Trump In the Pocket of China Like PPP Cultists are in the Pocket of Trump

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Albwan said:

Also, once again, the left steals because they are empty shells simply incapable of original 

thought.

Clearly group think surrounding one thought "orangemanbad" is way more cultist than garys

daydreams of his hated ppp posters.

Plus his thoughts of Trump always seem to drift towards a certain body part "Trumps pocket"

Does the right constantly using this phrase count as group think?  At least it's not "This is how you got Trump."

 

What's interesting is when Trump does say something stupid the jerk reaction for posters on here is to seek out the media's overreaction to it instead of just saying, "Yeah. That was a really dumb thing to say."

[plenzmd1]

On 4/24/2020 at 2:58 PM, Warren Zevon said:

If you hit Epenesa on a trade up I'll stop posting on PPP for a month

 

yes please

I think the man won...am i missing something?

[Wacka]

 

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I gotta ask. What are you looking for in his taxes?  Is there a specific schedule you really want to see?   I'd just like to know what dirt you expect to uncover in his returns?  

He owns a Chinese restaurant.

Edited April 26, 2020 by Wacka

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Does the right constantly using this phrase count as group think?  At least it's not "This is how you got Trump."

 

What's interesting is when Trump does say something stupid the jerk reaction for posters on here is to seek out the media's overreaction to it instead of just saying, "Yeah. That was a really dumb thing to say."

What’s the point of saying he said something stupid to a political adversary?  Is there a halfway mark everyone is trying to meet at? 
 

The premise seems to be that everyone on the other side is honest, forthcoming and neutral.  It’s like prior presidents and other politicians don’t say stupid things, don’t lie/cheat steal and we have to start today, today to have open and honest dialogue so we can meet at some happy place.

 

i’ve inquired more than a few times to members of the board their thoughts on Trump-guilty-of-treason and Schiff-has-evidence-against-Trump-just-wait! and thoughts on how major media outlets so badly misread the story for 3 years.  I usually add in that the end game was laid out here, on a message board, 3 years ago.  See to me, if people are really having open dialogue, before I waste my time with “Trump said something stupid” I’m wondering how the heck someone could support an attempt to steal my vote and an effort to unseat the duly elected President. 
 

I ask the same questions to liberal friends.  I still don’t have an answer, but in fairness I’m pretty certain it was an attempted coup, so there’s not much middle ground to be had. 
 

as far as I am concerned...that’s why you get Trump. ?

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

45 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Does the right constantly using this phrase count as group think?  At least it's not "This is how you got Trump."

 

What's interesting is when Trump does say something stupid the jerk reaction for posters on here is to seek out the media's overreaction to it instead of just saying, "Yeah. That was a really dumb thing to say."

I would say no, because I think Trump supporters don’t have one unifying reason of why they like him. Not any single, unified reason. I’m not sure which Trump comment or statement you refer to , but for the most part I love seeing the overreaction and just how much a tizzy they work themselves into. It’s annoying that lots of people actually buy the response hook, line and sinker but still it’s entertaining. I love that Trump is unconventional and not PC. He puts these people in their place !  They’re arrogant and proselytizing, and  should be talked down to so they can be seen for what they really are. He can ramble at times, which isn’t my favorite thing about his style but I love how combative he is with these  LSM types. 

[Koko78]

2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I gotta ask. What are you looking for in his taxes?  Is there a specific schedule you really want to see?   I'd just like to know what dirt you expect to uncover in his returns?  

 

It's hilarious that they think that they'd even understand his taxes.

1 hour ago, Wacka said:

 

He owns a Chinese restaurant.

 

...that serves Russian dressing on its salads.

[Cinga]

4 hours ago, BillStime said:

Once again - I can’t believe we have seen the First Ladies titz and not Trumps taxes. 

 

Of course you haven't, but all Trump supporters have! To access these files, and become a Trump supporter, all you have to do is go here:
https://secure.donaldjtrump.com/donate/

Donate $100 for every year you want to see, and they will send them to you forthwith! 

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

What’s the point of saying he said something stupid to a political adversary?  Is there a halfway mark everyone is trying to meet at? 
 

The premise seems to be that everyone on the other side is honest, forthcoming and neutral.  It’s like prior presidents and other politicians don’t say stupid things, don’t lie/cheat steal and we have to start today, today to have open and honest dialogue so we can meet at some happy place.

 

i’ve inquired more than a few times to members of the board their thoughts on Trump-guilty-of-treason and Schiff-has-evidence-against-Trump-just-wait! and thoughts on how major media outlets so badly misread the story for 3 years.  I usually add in that the end game was laid out here, on a message board, 3 years ago.  See to me, if people are really having open dialogue, before I waste my time with “Trump said something stupid” I’m wondering how the heck someone could support an attempt to steal my vote and an effort to unseat the duly elected President. 
 

