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This is one of those comments that cracks me up. Ive yet to find a fan base that doesnt think their offensive play caller doesnt dial “a number of head scratching plays.” Whether its Josh McDaniels or

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Sure, but the obsession with giving Frank Gore touches when he gets 0-1 yard every single time was hard to watch.   Daboll hasn't proven anything yet. He might be good, he might be bad. Time

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2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Daboll better get "smarter"   

 

there were a number of head scratching plays throughout the season.  

 


This is one of those comments that cracks me up. Ive yet to find a fan base that doesnt think their offensive play caller doesnt dial “a number of head scratching plays.” Whether its Josh McDaniels or Sean McVay, its always the same comment.

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This is one of those comments that cracks me up. Ive yet to find a fan base that doesnt think their offensive play caller doesnt dial “a number of head scratching plays.” Whether its Josh McDaniels or Sean McVay, its always the same comment.

Sure, but the obsession with giving Frank Gore touches when he gets 0-1 yard every single time was hard to watch.

 

Daboll hasn't proven anything yet. He might be good, he might be bad. Time will tell. I'm not convinced either way. Hope he is good, though.

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Sure, but the obsession with giving Frank Gore touches when he gets 0-1 yard every single time was hard to watch.

 

Daboll hasn't proven anything yet. He might be good, he might be bad. Time will tell. I'm not convinced either way. Hope he is good, though.

 

I'll admit that he went a hair too far giving Gore touches.  That said, Gore played really well early on. Like, really well.  He tailed off towards the end.  But by that point, the majority of his touches were change of pace/situations where the priority was ball security.  

 

That said, the overall product needs to improve.  I tend to think last year we had more execution problems than coaching problems, but it all still eventually falls on him. 

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I'll admit that he went a hair too far giving Gore touches.  That said, Gore played really well early on. Like, really well.  He tailed off towards the end.  But by that point, the majority of his touches were change of pace/situations where the priority was ball security.  

 

That said, the overall product needs to improve.  I tend to think last year we had more execution problems than coaching problems, but it all still eventually falls on him. 

 

3rd and 2 and we were running QB sweeps. Thats how much he trusted/wanted to use gore.

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This is one of those comments that cracks me up. Ive yet to find a fan base that doesnt think their offensive play caller doesnt dial “a number of head scratching plays.” Whether its Josh McDaniels or Sean McVay, its always the same comment.

 

Houston Playoff game ..   The Bills were on the 42 yard line and in FG range indoors

 

Instead of Trying the attempt .... 

4th and 27 call a pass play?. 

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/4/21050009/texans-bills-playoff-win-explained-josh-allen-deshaun-watson

 

 

 

 

 

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3rd and 2 and we were running QB sweeps. Thats how much he trusted/wanted to use gore.

 

Those QB sweeps were automatic (when the blocking was even decent). Also, that 1-2 yard run is more about the blocking than the back.  

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Houston Playoff game ..   4th and 27 and in FG range indoors.  Instead of Trying the attempt .... 

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/4/21050009/texans-bills-playoff-win-explained-josh-allen-deshaun-watson

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why are you posting a clip where the O-line couldn't execute? 

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LOL 

 

Kick the FG and the game changes!!! 

 

Daboll pulled  shite of his ass and blew it up!!!   

 

Who put the O-Line in that situation?   Play calling.  

 

 

FG v go for it on fourth down is a McDermott decision. 

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Start a poll and lets see who's fault it was.

 

Daboll

McDermott 

Allen

O-Line 

 

Poll won't tell you much...the only think you can see is the O-line break down immediately.  You don't know what the play call is (the play fell apart too quickly); you don't know what McDermott decided; you don't know what Allen saw (maybe someone has the all-22 I guess). 

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LOL 

 

Kick the FG and the game changes!!! 

 

Daboll pulled  shite of his ass and blew it up!!!   

 

Who put the O-Line in that situation?   Play calling.  

 

The sad part is I don’t think they trusted Hauschka 

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5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

The sad part is I don’t think they trusted Hauschka 

 

which is a head scratcher.

 

Hauscha on right hash was horrible but from the middle or the left he was spot on.  

 

I made a mental note of it game after game.

