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On 8/9/2021 at 8:55 PM, Chef Jim said:


This is why financial planning needs to be a requirement in high school. Not just investments…planning.  
 

 

i must say i was shocked when we gifted a small portfolio of stocks to our daughter upon her graduation from college, and she just had no clue really what they were, how they worked, what a 401K plan was etc. And that is on us, not the school.BTW, she went to a private school.

 

Guess we just assumed she would learn by osmosis hearing us talk about stocks, 401Ks etc...but we was wrong!

 

I guess only good thing is she back in school getting a nursing degree, and has agreed to have us help her with that kind of stuff when she actually gets of the teet and starts earning money!!!!!

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1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

i must say i was shocked when we gifted a small portfolio of stocks to our daughter upon her graduation from college, and she just had no clue really what they were, how they worked, what a 401K plan was etc. And that is on us, not the school.BTW, she went to a private school.

 

Guess we just assumed she would learn by osmosis hearing us talk about stocks, 401Ks etc...but we was wrong!

 

I guess only good thing is she back in school getting a nursing degree, and has agreed to have us help her with that kind of stuff when she actually gets of the teet and starts earning money!!!!!

So double college? Ouch.  

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13 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

So double college? Ouch.  

yep, knew that going in. Thank goodness good chunk of 4 year degree was covered by various means...and she is in accelerated 11 month BSN program at a state school, will work for two years, then her NP...good thing is she will be employable!!!!!!

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4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

yep, knew that going in. Thank goodness good chunk of 4 year degree was covered by various means...and she is in accelerated 11 month BSN program at a state school, will work for two years, then her NP...good thing is she will be employable!!!!!!

At least you knew.  And good for her, NPs do well for themselves!

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2 hours ago, LeviF said:

Minneapolis PD back to normal funding levels. 
 

It’s too late. I do find it hilarious that the experiment lasted all of a year. 


In LA they’ve taken the teeth out of the judicial system and we see the results today.  With things like no bail (bye bye suckers!!  I’m off to commit more crimes!) and increasing the amount for a crime to be anything more than a misdemeanor you quickly see the results.  LA County is a mess. 

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‘It’s Not Worth It’: HVAC Company Says It Will No Longer Service Customers in Downtown Denver

 

WHEAT RIDGE, Colo. (CBS4) – A Wheat Ridge-based heating and air conditioning company says it will no longer service businesses in or around downtown Denver due to crime, drug use and danger to its field crews.

 

"Its not really worth it to put up with it,” said Tony Cirbo, operations manager for AC Mechanical and Engineering. He said the company works up and down the Front Range with about 100 industrial and commercial clients.

 

But Cirbo said, after hearing from field crews who were “very nervous” working in parts of downtown, the company made the decision to turn down work requests from downtown Denver. Cirbo said the business decision was also due in part to the fact that the company only had two clients in downtown Denver.

 

But he said his crews complained about coming across needles, drug paraphernalia, feces and were concerned about theft.

 

“You don’t know what’s going to happen,” Cirbo said.

 

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2022/05/11/wheat-ridge-hvac-company-cancels-service-downtown-denver/

 

 

 

After police and sheriffs deputies left agencies in droves in 2021, Democratic leaders try to stem the tide

 

More law enforcement officers in Colorado left the profession in 2021 than in previous years — and sheriffs and police chiefs are struggling more than ever to fill the positions across the state.

 

More than 2,400 officers quit or were forced out of positions in 2021 and just over 1,700 officers were hired, according to data obtained by CPR News by Peace Officers Standards and Training under the Colorado Department of Law. 

 

https://www.cpr.org/2022/01/13/colorado-law-enforcement-hiring-attrition/

 

 

 

 

 

6-Month Experiment Replacing Denver Police With Mental Health Teams Dubbed A Success

 

A Denver city councilmember who supports defunding police weighs new success of replacing cops with mental health teams. Six months in, the team has responded to almost 750 calls, without one arrest.

 

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/08/974941422/6-month-experiment-replacing-denver-police-with-mental-health-teams-dubbed-a-suc

 

 

Sounds like there should have been.....lots of arrests.  

