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23 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

in the history of the cheap shots and deliberate injuries to an opponent and slurs delivered in an NFL game, that was the first time someone snapped that bad

 

he better show contrition when he shows up at HQ

 

 

Fine line between "snapping" and not...why many coaches say 'controlled agression'.  Maybe you've played, maybe you haven't, but as a player it is tough to control your emotions when someone provokes you. 

 

Not defending Garrett, but rudolph is not innocent and Pounceys actions were also bad.  Cant know what was said, but you can see a player trying to rip off a players helmet, then charges after him after his own helmet is ripped off.  So....what if rudolph got Garrett's helmet ripped off and garrets neck was injured...cant say I feel bad for what happened 

 

 

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We traveled to play Louisiana Lafayette, the Rajun Cajuns when I was a senior in college.

 

The two other starting outfielders were black.  It was a night game and the fans were viscous.  

They asked them to smile so they could see them.

I remember a fly ball got over the head of our centerfielder and someone yelled out "maybe you need that whip to make you run faster"

 

One guy yelled out "Do y'all listen to David Allen Coe?  You really should if you don't.  He's a really good song writer!" 

 

No fights...none. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

That's a beautiful story.  Thank you for sharing it.  Where did you play?

 

There was some controversy in a local HS football game with my daughter's school about the N-word being tossed at one (DI recruit) player during a HS playoff game.  The game ended in a brawl where the coaches on that team charged the other bench.  The school denied it, and no evidence from all the video and stuff turned up, but I tend to believe there was enough smoke that probably some fire was involved.

 

 

Oh, I've got a million of them. It was an amateur league in PA filled by guys who were either not good enough to play pro ball, too old to play pro ball any more, or behind bars too often to play in college. We were the reincarnation of the 1976 Oakland Raiders. I literally cannot count the number of times I'd be looking for one of our defensive starters during a Sunday morning pregame only to be told he'd been hauled off back to jail on Friday night. They were a pack of occasionally dangerous lunatics, but by god they were funny. 

 

I'm more prone to believe it happened at a level where the players involved were younger and maybe hadn't developed a certain level of understanding and self-control, your daughters school being a prime example. But with older players that's just such a no-go zone that I really have a hard time buying Garret's story.

 

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5 minutes ago, MJS said:

He probably wouldn't be able to prove he didn't say it either.

Maybe but attempting to fight it and being angry that it is even suggested would be a good start. 

5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

We traveled to play Louisiana Lafayette, the Rajun Cajuns when I was a senior in college.

 

The two other starting outfielders were black.  It was a night game and the fans were viscous.  

They asked them to smile so they could see them.

I remember a fly ball got over the head of our centerfielder and someone yelled out "maybe you need that whip to make you run faster"

 

One guy yelled out "Do y'all listen to David Allen Coe?  You really should if you don't.  He's a really good song writer!" 

 

No fights...none. 

 

Welcome to the life of a minority.  Either accept abuse based solely on the color of your skin and just take it.  Or get angry and get called a thug.  
 

 

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3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You’re not this ignorant are you?  I hope not.  No slur is ok.  But if you are comparing the two, it’s absolutely insane.

 

and I have no idea what happened.  Neither does anyone else so it’s completely garbage to pretend like you do.  Every scouting report on Garrett is that he was a super mild mannered dude who might love art more than football.  

I have no idea how you of all people get away with calling people ignorant. And that’s without bringing up the fact that Garrett has a well earned reputation as one of the dirtiest players in the league.

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5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Maybe but attempting to fight it and being angry that it is even suggested would be a good start. 

Welcome to the life of a minority.  Either accept abuse based solely on the color of your skin and just take it.  Or get angry and get called a thug.  
 

 

 

I'm a minority.  I've been called more racial slurs my whole life.  Being called a racial slur of any race is basing it solely on the color of your skin.  

If Garrett didn't swing a helmet, he wouldn't have been criticized.  A regular fight and people wouldn't be so against him.  The helmet is a weapon and no excuse not to be able to control your anger to that point.

