Don't care too much this week for breakdowns of the games.... Too much Lamar vs. Allen I predict.

[Billsfan1972]

All I want is good conditions Saturday as otherwise concerned with Jackson's legs. 

 

Would hate for a game decided by weather as that can affect the pass more and is Buffalo's strength.

 

Also expect a lot of Lamar vs. Allen talk and thus will stay off chat and watching talking heads too.

 

If "Lamar" wins could be incessant.😡

 

Decent weather, clean track and Go Bills.  

[teef]

thoughts.

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, teef said:

thoughts.

 

There isn't another thread talking about this....I promise.

[Jauronimo]

9 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

All I want is good conditions Saturday as otherwise concerned with Jackson's legs. 

 

Would hate for a game decided by weather as that can affect the pass more and is Buffalo's strength.

 

Also expect a lot of Lamar vs. Allen talk and thus will stay off chat and watching talking heads too.

 

If "Lamar" wins could be incessant.😡

 

Decent weather, clean track and Go Bills.  

You might want to make other plans for Saturday at 8:15.  I think there's going to be a lot of that garbage during the broadcast.  

[billsfan1959]

12 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

All I want is good conditions Saturday as otherwise concerned with Jackson's legs. 

 

Seeing that you are only concerned, as opposed to worried, I feel like you are making real progress.

[teef]

7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

There isn't another thread talking about this....I promise.

but this thread...this is unique.

[Billsfan1972]

8 minutes ago, teef said:

thoughts.

As if you care what I have to say.😜

 

There'll be way too much talk this week and this is one week I don't want to hear it.  

 

Mahomes/Allen yes

Lamar/Allen no 

 

And for some reason have to use Lamar's first name....

[K-9]

All the Allen/Jackson hype aside, this game boils down to how our O line handles their D line and pressure. I suspect Martindale will play man and bring the house like he did last year until Josh shows he can handle it, which he didn’t last year. Martindale is in for a surprise this year, though, because this isn’t the Josh Allen of last year and this isn’t the receiving group of last year, either. 

[Billsfan1972]

1 minute ago, teef said:

but this thread...this is unique.

I thought I'd make it easy for you to find me.....😜

[MPL]

Why wouldn't this be heavily discussed? Two quarterbacks from the same draft class who were both viewed by many as quarterbacks who wouldn't be successful in the NFL. One has a league MVP title and their first career playoff win, and the other is playing at an MVP level and just won their first playoff game. For both teams, the offense is almost entirely dependent on the QB. Good defenses aside, this game is about Allen vs. Jackson.

[teef]

2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

As if you care what I have to say.😜

 

There'll be way too much talk this week and this is one week I don't want to hear it.  

 

Mahomes/Allen yes

Lamar/Allen no 

 

And for some reason have to use Lamar's first name....

words.

[HOUSE]

Maybe we can talk about Field Goal kickers? I think we have the edge

[Billsfan1972]

5 minutes ago, MPL said:

Why wouldn't this be heavily discussed? Two quarterbacks from the same draft class who were both viewed by many as quarterbacks who wouldn't be successful in the NFL. One has a league MVP title and their first career playoff win, and the other is playing at an MVP level and just won their first playoff game. For both teams, the offense is almost entirely dependent on the QB. Good defenses aside, this game is about Allen vs. Jackson.

Agreed, just don't like that comparison and Mahomes/Allen is more apt.

 

Yes my bias and if Lamar "wins" will be a tough pill to swallow.

[Gugny]

19 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

You might want to make other plans for Saturday at 8:15.  I think there's going to be a lot of that garbage during the broadcast.  

 

I think Saturday might be the night that Collinsworth finally mask debates himself to death on air.

[4_kidd_4]

But are you nervous?

15 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I think Saturday might be the night that Collinsworth finally mask debates himself to death on air.

 

Fingers crossed!!

 

 

[Billsfan1972]

14 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

But are you nervous?

 

Fingers crossed!!

 

 

Nervous every week....  This is a different nervous.

 

Thanks for asking!!!

Just in case no one checked......😜

 

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/orchard-park/14127/daily-weather-forecast/2128285?day=6

 

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Orchard+Park+NY?canonicalCityId=ee333c09a3e84dfaac78cd3483c9fe1c55675d392bac701251e38852067a2b82

[MJS]

You don't like that they will be comparing the two QB's a lot? Why would they not? QB is by far the most important position on the field. Plus, they are both from the same draft class and both just won their first playoff game. If they DON'T talk about that they are not doing their jobs.

