Big Turk Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) I love it!! I would rather give up a big play or two then let wide open receivers catch balls all over the field on us due to zero pressure and the QB having all day to throw. “We’ve figured out something that we believe is working, and been a lot more aggressive these last couple of weeks, so we’re staying with it,” safety Jordan Poyer said. https://pro32.ap.org/article/wrs-diggs-hopkins-turn-bills-and-cards-must-see-tv Edited November 13, 2020 by matter2003 7 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I love it!! I would rather give up a big play or two then let wide open receivers catch balls all over the field on us due to zero pressure and the QB having all day to throw. “We’ve figured out something that we believe is working, and been a lot more aggressive these last couple of weeks, so we’re staying with it,” safety Jordan Poyer said. https://pro32.ap.org/article/wrs-diggs-hopkins-turn-bills-and-cards-must-see-tv Nice story by Wawrow in that link, worth a read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) Its a smoke screen..., a plot, a diversion, a trick, a mind game, will they do it? Or won’t they do it, it’s psychological warfare my friends, and Tua is the victim! Sorry, got in a free relating loop there ... 😁 but still, it could be true... Go Bills !!! Edited November 13, 2020 by Don Otreply 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I feel that it really worked vs Seattle because they refused to throw screens. Chase Edmunds is a little dynamo on screens. It’s gonna be interesting to see if we can contain their run game (rbs and Murray). Collapsing the pocket while filling their lanes is going to be the key to the game imo. Other than scoring points Hopefully they found what they were looking for. We confused RW. Kyler has been known to throw some bad passes. Let’s keep this Trent going. Contain Murray in the pocket and we might dominate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I feel that it really worked vs Seattle because they refused to throw screens. Chase Edmunds is a little dynamo on screens. It’s gonna be interesting to see if we can contain their run game (rbs and Murray). Collapsing the pocket while filling their lanes is going to be the key to the game imo. Other than scoring points Hopefully they found what they were looking for. We confused RW. Kyler has been known to throw some bad passes. Let’s keep this Trent going. Contain Murray in the pocket and we might dominate Murray is great at throwing from the pocket(6th best in the NFL) but terrible at throwing on the run or outside the pocket(2nd worst in the NFL)...we need to force him to throw while moving and not let him just stand around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Excellent article! Nice to read some monster articles again on the Bills......it has been a long long long time. GO BILLS!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: Its a smoke screen..., a plot, a diversion, a trick, a mind game, will they do it? Or won’t they do it, it’s psychological warfare my friends, and Tua is the victim! Sorry, got in a free relating loop there ... 😁 but still, it could be true... Go Bills !!! Yup. Just like last week when Poyer said we were going to run the ball all day at the league's worst passing defense. Carroll took the bait hook, line, and sinker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) We’ve figured out something that we believe is working, and been a lot more aggressive these last couple of weeks, so we’re staying with it,” safety Jordan Poyer said. Edited November 13, 2020 by HOUSE 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Murray is great at throwing from the pocket(6th best in the NFL) but terrible at throwing on the run or outside the pocket(2nd worst in the NFL)...we need to force him to throw while moving and not let him just stand around. I think part of it is - kingsbury will scheme up a short passing game if you let him. So you have to play more aggressive than a traditional quarters/cover 3 McD defense. They've had some success with the zone blitz last week, as well as playing around with some 46 bear concepts. Murray hasn't been a particularly efficient 3rd down passer, but his legs definitely can hurt you. I'd probably rather have him passing short of the sticks than running around causing problems. So my guess would be pressure looks on early downs to try and stop the run, and try get into 3rd and long type situations. On those situations - sit on the routes at the sticks and spy murray. Doing all this will result in a couple big plays - likely screens or 50/50 balls to hopkins. But it helps prevent teams just running it down our throats as they have all season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewEra Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Murray is great at throwing from the pocket(6th best in the NFL) but terrible at throwing on the run or outside the pocket(2nd worst in the NFL)...we need to force him to throw while moving and not let him just stand around. There’s 2 sides to that. He’s also on pace for over 1000 yards rushing. While we want to get him moving so he’s forced to throw on the run.....we don’t want to get him moving so he can take off and run. We need to keep him contained. If he gets out of containment, we have to get to him quickly. I can’t recall McD ever using a lb or safety to spy the qb. I think he’s rather use the spy as a blitzer. Either way, Murray is a tough one to deal with. Hopefully we can confuse him and force him into TO’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Yup. Just like last week when Poyer said we were going to run the ball all day at the league's worst passing defense. Carroll took the bait hook, line, and sinker. Wait, last week when Poyer said what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wait, last week when Poyer said what? LAST WEEK WHEN POYER SAID "WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE BALL ALL DAY LONG!!" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: LAST WEEK WHEN POYER SAID "WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE BALL ALL DAY LONG!!" Oh, I get it, you're such a jokester guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, NewEra said: There’s 2 sides to that. He’s also on pace for over 1000 yards rushing. While we want to get him moving so he’s forced to throw on the run.....we don’t want to get him moving so he can take off and run. We need to keep him contained. If he gets out of containment, we have to get to him quickly. I can’t recall McD ever using a lb or safety to spy the qb. I think he’s rather use the spy as a blitzer. Either way, Murray is a tough one to deal with. Hopefully we can confuse him and force him into TO’s Sensei - "Sweep the leg" Bills- "YES SENSEI" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, NewEra said: I feel that it really worked vs Seattle because they refused to throw screens. Chase Edmunds is a little dynamo on screens. It’s gonna be interesting to see if we can contain their run game (rbs and Murray). Collapsing the pocket while filling their lanes is going to be the key to the game imo. Other than scoring points Hopefully they found what they were looking for. We confused RW. Kyler has been known to throw some bad passes. Let’s keep this Trent going. Contain Murray in the pocket and we might dominate The Bills defense is almost designed to stop a one dimensional passing attack. The team has a good pass rush when it isn't being run on, the secondary is good and the team can blitz with Poyer and Edumonds (and apparently Klein) from the second level. The Bills offense scoring on the first two drives and the Carson injury forced Seattle to be one dimensional and that feed into the Bills strenghts. It was a truly great match up for the Bills. Hopefully the gameflow goes similar against AZ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I also look for there to be a lot of squawking around here when the Bills blitzers are emphasizing a contain technique like they employed against Cam Newton to move him off his spot but keep him moving parallel to the LOS. Not necessarily looking for sacks but defending the QB's legs and forcing him to make decisions and deliveries on the move and with only one eye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, matter2003 said: I love it!! I would rather give up a big play or two then let wide open receivers catch balls all over the field on us due to zero pressure and the QB having all day to throw. “We’ve figured out something that we believe is working, and been a lot more aggressive these last couple of weeks, so we’re staying with it,” safety Jordan Poyer said. https://pro32.ap.org/article/wrs-diggs-hopkins-turn-bills-and-cards-must-see-tv I love it too. You can tell the difference lately especially in the last game. Man, even if they don’t get back to last year‘s form, if they could peak at the right time, watch out! Edited November 13, 2020 by BillsFan619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The Bills defense is almost designed to stop a one dimensional passing attack. The team has a good pass rush when it isn't being run on, the secondary is good and the team can blitz with Poyer and Edumonds (and apparently Klein) from the second level. The Bills offense scoring on the first two drives and the Carson injury forced Seattle to be one dimensional and that feed into the Bills strenghts. It was a truly great match up for the Bills. Hopefully the gameflow goes similar against AZ. 💯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The Bills defense is almost designed to stop a one dimensional passing attack. The team has a good pass rush when it isn't being run on, the secondary is good and the team can blitz with Poyer and Edumonds (and apparently Klein) from the second level. The Bills offense scoring on the first two drives and the Carson injury forced Seattle to be one dimensional and that feed into the Bills strenghts. It was a truly great match up for the Bills. Hopefully the gameflow goes similar against AZ. Your absolutely right about this and most teams will abandon the run if you jump out on them. That’s why when you look back at the rams game how impressive that was to stick with the run while down so many points if they would of forgot about the run no way they climb back in that game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, 97bills said: Your absolutely right about this and most teams will abandon the run if you jump out on them. That’s why when you look back at the rams game how impressive that was to stick with the run while down so many points if they would of forgot about the run no way they climb back in that game Ironically the reason the Rams came back from a huge deficit to take the lead and almost win is because they DIDN'T abandon the run and kept gashing us in the run game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, 97bills said: Your absolutely right about this and most teams will abandon the run if you jump out on them. That’s why when you look back at the rams game how impressive that was to stick with the run while down so many points if they would of forgot about the run no way they climb back in that game I was very impressed by McVay in the Rams game, they did get a lucky call to get that BS Int but the Bills got a call at the end too. I think the Bills need to recieve the ball to start games and hope the offense can put up 7 to set the pace favorably 0n defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I believe the Bills D has to be "very aggressive" for the balance of the season. After what we've seen for the 1st part of 2020 they can't sit back and try to play a straight up game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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