Patrick Duffy Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) On 1/21/2021 at 4:18 PM, MJS said: I'm not sure that matters, though. It comes down to getting back to your baseline stats. And Allen is a tough SOB. Expand It absolutely matters. To me, it clearly shows PM's was more severe, in which case would likely take more time to recover Edited January 21, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy
MJS Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 4:20 PM, Patrick_Duffy said: It absolutely matters. To me, it clearly shows PM's was more severe, in which case would likely take more time to recover Expand That's not how the brain works. Each concussion is completely unique and cannot be compared to each other. And regardless, Mahomes may have ALSO have the pinched nerve thing contributing to everything. And even if it was more severe, that doesn't mean that he can't recover quickly from it. Each recovery is different. 1
Patrick Duffy Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) On 1/21/2021 at 4:23 PM, MJS said: That's not how the brain works. Each concussion is completely unique and cannot be compared to each other. And regardless, Mahomes may have ALSO have the pinched nerve thing contributing to everything. And even if it was more severe, that doesn't mean that he can't recover quickly from it. Each recovery is different. Expand Well, I'm no brain expert and I'm quite sure your'e not either. In any case I agree they are all different, however if I see 2 players that get "concussed" and one gets up on his on and runs off the field with no assistance and the other can't stand without support and needed to be held up, I would certainly think that player that couldn't stand would be a lot less likely to play the following week than the other. That's just me though I will have to disagree Edited January 21, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy 1
MJS Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 4:30 PM, Patrick_Duffy said: Well, I'm no brain expert and I'm quite sure your'e not either. In any case I agree they are all different, however if I see 2 players that get "concussed" and one gets up on his on and runs off the field with no assistance and the other can't stand without support and needed to be held up, I would certainly think that player that couldn't stand would be a lot less likely to play the following week than the other. That's just me though I will have to disagree Expand That may be true or it may not. Regardless, Mahomes is in Stage 4 because he practiced Wednesday. So in this instance he has been on the same trajectory as Allen was with his concussion. And Tre White when he entered the protocol after getting elbow dropped by Gronk a few years ago. Tre played the next game. I'm personally not sure why some people are thinking this is a conspiracy. Players get through the protocol in one week all the time. Many don't, for sure, but many do. 1
dlonce Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 He undoubtedly has a concussion. This choke hold, pinched nerve only is nonsense. He possibly could have a spinal cord injury. He also might have whiplash along with a concussion. Note, when I watched the replay a few times, after he stands up he grabs the upper right pectoral muscle, then taps it. As though it burned or in pain. Watching him jogging in practice you can also see him twisting, stretching his neck muscles as though attempting to alleviate tension or pain. I believe he’s going to have issues this Sunday. 1 2
thenorthremembers Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 4:51 PM, dlonce said: He undoubtedly has a concussion. This choke hold, pinched nerve only is nonsense. He possibly could have a spinal cord injury. He also might have whiplash along with a concussion. Note, when I watched the replay a few times, after he stands up he grabs the upper right pectoral muscle, then taps it. As though it burned or in pain. Watching him jogging in practice you can also see him twisting, stretching his neck muscles as though attempting to alleviate tension or pain. I believe he’s going to have issues this Sunday. Expand The way his body reacted was down right scary. It didnt look like something, concussion or not, that your body recovers from in a week. That said, these athletes get the absolute best care in the world.
Rick 'r Mortis Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 4:51 PM, dlonce said: He undoubtedly has a concussion. This choke hold, pinched nerve only is nonsense. He possibly could have a spinal cord injury. He also might have whiplash along with a concussion. Note, when I watched the replay a few times, after he stands up he grabs the upper right pectoral muscle, then taps it. As though it burned or in pain. Watching him jogging in practice you can also see him twisting, stretching his neck muscles as though attempting to alleviate tension or pain. I believe he’s going to have issues this Expand Come on Jerry, slam Pat to the ground hard! 🤣 1 1
BillsShredder83 Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 2:45 PM, bigduke6 said: thats fine, entitled to your opinion, but thats all it is, an opinion. no science to back up your theory either. you have as much info as i do. none. the only thing we have is the footage, and at no point does his head make any type of serious impact. Expand The front of his head smashes into the turf. Brain smashes into the front of his skull. Watch the end of the play again 1
dlonce Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 4:54 PM, thenorthremembers said: The way his body reacted was down right scary. It didnt look like something, concussion or not, that your body recovers from in a week. That said, these athletes get the absolute best care in the world. Expand I really hope they did an MRI on him. Ive heard no news of such an occurrence.
Gugny Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 2:45 PM, bigduke6 said: thats fine, entitled to your opinion, but thats all it is, an opinion. no science to back up your theory either. you have as much info as i do. none. the only thing we have is the footage, and at no point does his head make any type of serious impact. Expand Look again.
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 I want to believe that the team is on the up and up, but also think that the pressures to clear him to play are enormous. 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) On 1/21/2021 at 5:12 PM, BillsShredder83 said: The front of his head smashes into the turf. Brain smashes into the front of his skull. Watch the end of the play again Expand You saw his brain? I haven’t seen that angle Edited January 21, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1
dlonce Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 Looks to be having an issue with his left foot. Good luck Patty
Chewmylegoff Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) On 1/21/2021 at 8:47 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand Looks like my 75 year old dad running out there. Edited January 21, 2021 by Chewmylegoff 1
Juice_32 Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 8:56 PM, dlonce said: Looks to be having an issue with his left foot. Good luck Patty Expand Yep, that toe is a problem.
HOUSE Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 The toe is all screwed up, anybody can see that
BuffaloBaumer Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 Cleat stomp, and plenty of them directly to his toe please 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 8:47 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand One of the replies was kinda LOL, sorry (all in good fun-hope this really isn't what trots out there Sunday) 2
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 9:04 PM, HOUSE said: The toe is all screwed up, anybody can see that Expand I don't want to play him with a bad toe, I want to play him when his fingers and toes are 100%. f d *!
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