[ticketssince61]

3 hours ago, MPL said:

Why wouldn't this be heavily discussed? Two quarterbacks from the same draft class who were both viewed by many as quarterbacks who wouldn't be successful in the NFL. One has a league MVP title and their first career playoff win, and the other is playing at an MVP level and just won their first playoff game. For both teams, the offense is almost entirely dependent on the QB. Good defenses aside, this game is about Allen vs. Jackson.

 

I think the game is about the running attack vs. our rushing D

[MPL]

40 minutes ago, ticketssince61 said:

 

I think the game is about the running attack vs. our rushing D

 

I would argue that Jackson is the Ravens running attack. He had 1,000 yards this season. Defenses have to honor his ability as a runner, which creates more running lanes for the backs. 

[Billsfan1972]

2 hours ago, MJS said:

You don't like that they will be comparing the two QB's a lot? Why would they not? QB is by far the most important position on the field. Plus, they are both from the same draft class and both just won their first playoff game. If they DON'T talk about that they are not doing their jobs.

Because they are two different QB's and while as Buffalo fans I'm sure we're 95%+ in on Josh, a high % of Raven's fans would choose Lamar.

 

I don't think it is close......  But then (and always my nagging doubt) if the Raven's win it will be tough to listen to (there's have been no debate if it was Ben or Ryan this week).

 

Now Mahomes/Allen would be a fun debate.

 

 

[Nextmanup]

These 2 guys carried their teams on their backs to victory last weekend!

 

And you wonder why people want to talk about them?

 

They are 2 of the hottest 3 or 4 names in the league right now, and the league loves to promote its stars, as it should.

 

A huge problem for the NHL is that their stars do not stand out nearly enough with how the game is played these days.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

4 hours ago, MPL said:

Why wouldn't this be heavily discussed? Two quarterbacks from the same draft class who were both viewed by many as quarterbacks who wouldn't be successful in the NFL. One has a league MVP title and their first career playoff win, and the other is playing at an MVP level and just won their first playoff game. For both teams, the offense is almost entirely dependent on the QB. Good defenses aside, this game is about Allen vs. Jackson.

Exactly. Two teams that wouldn’t have made it out of the wild card round but for their QBs. Ravens and Bills drafted well, developed well, schemed well. Congrats to both clubs. 
Now go beat em. 

[Figster]

Myself personally OP, the AFC Divisional round of the playoffs has 3 out of 4  QB's coming out of the draft class of 2018. Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson. Different skill set, different adversities to conquer, and different paths leading up to where they are now. I think its interesting to see how the QB's from Allens draft class have developed and compete in the league and aginst each other in my humble opinion.

 

 

[Billsfan1972]

34 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Exactly. Two teams that wouldn’t have made it out of the wild card round but for their QBs. Ravens and Bills drafted well, developed well, schemed well. Congrats to both clubs. 
Now go beat em. 

And here is where we disagree about the QB's.  Jackson (and did not see every play) made maybe 3-4 great plays (two great runs & a pass), he put up 20 points against a below avg defense and threw a bad Int.

 

Allen made one boneheaded play, which could have cost them the game (and frankly Daboll made a terrible play call). Conversely he made 8-10 great plays.....

 

Diggs x 2, Davis x 2, Runs, Knox TD.....  He was hamstrung by terrible field position and some wonky play calling too.  

 

There were almost no gimme passes/completions the entire game.

 

Yes I'm biased.

[Dukestreetking]

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Exactly. Two teams that wouldn’t have made it out of the wild card round but for their QBs. Ravens and Bills drafted well, developed well, schemed well. Congrats to both clubs. 
Now go beat em. 

One like for content.

 

Wish I had another one just for screen name, which is a freakish triple pun.

 

Don't know why I didn't notice before; very unusual to see out here in nature.

[QLBillsFan]

6 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

All I want is good conditions Saturday as otherwise concerned with Jackson's legs. 

 

Would hate for a game decided by weather as that can affect the pass more and is Buffalo's strength.

 

Also expect a lot of Lamar vs. Allen talk and thus will stay off chat and watching talking heads too.

 

If "Lamar" wins could be incessant.😡

 

Decent weather, clean track and Go Bills.  

Wind is the concern. Slick track advantage O as they know where they are going. D has to react and the slips begin. 

[Billsfan1972]

Instead of a new thread, will try and resuscitate this one.....😜

 

Biggest concern was the weather and frankly that was a huge disadvantage to the Bills.  

 

Yep & said that on Monday....

 

Allen couldn't go long and the wind was a significant factor.  

 

Lamar had some great runs and eluded tackles too.

 

While no points the Bills when Lamar was sacked and three penalties had them second and 32 from the 1 and the Bills let up a bit, cost the Bills points. 

 

How they let them get an easy 12 yard gain & then a 20 yard one could have been the turning point.

Edited January 17, 2021 by Billsfan1972