps in the road but we are going to have a fun ride. Enjoy it Bills fans.. we deserve it!

 

Just give me one Super Bowl championship season. I want them to win more obviously but just one in my lifetime and I will be happy.

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15 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

Thanks Dwight. I feel we have special years coming but there will be bumps. could even be this year cause of the cap hell we are in who knows but I am glad you got where I was coming from

IF you don't like it or don't like me or get it then ask. others have. Then you say you block me.. another perfect example of derailment by the one and only NewEra

Again.. feeling very optimistic .. and we have seen it all.. 

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55 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

Then for 2 years straight we had the Ferguson, Cribbs, Butler/Lewis combo and made it to the playoffs to straight years to not win a playoff game.

 

We beat the Jets on the road in 1981 in the AFC Wildcard, thanks to Bill Simpson's last-minute interception. We then lost at Cincinnati, the eventual AFC champions, in the Divisional Round. That year, three of the five AFC East teams went to the playoffs: us, the Jets, and Miami.

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Just now, GoBills808 said:

Quick, someone somewhere just said Josh Allen is better than some other QB

Yeah....I did.  Just like I did in the Watson thread.  Not my fault others get butt hurt because myself, as a bills fan on a bills website, can also be objective about another athlete that doesn’t play for the Bills. 
 

Mahomes is currently > Allen.  I apologize if I just gave you an aneurism 

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9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah....I did.  Just like I did in the Watson thread.  Not my fault others get butt hurt because myself, as a bills fan on a bills website, can also be objective about another athlete that doesn’t play for the Bills. 
 

Mahomes is currently > Allen.  I apologize if I just gave you an aneurism 

 

Mahomes is currently better than Allen but I do think that Allen physically is as dynamic as Mahomes and I think it is possible given Allen's arc of progress that he can get to the same performance level of Mahomes from an in game decision making and reaction perspective.

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1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said:

 

Then for 2 years straight we had the Ferguson, Cribbs, Butler/Lewis combo and made it to the playoffs to straight years to not win a playoff game.

Fact Check.  Born in 1960 so the Bermuda Triangle / Ground Chuck Bills were in my college days.  In 1981 the Bills beat the NY Jets in Shea Stadium when Bill Simpson picked off Richard Todd at game end.  Bills had led 24-0 at one point.  My favorite Bill of all time, Charlie Romes, picked up opening kickoff fumble and returned for a TD.  Wild game as Fergie and Todd both threw 2 TDs and 4 INTs.  

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Froze my arse to a metal bench at Rich stadium watching the Browns & Bills slug it out in a classic “who wants it less” affair, November of Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Four. Was barely 9 years old.

 

It’s been all downhill since.

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30 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Mahomes is currently better than Allen but I do think that Allen physically is as dynamic as Mahomes and I think it is possible given Allen's arc of progress that he can get to the same performance level of Mahomes from an in game decision making and reaction perspective.

I agree.  I’m with Jordan Palmer in saying he’s the most physically gifted QB ever.  I don’t think it’s really even that close tbh.

 

allen may eventually be better. He isn’t yet. It shouldn’t hurt to hear that he’s not better than a transcendent QB like Mahomes after Allen has had one “great” season”

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10 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Fact Check.  Born in 1960 so the Bermuda Triangle / Ground Chuck Bills were in my college days.  In 1981 the Bills beat the NY Jets in Shea Stadium when Bill Simpson picked off Richard Todd at game end.  Bills had led 24-0 at one point.  My favorite Bill of all time, Charlie Romes, picked up opening kickoff fumble and returned for a TD.  Wild game as Fergie and Todd both threw 2 TDs and 4 INTs.  

that's an awesome memory

10 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

Froze my arse to a metal bench at Rich stadium watching the Browns & Bills slug it out in a classic “who wants it less” affair, November of Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Four. Was barely 9 years old.

 

It’s been all downhill since.

hah those were the days huh? but all down hill since? explain?

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