Tenhigh Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, SoTier said: I think of abolitionism, the woman's rights movement, the labor movement, the civil rights and lgbt rights movements, but then I'm a retired leftist techie originally trained in American history. We hear what we want, right? Objective listening is something we can all work on I think. 5 minutes ago, daz28 said: Anything AOC says is always heard by Republicans in the "GET OUT" voice that a possessed house uses. She could come up with the most brilliant idea, and they'd hear SOCIALIZM! She does get a lot of undue attention by the right. Not sure I have heard a brilliant idea out of her yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: We hear what we want, right? Objective listening is something we can all work on I think. She does get a lot of undue attention by the right. Not sure I have heard a brilliant idea out of her yet though. If they think giving her attention is a good plan, they're really stupid. All the voters on the right already hate her. Why try to fix something that isn't broken, which just makes her more popular on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, daz28 said: If they think giving her attention is a good plan, they're really stupid. All the voters on the right already hate her. Why try to fix something that isn't broken, which just makes her more popular on the left. I think that it's more that she's an easy target than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, daz28 said: Anything AOC says is always heard by Republicans in the "GET OUT" voice that a possessed house uses. She could come up with the most brilliant idea, and they'd hear SOCIALIZM! Easy example is the green deal or whatever all it was, was a bunch of goals to work toward to fight climate change. GOP response look at these extreme laws she wants to enact. Completely ignoring that they were things to move toward not actual laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Wow that all looks very offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, daz28 said: The only rule that changed is they closed Parler, and now more people are in here grasping at straws. It's real simple, if you wanted peace, you'd have tried to restore it IMMEDIATELY. Not to mention he took a constitutional oath to do so. Immediately. But no no.....he wanted a coup....and then called it off. Worst dictator ever. Loses elections. Can't keep power. We're still distancing for life because Amazon waited for Biden to help distribute the vaccine that may or may not work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 McConnel is requesting the impeachment trial be delayed two weeks to allowed former twice impeached President Trump’s legal team a chance to build a defense. Dems seem like they will agree as Republicans aren’t pushing back on confirmations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Exactly.....but.....re educate Trump voters or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Exactly.....but.....re educate Trump voters or something So we're all the fools, because they weren't good at insurrection? Tell me, why did they storm the capital? Am I allowed to say stormed, or would I be over-reacting? They went in there, because they wanted to stop Biden from being confirmed president. Their orange coup-laid guy told them the election was rigged, and they weren't going to let it happen. That's TEXTBOOK insurrection. Again, it's no ones but their own fault they sucked at it. Also, Trumpster fire was watching with glee as, evidenced by his tweet(and as you will hear during the impeachment trial), and after seeing it didn't go well, he decided after much pressure from sane people to tell them that he loved them, they did a great job, but it's time to go home with the L. Michael Tracey, you sir are a crackhead. Nothing to see here folks, just a few casual out of towners wanting to see how a joint session of Congress works. This guy thinks he's Bill Murray talking to the gopher: I'm just a rabbit, not a plastic explosive or anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Failed insurrection by failed political party... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 House to send impeachment article against Trump to Senate on Monday 10:37AM Schumer says article of impeachment against Trump will be delivered to Senate on Monday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 hours ago, Big Blitz said: We're still distancing for life lol We'll all be lucky to be distanced from you for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 18 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Exactly.....but.....re educate Trump voters or something It turned into an erection, according to UpChuck. Which is such a Freudian slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 9:20 PM, Big Blitz said: Immediately. But no no.....he wanted a coup....and then called it off. Worst dictator ever. Loses elections. Can't keep power. We're still distancing for life because Amazon waited for Biden to help distribute the vaccine that may or may not work. Trump didn't call anything off. He was hoping the Republican Senators and Pence would go along with the plan. They didn't. He's coup failed like most of his business ventures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Trump didn't call anything off. He was hoping the Republican Senators and Pence would go along with the plan. They didn't. He's coup failed like most of his business ventures. Yep. Anybody who doubts that Trump intended for that crowd to go to the Capitol and terrorize Pence and the Republican Senators into overturning the election results are lying to themselves because his blatant attempts to bribe, bully, and threaten state officials is part of the public record. Trump's coup attempt failed because Americans who actually love their country and take their oaths to support and defend the Constitution seriously refused to join in his treason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, SoTier said: Yep. Anybody who doubts that Trump intended for that crowd to go to the Capitol and terrorize Pence and the Republican Senators into overturning the election results are lying to themselves because his blatant attempts to bribe, bully, and threaten state officials is part of the public record. Trump's coup attempt failed because Americans who actually love their country and take their oaths to support and defend the Constitution seriously refused to join in his treason. Don’t forget Trump told the people he was going to March to the Capitol with