WTF

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Taro T said:

 

Really.  DR was that well known right winger TGregg & GreggyT.

 

Sad to see what was an "ol buddy" get lost down that Q hole. I hope he can find his way out of that mess.

 

Social Media will be the downfall of mankind.

[3rdnlng]

7 minutes ago, meazza said:

That’s why we called it Greg’s stashes.

Greg was always stashing something that didn't really belong in the threads he did the stashing in and he wanted to read it later. I started the Greg's Stashes thread more as a post- all thread for miscellaneous stuff. It's turned into a thread that actually helps keep other threads on course (sure).

[LB3]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Sad to see what was an "ol buddy" get lost down that Q hole. I hope he can find his way out of that mess.

 

Social Media will be the downfall of mankind.

Greg was harping on the Deep State well before Q.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, LB3 said:

Greg was harping on the Deep State well before Q.

 

That doesnt make the psychotic break any better.

[LB3]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That doesnt make the psychotic break any better.

He was doing a lot of personal first hand research. You can call it what to you want.

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Sad to see what was an "ol buddy" get lost down that Q hole. I hope he can find his way out of that mess.

 

Social Media will be the downfall of mankind.

 

It wasn't social media that took him down that road.  It was researching a project he was working on that had him speaking w/ a bunch of MI types which then morphed into a desire to try to prove 45 was colluding with Russian intelligence.

 

Only problem was, along the way, he found out it wasn't 45's team that was colluding with the Russians.  He was 3 years ahead of info that's been getting made public through declassifications & the like.  He's caught a tremendous amount of flack for his takes the past 3 years.  Thing is, in Russiagate & Spygate he's actually been shown to be far more right than wrong.

 

He still has his wild alien conspiracies too, but he was correct about a lot of stuff on this.  Not all of it, but a lot of it.  And if you look at the testimony that people gave under oath to the HSCI regarding Russian collusion versus what they say when not under oath on the cable news shows, he really has been a truly valuable resource.  He's still the same good guy he was when he was voting for 44, but he's seen a lot of stuff we haven't had access to.

 

(Sorry for the rambling response.  This board lost a very good asset when Greg was sent to the sidelines.)

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Taro T said:

 

(Sorry for the rambling response.  This board lost a very good asset when Greg was sent to the sidelines.)

 

I hope this break gives him an opportunity to get his head on straight.

[Westside]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That doesnt make the psychotic break any better.

I've always enjoyed your takes, I think you're a smart poster and a good person. But, I have to disagree with you on this. I don't believe DR had a psychotic break or anything like that. If you really want to see what a real break looks like, look at the radical left the last four years. I was a lifelong democrat who left the party because the party left me. DR has always been a good guy, he was respectful, patient and willing to admit when he's wrong. The numerous trolls who sprouted up the last few months were after him like a pack of hyenas. Everything he posted, they mocked, ridiculed and just kept it up.

I haven't seen you down here too much in PPP. Don't believe what these trolls are saying about him. This board has lost a good source who knew what he was talking about. It's sad some people in charge just can't see that.

[Paulus]

39 minutes ago, The Guy In Pants said:

 

Well; just think about what some people do outside of the internet. I mean; we are talking sincere mental illness here. Not only are they mostly incapable of functioning in a normal society; they have no control over their emotions and often reside outside the realm of reality mentally. The worst part about it is; these types are in positions of influence with education and entertainment. Never in my life, have I ever witnessed so many people sit around and pointing the finger and blaming others for the very stuff they do. 
 

So; I’m less concerned about a message board than I am of the real world but I understand what you mean. We have a mental illness problem in this country. It’s already made it’s way through most of the rest of the world and thanks to complacency; it’s now here. 
 

Don’t engage them. It gives them the feeing that they’re somehow more important than you and that they’re affecting your life. Engage with the normal ones who can carry on an adult conversation without stroking out.

Yeah, I agree. But, raiding is nothing new. The fact is, what we say on the Interwebs is REAL LIFE, to the extent we are saying it on the Interwebs. These are places of great influence, and political activists have and will continue to group together to raid website they deem "enemy territory." 

