Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Didn't he report to camp? I'm personally not trying to bring in a guy on an expiring deal - unless he reports. And i don't personally want an extension with him either so it doesn't really make sense. Also - don't move the swing tackle unless you're really confident in daryl williams injury recovery and ability to play tackle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 At first glance i thought this was Melvin Gordon again, even tho he's with Denver now, we've just seen so many of those trade rumors over the years where we're mentioned again & again with him haha. Melvin Ingram tho, thats different & he is more enticing to me if i were the GM. I know the Chargers want Oline help, but i wonder if something else could make it work. They can take Murphy &/or some other oline depth not named Ty if that'll do it. I think Ingram would be a great signing for a year or 2 & would be all for it. Like others have said, i'd prefer we improve the offense but when opportunity knocks, u always gotta open that door to see whats there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, dneveu said: Also - don't move the swing tackle unless you're really confident in daryl williams injury recovery and ability to play tackle. I have all the confidence in the world in Williams to play right tackle. I actually don't think Ty can play right tackle very well. But Ty is a considerably better left tackle. And my take on backup oline is you always start with the best guy you have to backup at LT and the best guy you have to backup at centre. Work out swings etc from there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 That seems wildly irresponsible to me. Don't see Beane doing that. Especially since it's our OFFENSE that needs help, not our defense. And the weak part of our offense is the oline. It got better last year but it is still below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Ziggy looks slow and his burst has definitely diminished. For the right price he might be a solid goal line DE and DT on passing downs. Ziggy probably is not the Ansah. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Hard no, Old and uphappy? We dont want that, also we are going to extend him so whats the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 How does making the O line group weaker benefit the Bills? If anything we need more/ better O line help, not less, it’s a silly idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I have all the confidence in the world in Williams to play right tackle. I actually don't think Ty can play right tackle very well. But Ty is a considerably better left tackle. And my take on backup oline is you always start with the best guy you have to backup at LT and the best guy you have to backup at centre. Work out swings etc from there. Thats a fair take. Williams has more experience at RG. Just depends whos starting where - you can't think about moving people without knowing who's even starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, dneveu said: Thats a fair take. Williams has more experience at RG. Just depends whos starting where - you can't think about moving people without knowing who's even starting. Than RT? He doesn't. Not at the NFL level at least. He started 10 games in 2016 and all 16 games in 2017 (when he was a 2nd team all pro) at right tackle. He missed 2018 and played all over the place in 2019. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, brianthomas said: At first glance i thought this was Melvin Gordon again, even tho he's with Denver now, we've just seen so many of those trade rumors over the years where we're mentioned again & again with him haha. Melvin Ingram tho, thats different & he is more enticing to me if i were the GM. I know the Chargers want Oline help, but i wonder if something else could make it work. They can take Murphy &/or some other oline depth not named Ty if that'll do it. I think Ingram would be a great signing for a year or 2 & would be all for it. Like others have said, i'd prefer we improve the offense but when opportunity knocks, u always gotta open that door to see whats there. I think you hand the ball off to Singletary and Moss and let them pound the rock. We have two young promising backs, no need to constipate the RB room. Singletary can probably handle 250 touches or more and Moss could probably handle 300 or thereabout and they’re also a lot cheaper. Unless there is an injury or something I feel we are in a good spot at RB. I saw on NFL.com that they had Singletary as the 16th best RB in the NFL and that’s as a rook. He could easily crack the top 10 this year and Moss won’t be far behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I think he would have to be. Like I said above they did do a good job of creating a kind of hybrid role for Zo to play linebacker while only ever moving vertically and not laterally and maybe Ingram could do that. But to me in this system Ingram is a defensive end. I think the point is we want fewer old d ends not more. And Zo didn't break the bank, he was a bargain for his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, dneveu said: Didn't he report to camp? I'm personally not trying to bring in a guy on an expiring deal - unless he reports. And i don't personally want an extension with him either so it doesn't really make sense. Also - don't move the swing tackle unless you're really confident in daryl williams injury recovery and ability to play tackle. He reported but he's doing a hold in where he's not participating. He's there so he won't get fined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I think you hand the ball off to Singletary and Moss and let them pound the rock. We have two young promising backs, no need to constipate the RB room. Singletary can probably handle 250 touches or more and Moss could probably handle 300 or thereabout and they’re also a lot cheaper. Unless there is an injury or something I feel we are in a good spot at RB. I saw on NFL.com that they had Singletary as the 16th best RB in the NFL and that’s as a rook. He could easily crack the top 10 this year and Moss won’t be far behind him. I think u misunderstood what i wrote lol. And yeah we're set with Singletary & Moss The Melvin Ingram trade talk is probably over now. He signed an adjusted contract with the Chargers so he'll be staying now https://www.nfl.com/news/melvin-ingram-signed-adjusted-contract-before-returning-to-chargers-practice Edited August 21, 2020 by brianthomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: no need to constipate the RB room Phrase of the day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 From the sounds of it, our OL is getting destroyed by our DL in practice. We might want to keep our best swing depth tackle. Might even be our best tackle when he’s playing his best. it most cases I’d love to make this trade. Not this year. Our OL really needs to help josh make that next step. I dunno if it’s good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, NewEra said: From the sounds of it, our OL is getting destroyed by our DL in practice. We might want to keep our best swing depth tackle. Might even be our best tackle when he’s playing his best. it most cases I’d love to make this trade. Not this year. Our OL really needs to help josh make that next step. I dunno if it’s good enough Don’t fall into that trap. There are good players and good depth on that OL. Our DL is a friggin’ beast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Ingram is a very good player, but really not what these guys look for as prototype edge players. Short arms, kind of a guy without a position here imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedGame Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Point of clarification: Something that appears on Bleacher Report is not called “an article.” It’s called “speculation,” or alternatively “lifelong amateur’s opinion.” Please feel free to use either of the approved labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, WickedGame said: Point of clarification: Something that appears on Bleacher Report is not called “an article.” It’s called “speculation,” or alternatively “lifelong amateur’s opinion.” Please feel free to use either of the approved labels. What about the OP suggested it was anything other than speculation. Wasn't even called a rumor...just said Bills mentioned and asked people what they thought about the authors suggested trade idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 4 hours ago, MJS said: That seems wildly irresponsible to me. Don't see Beane doing that. Especially since it's our OFFENSE that needs help, not our defense. And the weak part of our offense is the oline. It got better last year but it is still below average. Wildly irresponsible sounds wildly dramatic. 1 hour ago, eball said: Don’t fall into that trap. There are good players and good depth on that OL. Our DL is a friggin’ beast. Also 5 minutes in the d line should look better, with less coordination required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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