In a dome with no wind ....  proper placement.  Tie game.  

 

another note.  Was it really intentional grounding, or did the Ref's screw the Bills?  

 

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35 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

Houston Playoff game ..   The Bills were on the 42 yard line and in FG range indoors

 

Instead of Trying the attempt .... 

4th and 27 call a pass play?. 

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/4/21050009/texans-bills-playoff-win-explained-josh-allen-deshaun-watson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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which is a head scratcher.

 

Hauscha on right hash was horrible but from the middle or the left he was spot on.  

 

I made a mental note of it game after game.

In a dome with no wind ....  proper placement.  Tie game.  

 

another note.  Was it really intentional grounding, or did the Ref's screw the Bills?  

 

I didn’t think it was but IG is called maddeningly inconsistently 

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which is a head scratcher.

 

Hauscha on right hash was horrible but from the middle or the left he was spot on.  

 

I made a mental note of it game after game.

In a dome with no wind ....  proper placement.  Tie game.  

 

another note.  Was it really intentional grounding, or did the Ref's screw the Bills?  

 

I mean they drafted a kicker for a reason I think they were starting to think his leg was losing power.

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58 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

Houston Playoff game ..   The Bills were on the 42 yard line and in FG range indoors

 

Instead of Trying the attempt .... 

4th and 27 call a pass play?. 

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/4/21050009/texans-bills-playoff-win-explained-josh-allen-deshaun-watson

 

 

 

 

 

"Just like we drew it up.". 

 

Man this was painful.  

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5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

I've been neutral on Daboll so far.  He didn't have a lot to work with and a young QB (experience wise) to boot.

He's got the talent on the O this year and he game planning/play calling need to make a jump this year.

 

The offense got better from Y1 to Y2.  With a more experienced QB and a couple of new weapons, combined with OL continuity, why shouldn’t we expect further improvement this year?

 

I chuckle at the “we know what Daboll is and he stinks” contingent.  I think he has been adequate thus far, but has done a good job developing Allen and deserves the benefit of the doubt going into this season.

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which is a head scratcher.

 

Hauscha on right hash was horrible but from the middle or the left he was spot on.  

 

I made a mental note of it game after game.

In a dome with no wind ....  proper placement.  Tie game.  

 

another note.  Was it really intentional grounding, or did the Ref's screw the Bills?  

 

 

I have never seen an illegal touching call made in tandem with intentional grounding before.   I think there was a common theme where the o-line could not handle the closing plays of a game in the no-huddle situation.  Their whiff% went up as did their falling down-off balance,-trip over their own feet- while trying to pass set %.   I think they got gassed and could not function normally.

 

Of course TB12 can make a throw and land it outside of 10 yards of his nearest teammate and it's all good.

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I have never seen an illegal touching call made in tandem with intentional grounding before.   I think there was a common theme where the o-line could not handle the closing plays of a game in the no-huddle situation.  Their whiff% went up as did their falling down-off balance,-trip over their own feet- while trying to pass set %.   I think they got gassed and could not function normally.

 

Of course TB12 can make a throw and land it outside of 10 yards of his nearest teammate and it's all good.

We will see if the Bucs’ owner sends the pre-game checks to the officiating crew like ol Happy Ending 

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This is one of those comments that cracks me up. Ive yet to find a fan base that doesnt think their offensive play caller doesnt dial “a number of head scratching plays.” Whether its Josh McDaniels or Sean McVay, its always the same comment.

You're probably correct about the average fan base.  Unfortunately, Daboll earned some of this criticism with his frequent unsuccessful calls for Frank Gore up the middle on short yardage plays.  It is never good when even the fans know what Daboll was going to do on third down when he sent Gore in for the play.  If we understood that, don't you think the other teams did too.  Fortunately, there was more good than bad with Daboll.  He was working with some roster limitations last year that should be better this year.

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2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

Houston Playoff game ..   The Bills were on the 42 yard line and in FG range indoors

 

Instead of Trying the attempt .... 

4th and 27 call a pass play?. 

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/4/21050009/texans-bills-playoff-win-explained-josh-allen-deshaun-watson

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, this was painful.