 

Don't engage them, but recognize the very real possibility that these are trolls from a leftist tranny discord or some other group known for raiding.

[Westside]

6 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

It wasn't social media that took him down that road.  It was researching a project he was working on that had him speaking w/ a bunch of MI types which then morphed into a desire to try to prove 45 was colluding with Russian intelligence.

 

Only problem was, along the way, he found out it wasn't 45's team that was colluding with the Russians.  He was 3 years ahead of info that's been getting made public through declassifications & the like.  He's caught a tremendous amount of flack for his takes the past 3 years.  Thing is, in Russiagate & Spygate he's actually been shown to be far more right than wrong.

 

He still has his wild alien conspiracies too, but he was correct about a lot of stuff on this.  Not all of it, but a lot of it.  And if you look at the testimony that people gave under oath to the HSCI regarding Russian collusion versus what they say when not under oath on the cable news shows, he really has been a truly valuable resource.  He's still the same good guy he was when he was voting for 44, but he's seen a lot of stuff we haven't had access to.

 

(Sorry for the rambling response.  This board lost a very good asset when Greg was sent to the sidelines.)

You said it much better than I did. Good job.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

1 minute ago, Paulus said:

Don't engage them, but recognize the very real possibility that these are trolls from a leftist tranny discord or some other group known for raiding.

 

Ah yes - another great conspiracy

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Yeah, I agree. But, raiding is nothing new. The fact is, what we say on the Interwebs is REAL LIFE, to the extent we are saying it on the Interwebs. These are places of great influence, and political activists have and will continue to group together to raid website they deem "enemy territory." 

 

Don't engage them, but recognize the very real possibility that these are trolls from a leftist tranny discord or some other group known for raiding.

Can you identify “a leftist tranny discord ... known for raiding?”  Or is that just another hoax?  

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, westside2 said:

I've always enjoyed your takes, I think you're a smart poster and a good person. But, I have to disagree with you on this. I don't believe DR had a psychotic break or anything like that. DR has always been a good guy, he was respectful, patient and willing to admit when he's wrong.

I haven't seen you down here too much in PPP. Don't believe what these trolls are saying about him. This board has lost a good source who knew what he was talking about. It's sad some people in charge just can't see that.

 

The poster known as DR was not the tgregg I knew and spoke with for years. I even engaged him recently in his Q thread, not knowing it was tgregg, but just interested in what the PPPs Q-leader had to say. It was pretty much as expected, and all the typical Q garbage.

 

I dont need to read what any other person says about him. I got to experience it for myself.

 

I hope he gets help.

 

You are right, I dont spend too much time down here. The front page showed a preview of a thread titled "Banned Usernames", and I clicked since that is a pretty intriguing thread title. Especially when it shows that SDS started it. I thought it was going to be about not being able to use handles like "deez nutts" or something, lol. Instead it lead down here and I got sucked into reading all this message board drama from a bunch of grown ass adults. Was surprised to see the reference to Tgreg and had to ask. I got my answer. So I'm going to bow the eff out of this basement and leave you all to it. See you on the main board. Go Bills.

 

[Paulus]

8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Can you identify “a leftist tranny discord ... known for raiding?”  Or is that just another hoax?  

It's tagged under "tranny." Go see for yourself.

 

I dont think you're part of it, and believe you may actually be a Bills' fan. 

[meazza]

16 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I hope this break gives him an opportunity to get his head on straight.

 

I had a lot of discussions with gregs over the years and he's probably one of the genuine good guys out there and I personally thought he got in too deep.

 

That being said, aside from taking a step back and realizing you' need to think about other stuff, has he really been wrong?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

18 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

It wasn't social media that took him down that road.  It was researching a project he was working on that had him speaking w/ a bunch of MI types which then morphed into a desire to try to prove 45 was colluding with Russian intelligence.