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1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I'm a minority.  I've been called more racial slurs my whole life.  Being called a racial slur of any race is basing it solely on the color of your skin.  

If Garrett didn't swing a helmet, he wouldn't have been criticized.  A regular fight and people wouldn't be so against him.  The helmet is a weapon and no excuse not to be able to control your anger to that point.

Being short doesn’t count you know

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8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I have no idea how you of all people get away with calling people ignorant. And that’s without bringing up the fact that Garrett has a well earned reputation as one of the dirtiest players in the league.

 

 

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You’re not this ignorant are you?  I hope not.  No slur is ok.  But if you are comparing the two, it’s absolutely insane.

 

and I have no idea what happened.  Neither does anyone else so it’s completely garbage to pretend like you do.  Every scouting report on Garrett is that he was a super mild mannered dude who might love art more than football.  

 

Super mild mannered dude.

 

Image result for myles garrett delanie walker gif

6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Being short doesn’t count you know

 

You wouldn't be taller than me even if you wore Timberlands.

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11 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Fine line between "snapping" and not...why many coaches say 'controlled agression'.  Maybe you've played, maybe you haven't, but as a player it is tough to control your emotions when someone provokes you. 

 

Not defending Garrett, but rudolph is not innocent and Pounceys actions were also bad.  Cant know what was said, but you can see a player trying to rip off a players helmet, then charges after him after his own helmet is ripped off.  So....what if rudolph got Garrett's helmet ripped off and garrets neck was injured...cant say I feel bad for what happened

 

I thought one of the more interesting takes on the whole situation was on the 'Lo Down' with Lorenzo Alexander.  Oh, heck, they're a bit hard to find, I'll dig it up for y'all.
https://www.buffalobills.com/video/the-lo-down-with-lorenzo-alexander-x3481  (sorry to not dig up the timestamp)
 

My take on what 'Zo said was that he (by inference, many defensive players around the league) had kind of a "there but for the grace of God go I" reaction - he said something to the effect that in the moment "All you see is Red" and you don't care if there's a helmet in your hand or there's not a helmet in your hand.  He felt a key factor in the situation was that Garrett did not have any of his own teammates around him getting between him and keeping him back.

 

I think Zo would agree with your take "it is tough to control your emotions when someone provokes you".

 

Totally agree that Rudolph has plenty of fault in the whole incident, to me most clearly when he charged after Garrett yelling something after his helmet was ripped off.

 

 

21 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Maybe but attempting to fight it and being angry that it is even suggested would be a good start. 

Welcome to the life of a minority.  Either accept abuse based solely on the color of your skin and just take it.  Or get angry and get called a thug. 

 

Er.....you can get angry, and channel that in different ways than clocking a guy in the head with his helmet.

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7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

 

 

Super mild mannered dude.

 

Image result for myles garrett delanie walker gif

 

You wouldn't be taller than me even if you wore Timberlands.

Yes I would

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5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Yes I would

 

The only people in Hawaii that are nearly 6 feet tall are demi-gods and I believe you're a mortal. 

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26 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Maybe but attempting to fight it and being angry that it is even suggested would be a good start. 

Welcome to the life of a minority.  Either accept abuse based solely on the color of your skin and just take it.  Or get angry and get called a thug.  
 

 


Rudolph was pretty adamant about not saying it. I don’t know if I’d say angry, but he’s clearly bothered by it:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2864123-mason-rudolph-denies-myles-garretts-racial-slur-allegation-totally-untrue.amp.html

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5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I said at the time that claiming this was his best option. I don’t know if it happened or didn’t; I wasn’t there. However, this was CLEARLY his best avenue for sympathy and forgiveness. 

 

going to have to disagree there. And, it's backfired spectacularly.  When your own teammates don't go along with this race-baiting angle, and the Steelers, including Pouncy, do not back you up, you're going to have issues and look even less sympathetic than before.  Fans are forgiving of doing stupid things like Garrett did, but making up horrible accusations--the truth comes out--never help you.  

