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2 minutes ago, DallasMac said:

They were running the ball extremely well without Cook.  Have zero issue with the call and after seeing the Seatle drive do you really think they wouldnt of been able to get the 2 pt conversion.   You have a yard to get and the game is done.  If you cant trust your offense to get that idk what to say.


I don’t know. 8 point lead is pretty air tight. At a min, you go to OT. 

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He’s gonna take a lot of heat, but I still like that Zimmer went for it.  Half a yard and you were stuffing it down their throats.  But hey that’s life man.  Gotta be able to live with the consequences. I bet Zimmer would do the same thing if given the chance and I bet all/most of his players have his back.  

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

He’s gonna take a lot of heat, but I still like that Zimmer went for it.  Half a yard and you were stuffing it down their throats.  But hey that’s life man.  Gotta be able to live with the consequences. I bet Zimmer would do the same thing if given the chance and I bet all/most of his players have his back.  

I agree but I didn’t like the third down call.

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17 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

If they gained 1 yard the game was over. You don't give Russell Wilson the chance to drive for a game winning TD, as we just saw. I just didn"t like the decision to run it there. Give your QB the ball and let him pick up a yard.

 

But it wasnt a game winning drive.. at best it was a game tie-ing drive subject to them making  the 2 ...

 

I know the Bills havent stopped a 2 point conversion seemingly for the last 5 years but other teams can make them a 50-50 proposition

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


I don’t know. 8 point lead is pretty air tight. At a min, you go to OT. 

I truly dont think there was a wrong choice.  If he played it safe and kicks the fg i wouldve understood.  Im just saying that with the way they were running the ball i have absolutely no problem with them trusting the O to gain a yard.  And also believing that if they didnt get it that the D could prevent a td. 

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Anyone saying they should have kicked the FG either is results oriented or just doesn't know better. It's a no brainier that you go for it and end the game. Terrible play call. They had to go 6 inches. QB sneak is pretty close to 100% in that spot. 

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15 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

But it wasnt a game winning drive.. at best it was a game tie-ing drive subject to them making  the 2 ...

 

True I realized that after I made my post. Still, you need to get 1 yard and the game is over. Even if you get stopped your defense has to hold a 94 yard TD drive. I'd want my coach to go for the win there every time... Then again we are spoiled with Josh Allen as our QB. 4th and 1 is practically automatic for him.

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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

True I realized that after I made my post. Still, you need to get 1 yard and the game is over. Even if you get stopped your defense has to hold a 94 yard TD drive. I'd want my coach to go for the win there every time... Then again we are spoiled with Josh Allen as our QB. 4th and 1 is practically automatic for him.

 

Fair enough.. I can see this point of view too that you QB sneak and get it than the game is over..

 

Would love to know the sliding windows of how the game turns out if they go 8 points up though.. even if they score, they need to make the 2 ( which they missed) and then its OT where the Vikes had been moving the ball pretty well on Seattle most of the game...... 

 

Anyway.. I guess this is why we watch the games until the end and its easy to make the call at home with beer in hand and no consequences for getting it wrong!

 

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38 minutes ago, Process said:

Anyone saying they should have kicked the FG either is results oriented or just doesn't know better. It's a no brainier that you go for it and end the game. Terrible play call. They had to go 6 inches. QB sneak is pretty close to 100% in that spot. 

They went from the 50 to the 6 without throwing once.  The play was there to be made but it wasnt executed.  

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6 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Players and coaches around the league are still disregarding the NFL protocols for postgame interactions. It's so strange. Even after Mahomes apologized for it, you still see most of his teammates interacting with opposing players and staff after the game.

 

If they had made some Titans players forfeit their salaries the players would know that there is teeth in protocols.

I hope every player playing Titans think Stomp the Titans is Stomping out COVID19.  The Buffalo News used to include in paper signs like "Stomp the Titans",.

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1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said:

The Bills and their fans have zero reason to fear any of their upcoming opponents. The can beat any or all of them.