 

Only problem was, along the way, he found out it wasn't 45's team that was colluding with the Russians.  He was 3 years ahead of info that's been getting made public through declassifications & the like.  He's caught a tremendous amount of flack for his takes the past 3 years.  Thing is, in Russiagate & Spygate he's actually been shown to be far more right than wrong.

 

He still has his wild alien conspiracies too, but he was correct about a lot of stuff on this.  Not all of it, but a lot of it.  And if you look at the testimony that people gave under oath to the HSCI regarding Russian collusion versus what they say when not under oath on the cable news shows, he really has been a truly valuable resource.  He's still the same good guy he was when he was voting for 44, but he's seen a lot of stuff we haven't had access to.

 

(Sorry for the rambling response.  This board lost a very good asset when Greg was sent to the sidelines.)

You nailed it. 
 

With the declass today, DR was proven correct about Brennan, Clinton and Obama. He was minimum 2 years ahead on this, and now would be a good time for the nudniks who tossed bombs his way to man up and acknowledge same. 
 

It’s not going to happen, but it should. 

[Capco]

I liked DR but he was a textbook conspiracy theorist.  

 

I had about half a dozen lengthy conversations with him intermittently.  He was always cordial and considerate but still had a snarky streak that would come out when pressed on certain issues (but we all have that to some degree).  

 

In one of our last conversations, he told me that Q is not a "source" after I questioned Q's credibility as a source.  About 10 posts earlier he claimed Q was a good source to someone else, and I called him on the flip-flop.  His subsequent explanation for these mental gymnastics was lackluster at best.  

 

That's where his problem was.  He would obtain these genuine nuggets of truth and then apply mental gymnastics to reach conclusions he was biased towards believing.  

 

I echo @DrDawkinstein's sentiment that the guy needs some help.  Professional, medical help.  I really hope he gets it because I do believe he has a good heart with good intentions.  He's just really off into the deep end right now.  

[New Improved DC Tom]

34 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

It wasn't social media that took him down that road.  It was researching a project he was working on that had him speaking w/ a bunch of MI types which then morphed into a desire to try to prove 45 was colluding with Russian intelligence.

 

Only problem was, along the way, he found out it wasn't 45's team that was colluding with the Russians.  He was 3 years ahead of info that's been getting made public through declassifications & the like.  He's caught a tremendous amount of flack for his takes the past 3 years.  Thing is, in Russiagate & Spygate he's actually been shown to be far more right than wrong.

 

He still has his wild alien conspiracies too, but he was correct about a lot of stuff on this.  Not all of it, but a lot of it.  And if you look at the testimony that people gave under oath to the HSCI regarding Russian collusion versus what they say when not under oath on the cable news shows, he really has been a truly valuable resource.  He's still the same good guy he was when he was voting for 44, but he's seen a lot of stuff we haven't had access to.

 

(Sorry for the rambling response.  This board lost a very good asset when Greg was sent to the sidelines.)

 

Can confirm this.

 

In fact, his information predated even Trump's nomination, and he didn't believe it when he initially started digging in to it.  I have email exchanges from 2015 with him on the subject.  He was wrll ahead of social media and even Q on the subject.

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, Capco said:

I liked DR but he was a textbook conspiracy theorist.  

 

I had about half a dozen lengthy conversations with him intermittently.  He was always cordial and considerate but still had a snarky streak that would come out when pressed on certain issues (but we all have that to some degree).  

 

In one of our last conversations, he told me that Q is not a "source" after I questioned Q's credibility as a source.  About 10 posts earlier he claimed Q was a good source to someone else, and I called him on the flip-flop.  His subsequent explanation for these mental gymnastics was lackluster at best.  

 

That's where his problem was.  He would obtain these genuine nuggets of truth and then apply mental gymnastics to reach conclusions he was biased towards believing.  

 

I echo @DrDawkinstein's sentiment that the guy needs some help.  Professional, medical help.  I really hope he gets it because I do believe he has a good heart with good intentions.  He's just really off into the deep end right now.  

I don't know about what you just claimed, but he has been ahead of the curve when it comes to the russian hoax. If you took time to read the latest documents that have been declassified, you would know he was telling the truth.