 

However, the big difference in the game to me, and this falls on the coaching staff, was at the end of the first half when the Bills settled for a field goal instead of a touchdown.

 

Remember that last drive in the first half? I believe we started that drive on our own 4 yard line. The offense was moving that ball at a good pace and the Texans defense was having a tough time stopping them.

 

Then when the Bills get a first down with about 1:30 to go in the half, and with 2 timeouts, just outside the Texans 20, the Bills let the clock run. No urgency. I believe they called a running play with Gore gaining maybe 2 yards, letting over 20 seconds run off the clock, then the Bills call time out.

 

Yes, this was the same drive that Duke Williams dropped the touchdown pass in the end zone, but the Bills had an opportunity to do more than try and score on a big play.

 

They kick the field goal and go up 13-0, when they had a real chance of being up 17-0.

 

The Bills had a chance to put the Texans in a big hole at halftime. Not to mention give the Texans defense a real demoralizer by going on a 96 yard touchdown drive before halftime.

 

Whether it was Daboll or McDermott's decision to go with this approach, I see this as a big reason why the Bills lost the game.

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However, the big difference in the game to me, and this falls on the coaching staff, was at the end of the first half when the Bills settled for a field goal instead of a touchdown.

 

Remember that last drive in the first half? I believe we started that drive on our own 4 yard line. The offense was moving that ball at a good pace and the Texans defense was having a tough time stopping them.

 

Then when the Bills get a first down with about 1:30 to go in the half, and with 2 timeouts, just outside the Texans 20, the Bills let the clock run. No urgency. I believe they called a running play with Gore gaining maybe 2 yards, letting over 20 seconds run off the clock, then the Bills call time out.

 

Yes, this was the same drive that Duke Williams dropped the touchdown pass in the end zone, but the Bills had an opportunity to do more than try and score on a big play.

 

They kick the field goal and go up 13-0, when they had a real chance of being up 17-0.

 

The Bills had a chance to put the Texans in a big hole at halftime. Not to mention give the Texans defense a real demoralizer by going on a 96 yard touchdown drive before halftime.

 

Whether it was Daboll or McDermott's decision to go with this approach, I see this as a big reason why the Bills lost the game.

 

I can't disagree with any of this.  We don't know what was going on over at the Bills' sideline that led to that sequence, but I guess we all hope that they are constantly learning from their mistakes just like everyone else.

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Yes, this was painful.

 

However, the big difference in the game to me, and this falls on the coaching staff, was at the end of the first half when the Bills settled for a field goal instead of a touchdown.

 

Remember that last drive in the first half? I believe we started that drive on our own 4 yard line. The offense was moving that ball at a good pace and the Texans defense was having a tough time stopping them.

 

Then when the Bills get a first down with about 1:30 to go in the half, and with 2 timeouts, just outside the Texans 20, the Bills let the clock run. No urgency. I believe they called a running play with Gore gaining maybe 2 yards, letting over 20 seconds run off the clock, then the Bills call time out.

 

Yes, this was the same drive that Duke Williams dropped the touchdown pass in the end zone, but the Bills had an opportunity to do more than try and score on a big play.

 

They kick the field goal and go up 13-0, when they had a real chance of being up 17-0.

 

The Bills had a chance to put the Texans in a big hole at halftime. Not to mention give the Texans defense a real demoralizer by going on a 96 yard touchdown drive before halftime.

 

Whether it was Daboll or McDermott's decision to go with this approach, I see this as a big reason why the Bills lost the game.

One play and the whole conversation changes. Daboll looks like a (dare I say it?) "master" playcaller, the narrative of McDermott being conservative is quietly ushered aside, and the outcome of the game is possibly altered. 'IT'S A GAME OF INCHES!" 

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One play and the whole conversation changes. Daboll looks like a (dare I say it?) "master" playcaller, the narrative of McDermott being conservative is quietly ushered aside, and the outcome of the game is possibly altered. 'IT'S A GAME OF INCHES!" 

Yes, but they should not have been in that position.

 

They became complacent and let time run off the clock, and handed the ball off to Gore for a minimal gain, then called time out.

 

Nearly 30 seconds of time was lost during that sequence. The Texans defense was reeling, and the Bills gave them a break.

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