 

I guess the Councilman really needed to show how much the Democrats have "accomplished."

 

 

 

They're only getting crazier folks. 

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11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

‘It’s Not Worth It’: HVAC Company Says It Will No Longer Service Customers in Downtown Denver

 

WHEAT RIDGE, Colo. (CBS4) – A Wheat Ridge-based heating and air conditioning company says it will no longer service businesses in or around downtown Denver due to crime, drug use and danger to its field crews.

 

"Its not really worth it to put up with it,” said Tony Cirbo, operations manager for AC Mechanical and Engineering. He said the company works up and down the Front Range with about 100 industrial and commercial clients.

 

But Cirbo said, after hearing from field crews who were “very nervous” working in parts of downtown, the company made the decision to turn down work requests from downtown Denver. Cirbo said the business decision was also due in part to the fact that the company only had two clients in downtown Denver.

 

But he said his crews complained about coming across needles, drug paraphernalia, feces and were concerned about theft.

 

“You don’t know what’s going to happen,” Cirbo said.

 

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2022/05/11/wheat-ridge-hvac-company-cancels-service-downtown-denver/

 

 

 

After police and sheriffs deputies left agencies in droves in 2021, Democratic leaders try to stem the tide

 

More law enforcement officers in Colorado left the profession in 2021 than in previous years — and sheriffs and police chiefs are struggling more than ever to fill the positions across the state.

 

More than 2,400 officers quit or were forced out of positions in 2021 and just over 1,700 officers were hired, according to data obtained by CPR News by Peace Officers Standards and Training under the Colorado Department of Law. 

 

https://www.cpr.org/2022/01/13/colorado-law-enforcement-hiring-attrition/

 

 

 

 

 

6-Month Experiment Replacing Denver Police With Mental Health Teams Dubbed A Success

 

A Denver city councilmember who supports defunding police weighs new success of replacing cops with mental health teams. Six months in, the team has responded to almost 750 calls, without one arrest.

 

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/08/974941422/6-month-experiment-replacing-denver-police-with-mental-health-teams-dubbed-a-suc

 

 

Sounds like there should have been.....lots of arrests.  

 

I guess the Councilman really needed to show how much the Democrats have "accomplished."

 

 

 

They're only getting crazier folks. 

Is the suggestion that 100% of the time, police officers arrest and incarcerate the drunk and disorderly guy, or the guy with no shoes?  75% of the time?   15%?

 

I think the police would be completely behind the outsourcing of mental health issues to non-police associates.   Domestic disputes as well.  In spite of the narrative, I think the overwhelming majority of law enforcement professionals want to do their job, help some folks out, and go the &$** home without being shot, stabbed, spit on or cursed at, and do so without shooting or taxing anyone. 
 

 

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On 5/11/2022 at 7:27 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Is the suggestion that 100% of the time, police officers arrest and incarcerate the drunk and disorderly guy, or the guy with no shoes?  75% of the time?   15%?

 

I think the police would be completely behind the outsourcing of mental health issues to non-police associates.   Domestic disputes as well.  In spite of the narrative, I think the overwhelming majority of law enforcement professionals want to do their job, help some folks out, and go the &$** home without being shot, stabbed, spit on or cursed at, and do so without shooting or taxing anyone. 
 

 

Agreed, except on the domestic issues. Police need to go to those because of the potential for violence. Those tend to escalate fast.

 

In reference to that article, it sounds like that response team only went to the types of calls where an officer wouldn't arrest anyone anyway.

 

I don't think most people really understand the restraint that most cops have. I was on a police ride-along once where we pulled over a vehicle at midnight. It was originally for driving with no headlights, but then as we approached it the vehicle started speeding, 20+ mph over the limit. We followed and the car eventually pulled into a gas station lot. The officer approached the driver's window and the subject started screaming at the officer (hoenstly, it seemed like he may have been high). Then he put his hands on the shifter and steering wheel like he was about to drive away, so the officer reached in, grabbed his hands and pulled him out the window, all the while the guy is fighting the officer. So the officer cuffed him and stuck him in the back seat, waited 20 minutes for the guy to calm down, had a good talk with him, and then sent him on his way with a ticket. No arrest.

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