[Capco]

3 minutes ago, westside2 said:

I don't know about what you just claimed, but he has been ahead of the curve when it comes to the russian hoax. If you took time to read the latest documents that have been declassified, you would know he was telling the truth.

 

As I said, he would obtain nuggets of genuine truth but then draw outlandish conclusions.  I'm still waiting for the Clinton circle to go to jail. 

 

I liked speaking with him because he made me think about things, but never once did I get the feeling that he might be on to something.  There are certain beliefs he held that simply made his commentary indigestible at times.  His inability to reconcile the discrepancies I would point out did not help his cause either.  

 

"Question everything."  DR would be one of the first people to tell you that.  So I applied that to him and his commentary, and he often failed the test.  

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

As I said, he would obtain nuggets of genuine truth but then draw outlandish conclusions.  I'm still waiting for the Clinton circle to go to jail. 

 

I liked speaking with him because he made me think about things, but never once did I get the feeling that he might be on to something.  There are certain beliefs he held that simply made his commentary indigestible at times.  His inability to reconcile the discrepancies I would point out did not help his cause either.  

 

"Question everything."  DR would be one of the first people to tell you that.  So I applied that to him and his commentary, and he often failed the test.  

Have you had the chance to read the declassified documents that have been coming out? Don't believe DR, just read the documents and make up your own mind.

[Capco]

2 minutes ago, westside2 said:

Have you had the chance to read the declassified documents that have been coming out? Don't believe DR, just read the documents and make up your own mind.

 

No.  I'm kind of busy with law school and all that jazz.  But if you care to share one of these recent documents I might be able to read it in my (very small amount of) free time and get back to you.  

 

Not trying to give you the go around.  Honestly my free time is very limited and I'd rather spend it on other things, but I'm always open to learning more about the shitshow that is the current world.  

[3rdnlng]

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

It wasn't social media that took him down that road.  It was researching a project he was working on that had him speaking w/ a bunch of MI types which then morphed into a desire to try to prove 45 was colluding with Russian intelligence.

 

Only problem was, along the way, he found out it wasn't 45's team that was colluding with the Russians.  He was 3 years ahead of info that's been getting made public through declassifications & the like.  He's caught a tremendous amount of flack for his takes the past 3 years.  Thing is, in Russiagate & Spygate he's actually been shown to be far more right than wrong.

 

He still has his wild alien conspiracies too, but he was correct about a lot of stuff on this.  Not all of it, but a lot of it.  And if you look at the testimony that people gave under oath to the HSCI regarding Russian collusion versus what they say when not under oath on the cable news shows, he really has been a truly valuable resource.  He's still the same good guy he was when he was voting for 44, but he's seen a lot of stuff we haven't had access to.

 

(Sorry for the rambling response.  This board lost a very good asset when Greg was sent to the sidelines.)

Not rambling, well said. 

1 hour ago, westside2 said:

I've always enjoyed your takes, I think you're a smart poster and a good person. But, I have to disagree with you on this. I don't believe DR had a psychotic break or anything like that. If you really want to see what a real break looks like, look at the radical left the last four years. I was a lifelong democrat who left the party because the party left me. DR has always been a good guy, he was respectful, patient and willing to admit when he's wrong. The numerous trolls who sprouted up the last few months were after him like a pack of hyenas. Everything he posted, they mocked, ridiculed and just kept it up.

I haven't seen you down here too much in PPP. Don't believe what these trolls are saying about him. This board has lost a good source who knew what he was talking about. It's sad some people in charge just can't see that.

Well said also.

[SoTier]

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

It wasn't social media that took him down that road.  It was researching a project he was working on that had him speaking w/ a bunch of MI types which then morphed into a desire to try to prove 45 was colluding with Russian intelligence.

 

Only problem was, along the way, he found out it wasn't 45's team that was colluding with the Russians.  He was 3 years ahead of info that's been getting made public through declassifications & the like.  He's caught a tremendous amount of flack for his takes the past 3 years.  Thing is, in Russiagate & Spygate he's actually been shown to be far more right than wrong.

