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A list of potential TEs that can be had if the Bills don’t land Olsen.

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OJ Howard

David Njoku

Tyler Eifert

Austin Hooper

Eric Ebron

Hunter Henry

 

I would love for the Bills to trade for OJ and even David Njoku. Boot Tyler Kroft and Nate Becker and have O.J., Njoku, Knox, Sweeney and Croom make up the TE group. Having a group like this could also help compensate the WRs. If the Bills end up not trading for a blue chip WR and instead draft 1 or 2 then a talented group of pass catching TEs could make the difference in what we can do offensively.

 

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How "can" they be had if you have to "trade" for them?  Free agents can be had but trades are a bit more complicated.  In that regard, I would love for the Bills to trade for s slew of Pro Bowlers.

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I would take any one of these guys.  It seems it is actually a good year for tight ends.

 

This might be a good offeseason for finding offensive talent overall

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Stinks that Hunter and Eifert are oft injured because they have the ability to be elite...

 

Would be nice to get Henry and have him stay healthy and explode

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...and why would the Bills want to land Olsen? Anybody on that list is preferable to Olsen at this stage of his game. Kroft and Sweeney have more upside than Olsen right now. 

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OJ Howard or even Cameron Brate being available from the Bucs makes sense.  They both had a lot of upside, but Arians doesn't target his TE's much.  He doesn't have a huge need to keep both of them.  Howard has a year left on his rookie deal with the 5th year option.  And Brate has 4 years left at around 6.5 Million per year (But no dead $ left at all on any remaing years).  Both contracts are very manageable and might be worth taking a shot with for a mid-round pick or so.

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1 minute ago, Jumpsuit Jim said:

...and why would the Bills want to land Olsen? Anybody on that list is preferable to Olsen at this stage of his game. Kroft and Sweeney have more upside than Olsen right now. 

I was against Olsen at first as well.  I now think it all depends on how much they think he has left in the tank.  If he's 75% of his old self on a medium to lower end contract, I would be for it.  He could still be a decent contributor and be a mentor to the young guys as well.   However, I understand people being hesitant with him given his age and injury history lately - his contract would have to be right 

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Spend the money on Austin Hooper. Atlanta does not have a good cap situation (Spotrac shows $5.6 million in cap space) and that's after releasing Vic Beasley. There are so many examples of teams now with 2 good TEs have excellent passing attacks, like Philly with Ertz and Goedert, Balt with Andrews and Hurst and of course the original NE with Gronk and Hernandez (pre-murders). Add in KC and SF with great TEs.

 

So many keep clamoring for the big target in the passing game and want to settle on Duke Williams, Hooper would be so much better than that. 

 

Price tag: probably about $10 million, maybe they structure a slightly more cap friendly deal in the $9-9.5 range. But the good thing is if they sign Hooper they can release Kroft AND Lee Smith, saving them $7 million on the cap. So for $3 million more they have Hooper vs. Kroft and Smith. Who wouldn't take that? AFter those moves they are still $79 million under the cap.

 

As for blocking TE, they move Sweeney to #3, only keep 3 TEs and keep an extra OL and groom one of their backups to be essentially the 4th TE who just blocks. Dawkins has shown he can catch at goal line so you could use him. Lee Smith is always touted as one of the best blocking TEs in football but by definition isn't an offensive lineman going to be a better blocker than any TE? 

 

The other great thing about Hooper is that he's 25 years old, he's coming into his prime, another young, talented player. 

 

Last year they broke the bank on Morse, if I was to be willing to overpay for one player this year it would be Hooper. 

 

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I will take Hooper, and release Kroft and Lee--the human penalty--Smith.

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1 hour ago, jwhit34 said:

Spend the money on Austin Hooper. Atlanta does not have a good cap situation (Spotrac shows $5.6 million in cap space) and that's after releasing Vic Beasley. There are so many examples of teams now with 2 good TEs have excellent passing attacks, like Philly with Ertz and Goedert, Balt with Andrews and Hurst and of course the original NE with Gronk and Hernandez (pre-murders). Add in KC and SF with great TEs.

 

So many keep clamoring for the big target in the passing game and want to settle on Duke Williams, Hooper would be so much better than that. 

 

Price tag: probably about $10 million, maybe they structure a slightly more cap friendly deal in the $9-9.5 range. But the good thing is if they sign Hooper they can release Kroft AND Lee Smith, saving them $7 million on the cap. So for $3 million more they have Hooper vs. Kroft and Smith. Who wouldn't take that? AFter those moves they are still $79 million under the cap.

 

As for blocking TE, they move Sweeney to #3, only keep 3 TEs and keep an extra OL and groom one of their backups to be essentially the 4th TE who just blocks. Dawkins has shown he can catch at goal line so you could use him. Lee Smith is always touted as one of the best blocking TEs in football but by definition isn't an offensive lineman going to be a better blocker than any TE? 

 

The other great thing about Hooper is that he's 25 years old, he's coming into his prime, another young, talented player. 

 

Last year they broke the bank on Morse, if I was to be willing to overpay for one player this year it would be Hooper. 

 

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Whoops.  Great take and exactly what I want.  Keeping Sweeney makes sense and Hooper is a huge upgrade from the other two.  Especially when you framed it that only a $3 mil upgrade.

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11 hours ago, Tipster19 said:

OJ Howard

David Njoku

Tyler Eifert

Austin Hooper

Eric Ebron

Hunter Henry

 

I would love for the Bills to trade for OJ and even David Njoku. Boot Tyler Kroft and Nate Becker and have O.J., Njoku, Knox, Sweeney and Croom make up the TE group. Having a group like this could also help compensate the WRs. If the Bills end up not trading for a blue chip WR and instead draft 1 or 2 then a talented group of pass catching TEs could make the difference in what we can do offensively.

 

Not sure why would anyone care about signing Olson,  the guy is old and should retire.Bills needs to cut Kroft and upgrade the position with someone under the age of 30.

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I’d take Howard in a heartbeat. Kids Uber talented and just needs a chance.

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13 hours ago, Jumpsuit Jim said:

...and why would the Bills want to land Olsen? Anybody on that list is preferable to Olsen at this stage of his game. Kroft and Sweeney have more upside than Olsen right now. 

There may be some interest in having a mentor for both Knox, and Sweeney, a la Gore/Motor. I could imagine that Beane/McD might see enough potential in both of those guys to not reach too far for another TE.

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14 hours ago, BillsDiehard said:

Jacob Hollister...SEA...Josh's TE at Wyoming

 

 

....so as an RFA who was a UDFA, what is the cost?..........

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Why stop there? Let's just trade for Kelce and Kittle.s

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15 hours ago, Tipster19 said:

OJ Howard

David Njoku

Tyler Eifert

Austin Hooper

Eric Ebron

Hunter Henry

 

I would love for the Bills to trade for OJ and even David Njoku. Boot Tyler Kroft and Nate Becker and have O.J., Njoku, Knox, Sweeney and Croom make up the TE group. Having a group like this could also help compensate the WRs. If the Bills end up not trading for a blue chip WR and instead draft 1 or 2 then a talented group of pass catching TEs could make the difference in what we can do offensively.

 

 

I totally agree that adding TE's can help make up for the lack of a top WR in FA.  But, I recommend targeting Hooper or Henry, and adding Njoku.  I wouldn't trade for Howard.  

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Who introduced the concept of a TE to these Bills? Been three decades since they bothered with the position 

 

 

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19 hours ago, BillsDiehard said:

Jacob Hollister...SEA...Josh's TE at Wyoming

He's a RFA and doesn't add much in terms of size. I don't see him being any better than Sweeney here.

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