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5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I said at the time that claiming this was his best option. I don’t know if it happened or didn’t; I wasn’t there. However, this was CLEARLY his best avenue for sympathy and forgiveness. 

 

I agree. If you think about, it plays well with the public because you rarely hear anyone being accused of using a racial slur these days. 

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6 hours ago, BigBillsFan said:

Fo shizzle!!!

FIFY

 

Pho Shizzle

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3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I literally said I have no idea what happened and neither than you.  It’s just based on scouting reports, this is completely out of character.  If it’s a guy like Burfict, RI, etc, it seems a little more understandable.

 

and again, no slur is ok. But am I really talking to a grown person who is downplaying the significance and history of the n word?  Where did you grow up?

 

I'm not down playing it - I just think it's difficult to move relations forward trying to have a slur chart.  Your argument really doesn't make things better - it's just regurgitation.  

 

If an Asian and a black guy get into an argument and the black guy calls him a slant eye and the Asain says well you're an N word.  You want historical significance to come into play and say the Asian is more wrong?  So for you to dismiss the other posters comment about slurs being uttered to him is ridiculous.  

 

That's why you are only able to look at this from one angle and compare Garrett to Burfect.  What about Rudolph's character tells you he likely made a racial slur?

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17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

The only people in Hawaii that are nearly 6 feet tall are demi-gods and I believe you're a mortal. 

I'm almost 5'10"

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8 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

I'm not down playing it - I just think it's difficult to move relations forward trying to have a slur chart.  Your argument really doesn't make things better - it's just regurgitation.  

 

If an Asian and a black guy get into an argument and the black guy calls him a slant eye and the Asain says well you're an N word.  You want historical significance to come into play and say the Asian is more wrong?  So for you to dismiss the other posters comment about slurs being uttered to him is ridiculous.  

 

That's why you are only able to look at this from one angle and compare Garrett to Burfect.  What about Rudolph's character tells you he likely made a racial slur?

 

You got it

11 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

FIFY

 

Pho Shizzle

 

I'm offended.

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News Flash: Suspended Players lie

More on this later...

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I said at the time that claiming this was his best option. I don’t know if it happened or didn’t; I wasn’t there. However, this was CLEARLY his best avenue for sympathy and forgiveness. 

Well he's reading your posts Kirby and he's waiting for more advice

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1 hour ago, White Linen said:

 

I'm not down playing it - I just think it's difficult to move relations forward trying to have a slur chart.  Your argument really doesn't make things better - it's just regurgitation.  

 

If an Asian and a black guy get into an argument and the black guy calls him a slant eye and the Asain says well you're an N word.  You want historical significance to come into play and say the Asian is more wrong?  So for you to dismiss the other posters comment about slurs being uttered to him is ridiculous.  

 

That's why you are only able to look at this from one angle and compare Garrett to Burfect.  What about Rudolph's character tells you he likely made a racial slur?

You’re reaching here.  Not once did I ever say MR called him that. Not once.  I also said it could be proven he didn’t, Garrett should be sued and suspended.  
 

I don’t use slurs.  I think only losers and people who lack something in their own lives do it.  It’s just how I was raised.  You’re right there isn’t a slur chart.   But to compare cracker to the n word is nuts given the history of this country.  

 

I have no idea what was said.  No one does so it’s dumb to pretend like we do.  There are people who are going to believe Garrett no what and there are people who will believe Rudolph or try to dismiss it as it’s just a word, get over it.  
 

If MR did, I don’t feel that bad for what happened. And if he didn’t, Garrett should face more consequences.  It’s pretty straight forward and I’m not sure there’s more to it than that. 

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Telling him he stinks (smells gungy) is not racial but could be sexist.

 

gungy - Urban Dictionary

www.urbandictionary.com › define › term=gungy

The state of having much gunge, which is the sticky, yet quite pungent, substance that forms around a women's *****.

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