 

He still has his wild alien conspiracies too, but he was correct about a lot of stuff on this.  Not all of it, but a lot of it.  And if you look at the testimony that people gave under oath to the HSCI regarding Russian collusion versus what they say when not under oath on the cable news shows, he really has been a truly valuable resource.  He's still the same good guy he was when he was voting for 44, but he's seen a lot of stuff we haven't had access to.

 

(Sorry for the rambling response.  This board lost a very good asset when Greg was sent to the sidelines.)

 

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.

You have no clue. He found a barrel of nuts and was able to line them up in order. 

[transplantbillsfan]

4 hours ago, westside2 said:

Have you had the chance to read the declassified documents that have been coming out? Don't believe DR, just read the documents and make up your own mind.

 

I started typing a long post in response to this and realized I was wasting my breath.

 

I've wasted my time reading some of the crap DR and others have posted here. Ultimately, you guys (I include you because you reference him) just love to cherry pick often without context. 

 

That's my biggest finding when reading some of these documents I wish I didn't waste my time reading.

 

You're so fascinated with the bark on the tree you've lost the forest surrounding it.

[Doc Brown]

On 10/5/2020 at 7:43 PM, Rob's House said:

On a side note, and not that it really matters, but DR isn't a political idealogue. There seems to be a perception that he's a right winger hell bent on "owning the libs," but the truth is that he's not terribly conservative and for the bulk of the time he's been posting here he's been more aligned with the left.

 

He's one of the few people I know who tends to view issues individually and self-assess based on new information. Whether his information is correct is up to debate, but he's a very curious individual who is not married to any political party or preconceived point of view.

That was my only problem with DR in that he pretended to be neutral but his posting history suggested to me he was closer to a libertarian.  At least since I joined when the BBMB just disappeared.  He would twist himself in pretzels to defend Trump no matter what.  That's just a personal critique though and I don't know enough about happened to see if he deserved to get banned or not.  He's always been respectful to me though.

[The Guy In Pants]

7 hours ago, westside2 said:

Have you had the chance to read the declassified documents that have been coming out? Don't believe DR, just read the documents and make up your own mind.

There are exceptions to every rule; however, those who are already firm in their indoctrination or opinion, will NEVER seek out information that may prove them wrong. Instead; they will gravitate to and absorb information from sources that share their opinions because it’s comfortable. 
 

So; when someone on here tells you that they’ve read the Mueller report or read these documents in their entirety but somehow still have the same opinion of the situation; you know that they’re lying to you. Not only that; but 3/4 of the people who tell you they’ve skimmed them struggle with the terminology so they didn’t take anything away from it anyway. 
 

It is a psychological fact that human beings seek to feel comfortable, even if their comfort is based on lies. It is less likely that you are actually interacting with someone who holds no political bias than it is that you are interacting with someone who does hold political bias even though they tell you they’re not. 
 

It is also a psychological fact that those who have to constantly broadcast to others that they are or are not X; actually are the opposite of what they say to a degree. 
 

I guess what I’m getting at is; stop wasting your time with some of these people here. Is it really worth you getting all worked up? You’re not going to change their minds. You won’t sway their opinion and they certainly aren’t going to admit they’re wrong.

Edited October 7, 2020 by The Guy In Pants

[SectionC3]

8 hours ago, Paulus said:

It's tagged under "tranny." Go see for yourself.

 

I dont think you're part of it, and believe you may actually be a Bills' fan. 

 

Link please. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Are people still upset?

 

How many have actually left the board?

 

 

Asking for a friend obviously

 

[Westside]

42 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Are people still upset?

 

How many have actually left the board?

 

 

Asking for a friend obviously

 

I'm still here😊

[WEATHER DOT COM]

I heard Tasker left for 5 minutes

[BillsFanNC]

2 hours ago, The Guy In Pants said:

There are exceptions to every rule; however, those who are already firm in their indoctrination or opinion, will NEVER seek out information that may prove them wrong. Instead; they will gravitate to and absorb information from sources that share their opinions because it’s comfortable. 
 