This is absolutely true they are capable of beating any team they go up against. That is not to say their aren't tough teams that might beat them, any given Sunday, but they can beat all of them.

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2 hours ago, Process said:

Anyone saying they should have kicked the FG either is results oriented or just doesn't know better. It's a no brainier that you go for it and end the game. Terrible play call. They had to go 6 inches. QB sneak is pretty close to 100% in that spot. 

Kirk Cousins is puny man.  He no get one yard 

Small and weak. He no Josh Allen

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5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

@GunnerBill boy Thielen killing it for me in fantasy last couple of weeks...

 

Glad he doesn’t appear to be too slowed down by the loss of Diggs...👍

 

He had a great game last night Thielen. I have never been anti-Thielen. I just always thought Diggs was the more talented of the two guys and the way teams defended the Vikings pass game the past 2 or 3 years suggested they agreed. But Thielen is a top 10, top 12 receiver. He has some of the best body control in the NFL and he showed it again tonight with his backing into the endzone touchdown.

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Overall thoughts on SNF....

 

1. The Vikings actually had a great gameplan. The weakness of this Seattle team is the trenches. The Vikings won up front on both sides and tried to make it a physical football game. The problem when you do that is that you have to be perfect and once they started making mistakes - especially with penalties on the Oline (the right guard in particular was terrible he could have been called for holding on almost every snap 2nd half) - they let Seattle back in.

 

2. Russ can only cook if they can keep him clean. The offensive line has taken a backward step from last year. Yes Lockett and Metcalf are great and they can get quick separation but the line needs to hold up.

 

3. Delvin Cook might be the best running back in the NFL. The problem is keeping him healthy.

 

4. The 4th down call at the end..... I get it.... convert and the game is over.... but fail to get it and the game is also over (not in a good way). I'd have kicked the field goal. Maybe that is playing not to lose but I don't want Russell Wilson having 2 minutes to go 95 yards against me knowing a touchdown beats me.

 

5. Adam Thielen was outstanding. Even in an offense where he is basically the only outside receiver to cover he still ate. I think the problem is the skill position players they do have don't necessarily suit the way Cousins plays. He wants to roll out and get on the edge but this Minnesota offense should be an "in to out" offense. Feed Jefferson and your two tight ends more - they can make plays. I know they did get Jefferson the ball some last week where he ran some over routes from out of the slot (one of his signature plays at LSU) but I think they need to do a better job of working inside.

 

6. Bobby Wagner and KJ Wright don't get enough credit. They were overshadowed for years by the legion of boom but they are truly great football players. I can make a case for both getting HoF consideration when all is said and done.

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7 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

He’s gonna take a lot of heat, but I still like that Zimmer went for it.  Half a yard and you were stuffing it down their throats.  But hey that’s life man.  Gotta be able to live with the consequences. I bet Zimmer would do the same thing if given the chance and I bet all/most of his players have his back.  

 

Probably the worst decision made by a coach all year so far.  You go up by 8 with under two minutes against Wilson all day long.  Make him score twice to TIE the game.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Probably the worst decision made by a coach all year so far.  You go up by 8 with under two minutes against Wilson all day long.  Make him score twice to TIE the game.

 

I agree, even if the “chart” says differently.  You eliminate the regulation time loss and give your D a chance to make a play to seal the win.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Probably the worst decision made by a coach all year so far.  You go up by 8 with under two minutes against Wilson all day long.  Make him score twice to TIE the game.

 

That was my feeling too. I know the maths probably disagrees, likelihood of getting 1 yard etc... but in my head if I go for it I am giving myself one way to win the game. I have to get it. If I kick the FG I am giving myself a chance to win the game by stopping the 2 pointer and even if I fail both the worst I have is OT. Maybe that is playing not to lose, I don't know but it just felt instantly like the wrong call to me.

 

2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I agree, even if the “chart” says differently.  You eliminate the regulation time loss and give your D a chance to make a play to seal the win.

 

If @Mr. WEO, @eball and myself are all in agreement (I reckon that happens pretty rarely) then I think this proves they shoulda kicked the FG :)

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