I ask the same questions to liberal friends.  I still don’t have an answer, but in fairness I’m pretty certain it was an attempted coup, so there’s not much middle ground to be had. 
 

as far as I am concerned...that’s why you get Trump. ?

 

 

Fair enough.  I think most honest people would admit that the Trump Russia thing just didn't add up.  My main reasoning was the Trump campaign was way too dysfunctional and disorganized to pull any kind of collusion off.  The Trump/Ukraine situation was inappropriate but not impeachable based on the evidence presented.

 

I get bored with this forum unless something significant happens as it's basically right wing talking points by numerous posters (with some exceptions) combined with a few left wing trolls. This thread being a good example and the post about "group think" only being applied to the left gave me a chuckle.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

9 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Fair enough.  I think most honest people would admit that the Trump Russia thing just didn't add up.  My main reasoning was the Trump campaign was way too dysfunctional and disorganized to pull any kind of collusion off.  The Trump/Ukraine situation was inappropriate but not impeachable based on the evidence presented.

 

I get bored with this forum unless something significant happens as it's basically right wing talking points by numerous posters (with some exceptions) combined with a few left wing trolls. This thread being a good example and the post about "group think" only being applied to the left gave me a chuckle.

Here’s the thing from my perspective though. It’s not that it didn’t add up, the former head of the CIA accused him of treason, and pretty much across the board dem leadership did the same.  We’re here discussing it and you, a reasonable poster in my humble opinion, opined it’s actually Trump’s fault he wasn’t treasonous because he was too dopey to pull it off.  Not the danger of these games to our Republic, not the danger of accusing an individual (who is a natural target just because of his position) of treason, not the insanity of this particular fairy tale.  The natural question in my mind is if this is acceptable to you, and this is the next evolution of political wrangling, what’s next?   More troubling for me personally is if this is the new normal, what will I rationalize is acceptable for my candidates moving forward?    What’s after “treason” when dem voters are so hyper focused on knocking out the candidate 60m of their fellow citizens voted for that they accept it as business as usual? 
 

I felt the same about the Kav hearings, and the reality is that nothing really is off limits moving forward.  The stage is set, and with Chief Executioner and mudslinger Kamala Harris a potential VP candidate,   the game has to be played as such. That’s horrible.

 

Ukraine...politically acceptable to me for the dems to bring it up and push the envelope.  The hypocrisy of the whole thing with presumptive nominee Biden shaking down the Ukrainians to do his bidding, the incestuous nature of politics/nepotism and entitlement is a non-issue because it seems everyone does it.  I’d think that’s why the Rs brought it up originally, threw a little mud against the wall and nothing stuck.  Impeachment...another bridge too far.  
 

I spend time here because it helps me has things out.  I enjoy some of the humor, certainly enjoy some of the posts, and  enjoy interacting with like-minded people. I wouldn’t waste my time going to a pro-dem board, it would be a waste of my time.  
 

Anyway, have a good day. 

Edited April 26, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[B-Man]

 

 

Politico Edits False Story Claiming Trump Owes Millions to China.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Doc]

The press has certainly revealed itself over the past 4 years.  Pathetic.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Politico Edits False Story Claiming Trump Owes Millions to China.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh look another silent retraction. Enemies of the people, shut them down.

[Tiberius]

33 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

Oh look another silent retraction. Enemies of the people, shut them down.

Shut down the media? Ok, lol 

[Foxx]

15 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

I think the man won...am i missing something?

the thing is... he has so many sock puppet accounts, outside of the mods, how would one know if he stopped posting or not?

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Politico Edits False Story Claiming Trump Owes Millions to China.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You believe the Chinese now? Why? 

[Reality Check]

33 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You believe the Chinese now? Why? 

Don't worry. Biden will get elected and all of your problems will be solved as everything will be free. China is our friend.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Shut down the media? Ok, lol 

No different than a popular reality show at the end of a successful run.  I wouldn’t advocate shuttering any institution, but continued acknowledgement of the generally false narrative is appropriate.  Use of social media and alternative outlets to bypass the spinsters is appropriate. That will eventually lead to the worst offenders being marginalized and placed in the rack with the a national enquirer. As they dwindle and eventually fade away, a strong and honest media will ultimately take its place. 

[Tiberius]

24 minutes ago, Reality Check said:

Don't worry. Biden will get elected and all of your problems will be solved as everything will be free. China is our friend.

America will be in a better place, for sure 

22 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

No different than a popular reality show at the end of a successful run.  I wouldn’t advocate shuttering any institution, but continued acknowledgement of the generally false narrative is appropriate.  Use of social media and alternative outlets to bypass the spinsters is appropriate. That will eventually lead to the worst offenders being marginalized and placed in the rack with the a national enquirer. As they dwindle and eventually fade away, a strong and honest media will ultimately take its place. 