him. Then he didn’t go. On 1/13/2021 at 2:00 PM, Big Blitz said: And Mitch just canceled impeachment but got exactly the headline he wanted.....all the Ds had to do was shut up and let the actual removal from office take place next week. Instead, the Ds set what's sure to be a lunacy filled term that already began with Amen and Awoman.....Mitch got this Thank you all for playing like the children you are... I thought Mitch cancelled the impeachment? How come the articles are being transferred to the Senate and trial beginning the week of the 8th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Backintheday544 said: Don’t forget Trump told the people he was going to March to the Capitol with him. Then he didn’t go. I thought Mitch cancelled the impeachment? How come the articles are being transferred to the Senate and trial beginning the week of the 8th? Because he got Chuckie to agree to not end the Republic by killing the filibuster. Then, Mitch will let the Ds make complete fools of themselves by trying to claim Trump led an actual insurrection. Mitch gets the month plus away from the event for reality to set in that everything is stupid (I've always said Libs make the egregious mistake of thinking that just because you see events happen in real time that opinon is also formed in that moment). A few Rs will vote to impeach the other 46 will not and life goes on. But good luck to you all in your quest to not run against a guy in 2024 that you'd think should easily be beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Because he got Chuckie to agree to not end the Republic by killing the filibuster. Then, Mitch will let the Ds make complete fools of themselves by trying to claim Trump led an actual insurrection. Mitch gets the month plus away from the event for reality to set in that everything is stupid (I've always said Libs make the egregious mistake of thinking that just because you see events happen in real time that opinon is also formed in that moment). A few Rs will vote to impeach the other 46 will not and life goes on. But good luck to you all in your quest to not run against a guy in 2024 that you'd think should easily be beaten. I wouldn’t mind if he ran in 2024. He’s a twice impeached president who was easily beaten by a super old, not always there, terrible past candidate in Biden. Dems could run a sh*t sandwich in 2024 and beat Trump easily again. And Dems said no to the filibuster demands: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535197-democrats-shoot-down-mcconnells-filibuster-gambit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: I wouldn’t mind if he ran in 2024. He’s a twice impeached president who was easily beaten by a super old, not always there, terrible past candidate in Biden. Dems could run a sh*t sandwich in 2024 and beat Trump easily again. And Dems said no to the filibuster demands: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535197-democrats-shoot-down-mcconnells-filibuster-gambit Yea I think Big Blitz forgot that Trump got beat by Biden of all people. He will never be allowed to run for president again though. Edited January 23, 2021 by TBBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: I wouldn’t mind if he ran in 2024. He’s a twice impeached president who was easily beaten by a super old, not always there, terrible past candidate in Biden. Dems could run a sh*t sandwich in 2024 and beat Trump easily again. And Dems said no to the filibuster demands: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535197-democrats-shoot-down-mcconnells-filibuster-gambit Oh for real?* They shot down a promise to maintain the Republic they fake care about? Fascinating. *If you believe they actually did shoot it down and McConnell surrendered the Senate and the Republic away without an actual deal you're an idiot. They aren't making it public. How can we prove it? Wait 6 months. If it's still there, they made a deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Oh for real?* They shot down a promise to maintain the Republic they fake care about? Fascinating. *If you believe they actually did shoot it down and McConnell surrendered the Senate and the Republic away without an actual deal you're an idiot. They aren't making it public. How can we prove it? Wait 6 months. If it's still there, they made a deal. You may want to go back and learn about how the government works. We will know if a deal is reached when they pass the organizing resolution. McConnell wanted to include in the Senate's rules a guarantee that there would be no effort to pursue the "nuclear option" — changing the rules with a simple majority rather than the higher 60- or 67-vote threshold — during the next two years, or as long as the 50-50 split lasted. Democrats said no. If that language gets in the organizing resolution then we will know they reached a deal to not use the legislative filibuster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Backintheday544 said: You may want to go back and learn about how the government works. You may want to catch up on how politics works. #Leverage #BackRoomDeals #PinkySwear #WinkWink I'm sure Schumer doesn't want to throw away the leverage he has in nuking the country I mean filibuster (even tho Manchin and probably others are a no). Everything in DC is compromise (K street bribes which is why they really don't want to kill it anyway). But you really think the only thing the Rs did here was achieve giving Trump "time" to set up his legal defense (which should take 10 minutes). What did they really get in this "deal?" Odd they mentioned the filibuster but that was "shot down." Why was that leaked to the press? So now we know it was discussed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Because he got Chuckie to agree to not end the Republic by killing the filibuster. Then, Mitch will let the Ds make complete fools of themselves by trying to claim Trump led an actual insurrection. Mitch gets the month plus away from the event for reality to set in that everything is stupid (I've always said Libs make the egregious mistake of thinking that just because you see events happen in real time that opinon is also formed in that moment). A few Rs will vote to impeach the other 46 will not and life goes on. But good luck to you all in your quest to not run against a guy in 2024 that you'd think should easily be beaten. ROTFLMAO. Once again, get your head out of your butt. Killing the filibuster in the US Senate would hardly "end the Republic". However, it surely would have ended if Trump had succeeded in his coup attempts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 23 hours ago, Backintheday544 said: I wouldn’t mind if he ran in 2024. He’s a twice impeached president who was easily beaten by a super old, not always there, terrible past candidate in Biden. Dems could run a sh*t sandwich in 2024 and beat Trump easily again. And Dems said no to the filibuster demands: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535197-democrats-shoot-down-mcconnells-filibuster-gambit The problem is that it's unlikely another CCP virus will hit in 2024. And if it does, it will hurt Joe this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 hours ago, Doc said: The problem is that it's unlikely another CCP virus will hit in 2024. And if it does, it will hurt Joe this time. I feel like this is the quote. Yes Trump is a child and moron, but any trumptard that thinks they are hurting Trump's adversary WHILE boosting trump is a double bonus of watching. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: I feel like this is the quote. Yes Trump is a child and moron, but any trumptard that thinks they are hurting Trump's adversary WHILE boosting trump is a double bonus of watching. My statement was mostly about how Trump was beaten by a senile moron like Joe only because of CCP virus. Joe is a one-termer, at best. I don't see Trump having much support in 2024 as a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Democrat Prospects of Convicting Trump in Senate Fade Away Associated Press, by Mary Clare Jalonick & Lisa Mascaro https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/01/25/democrat_prospects_of_convicting_trump_in_senate_fade_away_145115.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 If You Thought the First Impeachment Was a Circus, Just Wait for Impeachment 2.0. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/01/25/if-you-thought-the-first-impeachment-was-a-circus-just-wait-for-impeachment-2-0-n1409656 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: If You Thought the First Impeachment Was a Circus, Just Wait for Impeachment 2.0. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/01/25/if-you-thought-the-first-impeachment-was-a-circus-just-wait-for-impeachment-2-0-n1409656 Bored? ATOP no longer appealing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) Bill of Attainder = UNCONSTITIONAL. Trump is no longer the pres, so any attempt to try him by Congress is UNCONSTITIONAL. Edited January 26, 2021 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Wacka said: Bill of Attainder = UNCONSTITIONAL. Trump is no longer the pres, so any attempt to try him by Congress is UNCONSTITIONAL. How utterly absurd to even consider that a president has a constitutional right to commit crimes before leaving office and not be held accountable because there is not enough time to hold impeachment and conviction proceedings. This type of garbage is why honest, moral people hate lawyers. If this is the law then we need to immediately begin rewriting the Constitution and if we are going to let's go ahead and make many other needed changes: drastically limit the right to own guns, make it clear corporations are not people, make it clear money is not speech, enshrine people's control over their bodies, strengthen the separation of church and state. Conservatives are craven menaces to society. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, Wacka said: Bill of Attainder = UNCONSTITIONAL. Trump is no longer the pres, so any attempt to try him by Congress is UNCONSTITIONAL. But if they go ahead and impeach a former President then it stands to reason that any former President can and should face impeachment. Obama, are you seeing this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Backintheday544 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 McConnell drops filibuster guarantee in the new Senate rules: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mcconnell-renews-calls-filibuster-remain-after-2-dems-back-measure-n1255619 9 minutes ago, wnyguy said: But if they go ahead and impeach a former President then it stands to reason that any former President can and should face impeachment. Obama, are you seeing this? If Obama were to have done something that is an impeachable offense that occurred in his 8 years as President and it comes to light now, I don’t think anyone would have an issue of that. Republicans though love to use impeachment to just file up their base. They had many calls to impeach Obama during his actual Presidency and none were worth while. Hell, they are trying to impeach Biden already. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: McConnell drops filibuster guarantee in the new Senate rules: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mcconnell-renews-calls-filibuster-remain-after-2-dems-back-measure-n1255619 If Obama were to have done something that is an impeachable offense that occurred in his 8 years as President and it comes to light now, I don’t think anyone would have an issue of that. Republicans though love to use impeachment to just file up their base. They had many calls to impeach Obama during his actual Presidency and none were worth while. Hell, they are trying to impeach Biden already. Constitution Shmonstitution amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Told you. Vote was 55-45. History isn't judged in real time just because you can watch it live. No one cares about this sham needed to distract from Biden’s super plan (as in there isn't one) to take on the pAnDeMiC On 1/23/2021 at 3:39 PM, Big Blitz said: A few Rs will vote to impeach the other 46 will not and life goes on. But good luck to you all in your quest to not run against a guy in 2024 that you'd think should easily be beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Told you. Vote was 55-45. History isn't judged in real time just because you can watch it live. No one cares about this sham needed to distract from Biden’s super plan (as in there isn't one) to take on the pAnDeMiC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 Someone needs to be held accountable for January 6. There will be no forgive and forget - people died and numerous injured. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Told you. Vote was 55-45. History isn't judged in real time just because you can watch it live. No one cares about this sham needed to distract from Biden’s super plan (as in there isn't one) to take on the pAnDeMiC Yet they'll still go through with it because they just don't learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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