So; when someone on here tells you that they’ve read the Mueller report or read these documents in their entirety but somehow still have the same opinion of the situation; you know that they’re lying to you. Not only that; but 3/4 of the people who tell you they’ve skimmed them struggle with the terminology so they didn’t take anything away from it anyway. 
 

It is a psychological fact that human beings seek to feel comfortable, even if their comfort is based on lies. It is less likely that you are actually interacting with someone who holds no political bias than it is that you are interacting with someone who does hold political bias even though they tell you they’re not. 
 

It is also a psychological fact that those who have to constantly broadcast to others that they are or are not X; actually are the opposite of what they say to a degree. 
 

I guess what I’m getting at is; stop wasting your time with some of these people here. Is it really worth you getting all worked up? You’re not going to change their minds. You won’t sway their opinion and they certainly aren’t going to admit they’re wrong.

 

Thank you.  This is why the media are the biggest villians in all of this. If they were honest and non-partisan like they are supposed to be, then we wouldn't have half the country living in an alternate fake reality. 

[3rdnlng]

5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I started typing a long post in response to this and realized I was wasting my breath.

 

I've wasted my time reading some of the crap DR and others have posted here. Ultimately, you guys (I include you because you reference him) just love to cherry pick often without context. 

 

That's my biggest finding when reading some of these documents I wish I didn't waste my time reading.

 

You're so fascinated with the bark on the tree you've lost the forest surrounding it.

You worry about wasting time but then bother to write the post above instead of just saying "I like my head in the sand". 

[SoCal Deek]

8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Thank you.  This is why the media are the biggest villians in all of this. If they were honest and non-partisan like they are supposed to be, then we wouldn't have half the country living in an alternate fake reality. 

It’s been going on for many years. It’s just now gotten to the point where the media has dropped all pretense and are openly supporting one political candidate. I can’t believe the Left doesn’t realize how dangerous this is. It’s just a matter of time before that bullhorn will be turned on them. Fools!

[The Guy In Pants]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Thank you.  This is why the media are the biggest villians in all of this. If they were honest and non-partisan like they are supposed to be, then we wouldn't have half the country living in an alternate fake reality. 

You are correct. It does not take a terminal degree to realize that news today is a tool used to shape the opinions and minds of those receiving it. Educators and celebrities are guilty of this as well. Personally; I feel if an educator is sharing their opinion on political and social issues with students; it’s not education. It’s a deliberate attempt to hijack developing minds. They cloak it with 46 different virtue signaling terms to make it sound as if there is some special benefit for the collective. 
 

We have people who look to those influencers for information and guidance instead of relying on their own cognitive ability to discern and getting information from sources who are qualified to provide them. Instead of people building their own opinions based on what they’ve taken the time to learn and understand; they prefer to have those opinions downloaded into their brains by others. It’s quick and requires the least amount of work. Since society is now largely an instant gratification society; influencers and manipulators have harnessed the power of persuasion for gain. For those who do not adhere to the accepted methods; they are ridiculed and mocked for daring to deviate from them.
 

Here we are. 

Edited October 7, 2020 by The Guy In Pants

[Foxx]

@Hapless Bills Fan

 

please close this thread, thank you.

 

too much character assassination without the character being able to defend himself.

[Numark3]

1 hour ago, Foxx said:

@Hapless Bills Fan

 

please close this thread, thank you.

 

too much character assassination without the character being able to defend himself.

 

You say about a guy who accused another poster of abusing children to SDS through a PM

[Capco]

1 minute ago, Crayola64 said:

 

You say about a guy who accused another poster of abusing children to SDS through a PM

 

Wtf?  That's what happened?  How on earth does a person let someone on the internet get to them that much?

[Taro T]

11 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

 

You say about a guy who accused another poster of abusing children to SDS through a PM

 

Pretty sure that is a misrepresentation of their conversation.

 

Also, pretty sure you realize that.  Which puts your post on par with that which you rail against.