No, they are fine. I know a lot of people just want the news spun their way, but it can't work that way. 

[Bockeye]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Shut down the media? Ok, lol 

Most don’t call propaganda media. 
 

Here’s a great article on how the NYT’s is assisting China with its propaganda. 
 

“The pro-lock-down news­pa­per has been a leader in pro­mot­ing the fear that the U.S. would run well short of needed in­ten­sive-care fa­cil­i­ties. For­tunately this hasn’t come to pass and, if it ever does, let’s hope pub­lic of­fi­cials don’t de­cide that the so­lution is to set fire to Amer­i­ca’s econ­omy, which gen­er­ates the wealth to pro­vide health care for all Amer­i­cans.”

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-propaganda-and-the-panic-11587659071?emailToken=8e0c74fe3b3fa1fe510d5268c0a259c5SAhqYa0Q4RdaRmiBRvi6GD3Cd82IurLokpJ49lfLL3yOq2qzFEYEapICROMd+DueZ2mUaDOnzCidlHz2CFTwiA%3D%3D&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Bockeye said:

Most don’t call propaganda media. 
 

Here’s a great article on how the NYT’s is assisting China with its propaganda. 
 

“The pro-lock-down news­pa­per has been a leader in pro­mot­ing the fear that the U.S. would run well short of needed in­ten­sive-care fa­cil­i­ties. For­tunately this hasn’t come to pass and, if it ever does, let’s hope pub­lic of­fi­cials don’t de­cide that the so­lution is to set fire to Amer­i­ca’s econ­omy, which gen­er­ates the wealth to pro­vide health care for all Amer­i­cans.”

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-propaganda-and-the-panic-11587659071?emailToken=8e0c74fe3b3fa1fe510d5268c0a259c5SAhqYa0Q4RdaRmiBRvi6GD3Cd82IurLokpJ49lfLL3yOq2qzFEYEapICROMd+DueZ2mUaDOnzCidlHz2CFTwiA%3D%3D&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

Oh, NYT helping China? That's a new one ?

[Boatdrinks]

12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

America will be in a better place, for sure 

No, they are fine. I know a lot of people just want the news spun their way, but it can't work that way. 

I cannot think of one thing that would be better about America with a Biden as Prez. As for the LSM, it can and does work that way now. If you’re a lib, everything is spun around the progressive narrative. Literally every single thing they decide to talk about. Even sports aren’t  free from their nonsense. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

18 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

America will be in a better place, for sure 

No, they are fine. I know a lot of people just want the news spun their way, but it can't work that way. 

And yet, the cabal as a whole struggles more and more each year as people lose confidence in the product. Hang in there, though, you have your routine. Get up, check your mood ring to see how you’re feeling, slip your earth shoes on, stroll down to the news stand and pick up the the NYT to see what happened in Arkansas three days prior. 

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I cannot think of one thing that would be better about America with a Biden as Prez. As for the LSM, it can and does work that way now. If you’re a lib, everything is spun around the progressive narrative. Literally every single thing they decide to talk about. Even sports aren’t  free from their nonsense. 

Well, I don't want his to be president to make people who think like be happy. If you Trump as Prez you want to take away 30 million people's health insurance. No thanks 

Trump is an incompetent jerk. I hope he goes to jail over that hush money he paid to Stormy 

3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

And yet, the cabal as a whole struggles more and more each year as people lose confidence in the product. Hang in there, though, you have your routine. Get up, check your mood ring to see how you’re feeling, slip your earth shoes on, stroll down to the news stand and pick up the the NYT to see what happened in Arkansas three days prior. 

Oh, you know how to make up facts about my life? Wow, clever and creative. Why do you right wingers all make up facts about people's lives that they don't know? 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Here’s the thing from my perspective though. It’s not that it didn’t add up, the former head of the CIA accused him of treason, and pretty much across the board dem leadership did the same.  We’re here discussing it and you, a reasonable poster in my humble opinion, opined it’s actually Trump’s fault he wasn’t treasonous because he was too dopey to pull it off.  Not the danger of these games to our Republic, not the danger of accusing an individual (who is a natural target just because of his position) of treason, not the insanity of this particular fairy tale.  The natural question in my mind is if this is acceptable to you, and this is the next evolution of political wrangling, what’s next?   More troubling for me personally is if this is the new normal, what will I rationalize is acceptable for my candidates moving forward?    What’s after “treason” when dem voters are so hyper focused on knocking out the candidate 60m of their fellow citizens voted for that they accept it as business as usual? 
 

I felt the same about the Kav hearings, and the reality is that nothing really is off limits moving forward.  The stage is set, and with Chief Executioner and mudslinger Kamala Harris a potential VP candidate,   the game has to be played as such. That’s horrible.

