billsfan1959 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Motorin' said: There's nearly 10 million people who live in the Chicagoland area. If it were a state, it would rank #11 by population, just behind Michigan and in front of New Jeresey. Chicagoland has the population of 10 Erie Counties. Each of those shootings is a tragedy, but the idea that gang shootings in Chicago proves whatever narrative BS you think it does is asinine. By your logic, then: There are over 7 million contacts between police and black citizens over the age of 16 in this country each year. There are, on average, about 10, clearly unjustified murders of black men each year, and an average of a total of 230 black men who are killed by police each year. Each of those murders is a tragedy, but the idea that those killings proves a narrative of systemic racism in law enforcement is asinine. EDIT: BTW, the vast majority of those shootings you referenced are not taking place throughout the "Chicagoland area." As with most cities, they are taking place primarily in the poorest neighborhoods, which are predominantly black. Edited June 22, 2020 by billsfan1959 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, bdutton said: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/mississippi.xls Jackson4 MURDERS: 78 <-- represents vast majority of murders in the state. https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/mississippi/jackson Politics & Voting in Jackson, Mississippi The Political Climate in Jackson, MS is Strongly liberal. Hinds County, MS is Moderately liberal. In Hinds County, MS 71.1% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 26.6% voted Republican, and the remaining 2.3% voted Independent. Hinds county voted Democratic in the previous five Presidential elections. In the last Presidential election, Hinds county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 71.1% to 26.6% All of the local government including the Chief of Police, Mayor, city council is liberal Democrat. These are the 15 states with the lowest incomes in the US. Mississippi. Oxford, Mississippi. Louisiana. New Orleans, Louisiana Jorg Hackemann/Shutterstock. ... West Virginia. Fort Gay, West Virginia. ... New Mexico. A road in New Mexico. ... Arkansas. The Ozark Mountains. ... North Carolina. Wikimedia Commons. ... Alabama. Mobile, Alabama. ... Kentucky. ... More items... • Aug 19, 2019 The 15 poorest states in the US by median household income ... 25 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: And in Chicago's poorer neighborhoods there aren't many jobs so especially young people there need to find work downtown or in other parts of the city. Trouble is that Chicago is a sanctuary city with over 100K illegal immigrants living and working there making jobs for those in the poorer neighborhoods much much harder to obtain. Mayor after Dem mayor though won't touch that and they continue to toe the party line while Chicago residents continue to elect mayors from the same pool of stooges. Immigrants create jobs. Just having more people creates jobs. Simple economics 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: It’s only 56 people shot this weekend. Funny how you DGAF. ??♂️??♂️ Last count is over 70 shot/11 homicides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: These are the 15 states with the lowest incomes in the US. Mississippi. Oxford, Mississippi. Louisiana. New Orleans, Louisiana Jorg Hackemann/Shutterstock. ... West Virginia. Fort Gay, West Virginia. ... New Mexico. A road in New Mexico. ... Arkansas. The Ozark Mountains. ... North Carolina. Wikimedia Commons. ... Alabama. Mobile, Alabama. ... Kentucky. ... More items... • Aug 19, 2019 The 15 poorest states in the US by median household income ... Not sure what your point is. I posted that Jackson Mississippi has the highest murder rate in that state which you mentioned in a previous post. Jackson Mississippi is Democrat controlled. I've been to Oxford. Its the home of Ole Miss University. Its a very small but very nice city. It may be classified as low income because the income is skewed because many of its residents are students? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just now, bdutton said: Not sure what your point is. I posted that Jackson Mississippi has the highest murder rate in that state which you mentioned in a previous post. Jackson Mississippi is Democrat controlled. I've been to Oxford. Its the home of Ole Miss University. Its a very small but very nice city. It may be classified as low income because the income is skewed because many of its residents are students? Poor states run by Republicans. See? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Poor states run by Republicans. See? Is there a correlation to higher crime rates? Because Chicago/Il has one of the highest and the reason why I posted what I posted because of the Title of this thread. Edited June 22, 2020 by bdutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Poor states run by Republicans. See? Does that prove cities like Detroit, st. Louis, Camden, Cleveland, Houston, LA aren't shittholes? How can I forget San Francisco? Edited June 22, 2020 by westside2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Immigrants create jobs. Just having more people creates jobs. Simple economics Try selling that to the parents of south side Chicago teens looking for their first job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Not Chicago -- but NC. Funny how this hardly makes the news... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I like the direction that Chicago is heading. This is change I can believe in. I can't wait for Chicago to start laying off cops. Progressive in every sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Brooklyn ... who needs cops on the streets? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bdutton Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 When will Black lives matter to Black Lives Matter. (Considering blacks make up only 13% of the population yet responsible for almost 50% if Murders virtually all of which are Black on Black). Expanded Homicide Data Table 6 Murder Race, Sex, and Ethnicity of Victim by Race, Sex, and Ethnicity of Offender, 2017 [Single victim/single offender] Race of victim Total Race of offender White Black or African American Other1 Unknown White 3,567 2,861 576 59 71 Black or African American 2,970 264 2,627 17 62 Other race1 257 72 35 144 6 Unknown race 108 55 25 3 25 Source: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, bdutton said: When will Black lives matter to Black Lives Matter. (Considering blacks make up only 13% of the population yet responsible for almost 50% if Murders virtually all of which are Black on Black). Expanded Homicide Data Table 6 Murder Race, Sex, and Ethnicity of Victim by Race, Sex, and Ethnicity of Offender, 2017 [Single victim/single offender] Race of victim Total Race of offender White Black or African American Other1 Unknown White 3,567 