 

Ukraine...politically acceptable to me for the dems to bring it up and push the envelope.  The hypocrisy of the whole thing with presumptive nominee Biden shaking down the Ukrainians to do his bidding, the incestuous nature of politics/nepotism and entitlement is a non-issue because it seems everyone does it.  I’d think that’s why the Rs brought it up originally, threw a little mud against the wall and nothing stuck.  Impeachment...another bridge too far.  
 

I spend time here because it helps me has things out.  I enjoy some of the humor, certainly enjoy some of the posts, and  enjoy interacting with like-minded people. I wouldn’t waste my time going to a pro-dem board, it would be a waste of my time.  
 

Anyway, have a good day. 

I'm more cynical when it comes to politics way before any of this happened.  It's been the norm well before Trump took office.  I watched a party try to use the birther movement  and their network to delegitimize a duly elected president under the guise of protecting the constitution's integrity.  I watched the excess of the Benghazi trials where McCarthy let the rabbit out of the bag that it was really about hurting Hillary politically knowing she'd pry be the 2016 nominee.  I watched the absurdness of what was supposed to be an investigation into an Arkansas land deal turn into a sex scandal that led to impeachment.  I watched a Republican primary where the "bring decency back to the white house" president stirred up a rumor that McCain had an illegitimate black child.  It's always been a blood sport where no accusation is beyond the pale and it turns people off to politics.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

15 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I'm more cynical when it comes to politics way before any of this happened.  It's been the norm well before Trump took office.  I watched a party try to use the birther movement  and their network to delegitimize a duly elected president under the guise of protecting the constitution's integrity.  I watched the excess of the Benghazi trials where McCarthy let the rabbit out of the bag that it was really about hurting Hillary politically knowing she'd pry be the 2016 nominee.  I watched the absurdness of what was supposed to be an investigation into an Arkansas land deal turn into a sex scandal that led to impeachment.  I watched a Republican primary where the "bring decency back to the white house" president stirred up a rumor that McCain had an illegitimate black child.  It's always been a blood sport where no accusation is beyond the pale and it turns people off to politics.

Fair enough.  I guess we all see what we want or need to see.  I thought at the time the Clinton issue was like Clinton himself: overblown.  Still, his fetish was his weakness, he exposed his throat to his enemies and was willing to lie under oath. 
 

A Benghazi gets investigated every time, and when you factor in the manufactured story exposing some poor bastard in Nowhereville to a death sentence by blaming him for some dopey video, the evidence shows the Sec State knew and told her daughter immediately, I see that as more mainstream politicizing than anything else.  
 

Obama birther was Trump/Romney and no income tax paid. I’ll have to refresh my memory on McCain, but I agree wholeheartedly it’s a blood sport.  
 

Which brings me back full circle to the future.  We might as well get to it. 

53 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Oh, you know how to make up facts about my life? Wow, clever and creative. 

 

 

Thank you. 

[3rdnlng]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Fair enough.  I guess we all see what we want or need to see.  I thought at the time the Clinton issue was like Clinton himself: overblown.  Still, his fetish was his weakness, he exposed his throat to his enemies and was willing to lie under oath. 
 

A Benghazi gets investigated every time, and when you factor in the manufactured story exposing some poor bastard in Nowhereville to a death sentence by blaming him for some dopey video, the evidence shows the Sec State knew and told her daughter immediately, I see that as more mainstream politicizing than anything else.  
 

Obama birther was Trump/Romney and no income tax paid. I’ll have to refresh my memory on McCain, but I agree wholeheartedly it’s a blood sport.  
 

Which brings me back full circle to the future.  We might as well get to it. 

Thank you. 

Seriously, can a man actually get overblown? 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

40 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Seriously, can a man actually get overblown? 

I am but a humble reporter of the world as I see it. ?

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Doc]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Or they did and...

[BillStime]

SHOCKER:

 

 

[BillStime]

Shocker - every GQP accusation is a confession:

 

 

[Westside]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

Shocker - every GQP accusation is a confession:

 

 

Did Joe get his 10% first?

[BillStime]

No way, I thought it was HUNTER

 

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

BillStime ignores the Mods instructions. . . . . . . . . . . . . what a surprise.  😆

 

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[BillStime]

 

[T master]

I wonder if Trump asks Joe or Hunter to hook him up with some of his buddies in the Chinese gov't then all could be forgiven right ?

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, T master said:

I wonder if Trump asks Joe or Hunter to hook him up with some of his buddies in the Chinese gov't then all could be forgiven right ?

Why would he need to? 
 

Trump hooked up Ivanka with how many Chinese trademarks while POTUS?

 

Trump pays the Chinese government how much in taxes from his Chinese bank account that he failed to disclose when POTUS?

 

You really try hard - lmao