2,861 576 59 71 Black or African American 2,970 264 2,627 17 62 Other race1 257 72 35 144 6 Unknown race 108 55 25 3 25 Source: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls No facts are allowed. It's not fair to the Democrats. In fact they will probably call you a racist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 This one sad photo shows just how much the media is avoiding the violence in Chicago this weekend “We cannot become numb to this madness,” but we are, aren’t we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, bdutton said: When will Black lives matter to Black Lives Matter. (Considering blacks make up only 13% of the population yet responsible for almost 50% if Murders virtually all of which are Black on Black). Expanded Homicide Data Table 6 Murder Race, Sex, and Ethnicity of Victim by Race, Sex, and Ethnicity of Offender, 2017 [Single victim/single offender] Race of victim Total Race of offender White Black or African American Other1 Unknown White 3,567 2,861 576 59 71 Black or African American 2,970 264 2,627 17 62 Other race1 257 72 35 144 6 Unknown race 108 55 25 3 25 Source: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls Never. Not as long as there's a way to deflect from the real problems facing the black community. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 6 hours ago, keepthefaith said: And in Chicago's poorer neighborhoods there aren't many jobs so especially young people there need to find work downtown or in other parts of the city. Trouble is that Chicago is a sanctuary city with over 100K illegal immigrants living and working there making jobs for those in the poorer neighborhoods much much harder to obtain. Mayor after Dem mayor though won't touch that and they continue to toe the party line while Chicago residents continue to elect mayors from the same pool of stooges. ..it is a really cool architectural city.....but the heinous weekly tally's of murders and wounded with NO regard for life is beyond my limited comprehension.....and it knows no bounds....toddlers murdered because parent didn't pay drug debt......can you better define sick?.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Brooklyn ... who needs cops on the streets? Is that real? I only ask that because that isn't anywhere on the local media here in NYC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, njbuff said: Is that real? I only ask that because that isn't anywhere on the local media here in NYC. Appears to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, njbuff said: Is that real? I only ask that because that isn't anywhere on the local media here in NYC. email DiBlasio....he'll have and will share the facts..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, westside2 said: No facts are allowed. It's not fair to the Democrats. In fact they will probably call you a racist. Maybe not even that. The lefties around here almost never comment on numbers such as those in that post. Crickets, change the subject or maybe racist accusations as you mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 6 hours ago, bdutton said: Is there a correlation to higher crime rates? Because Chicago/Il has one of the highest and the reason why I posted what I posted because of the Title of this thread. Buying and selling opioids is widespread all across rural America and crime is increasing. It's a plague in rural America Murders rates would naturally be lower with lower population density Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Buying and selling opioids is widespread all across rural America and crime is increasing. It's a plague in rural America Murders rates would naturally be lower with lower population density Well there's a change the subject answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, njbuff said: Is that real? I only ask that because that isn't anywhere on the local media here in NYC. It was on the local news over the weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I'll just leave this one here: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 11 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Why do you think you've been nicknamed Gleeful Gator and/or HAHA Gator? It's because you laughed at the deaths in Benghazi. You've shown to the world that you don't care about your fellow citizens. I mean, not all of them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1275068539947245575 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 16 hours ago, B-Man said: Appears to be. As long as the police are not involved, I would say this is progress. I hope the trend continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) What's the over/under of blacks getting killed by their own in Chicago on July 4th weekend? I will say 19 right now. Edited June 23, 2020 by njbuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: What's the over/under of blacks getting killed by their own in Chicago on July 4th weekend? I will say 19 right now. You want to bet on deaths? Will you be happier if the number is higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: You want to bet on deaths? Will you be happier if the number is higher? I hope there are ZERO deaths, but we know that isn't happening. I want us ALL to be safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, njbuff said: What's the over/under of blacks getting killed by their own in Chicago on July 4th weekend? I will say 19 right now. How about in NYC if the blueflu happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: How about in NYC if the blueflu happens? Won't the Blue Flu be nationwide? I don't even wanna know the number in NYC if there is a walkout. All hell will break loose because the distrust between the NYPD and the citizens is the biggest gap in the country. Edited June 23, 2020 by njbuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: You want to bet on deaths? Will you be happier if the number is higher? What, are you tired of laughing at deaths all of a sudden? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reality Check Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8468047/Man-19-shoots-two-teenage-boys-dead-asked-tall-is.html I just love Chicago. Black lives really matter there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 At Least 20 People Shot, 7 Fatally, During 24 Hours in Mayor Lightfoot’s Chicago by AWR Hawkins Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: At Least 20 People Shot, 7 Fatally, During 24 Hours in Mayor Lightfoot’s Chicago by AWR Hawkins Original Article It's all good as long as a white person or a white cop wasn't involved... ...right Democrats? This is change I can believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, B-Man said: At Least 20 People Shot, 7 Fatally, During 24 Hours in Mayor Lightfoot’s Chicago by AWR Hawkins Original Article Well, of course THOSE black lives don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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