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I don’t believe him...and I sense a psychological “tell” that shows him possibly being disingenuous...😉

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The most wonderful thing coming out of this was the Steeler realization that they have to go back to the drawing board to find a replacement for BR.

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3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I have been called both a “cracker” and “*****” while playing football and basketball.

 

I never got into a fight about it.

You’re not this ignorant are you?  I hope not.  No slur is ok.  But if you are comparing the two, it’s absolutely insane.

 

and I have no idea what happened.  Neither does anyone else so it’s completely garbage to pretend like you do.  Every scouting report on Garrett is that he was a super mild mannered dude who might love art more than football.  

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1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:


Perhaps, but maybe I’m old fashioned or something—to me it reeks of justifying an unjustifiable act.

 

Maybe Rudolph said that; maybe he didn’t. I’d like to believe someone would’ve corroborated it, though nobody had denied it either.

 

For me, contrition is the way to gain forgiveness. A simple “I lost my mind out there and have no excuse. I hope in time everyone will forgive me” would’ve been sufficient.


I made it clear that I agree with that.  How about this as a takeaway for Garrett: How about next time don’t do something that could’ve been unforgivable in retaliation to a slur?  Then maybe people can focus on the slur you were called and the guy who called you it rather than your much worse response.

 

As for pushing the issue of the slur, there’s no way that was happening during the indefinite suspension.  Had Garrett done so I am positive that he’d still be suspended.  In fact I’m surprised he brought it up again.  It might not help him in the future. 

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6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You’re not this ignorant are you?  I hope not.  No slur is ok.  But if you are comparing the two, it’s absolutely insane.

 

and I have no idea what happened.  Neither does anyone else so it’s completely garbage to pretend like you do.  Every scouting report on Garrett is that he was a super mild mannered dude who might love art more than football.  

 

No slur is ok but there's definitely a ranking system?  You have no idea what happened but because Garrett is mild and loves art he's probably not lying?

 

I think in order to be the most fair and move forward on issues like this - we should start with all slurs are bad and are equally offensive.  Then we'll at least have a baseline.  If we say some slurs are worse than others - we'll never fix things.  Especially if we are going to say people are insane and ignorant because the slur used on them isn't the same.  

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11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You’re not this ignorant are you?  I hope not.  No slur is ok.  But if you are comparing the two, it’s absolutely insane.

 

and I have no idea what happened.  Neither does anyone else so it’s completely garbage to pretend like you do.  Every scouting report on Garrett is that he was a super mild mannered dude who might love art more than football.  

It's the quiet ones you have to watch out for.

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3 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

No slur is ok but there's definitely a ranking system?  You have no idea what happened but because Garrett is mild and loves art he's probably not lying?

 

I think in order to be the most fair and move forward on issues like this - we should start with all slurs are bad and are equally offensive.  Then we'll at least have a baseline.  If we say some slurs are worse than others - we'll never fix things.  Especially if we are going to say people are insane and ignorant because the slur used on them isn't the same.  

I literally said I have no idea what happened and neither than you.  It’s just based on scouting reports, this is completely out of character.  If it’s a guy like Burfict, RI, etc, it seems a little more understandable.

 

and again, no slur is ok. But am I really talking to a grown person who is downplaying the significance and history of the n word?  Where did you grow up?

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It's all on video in slow motion. Don't see Mason Rudolph calling him the N-word. He definitely uses the B-word though. Myles is lying. I mean, how could nobody have heard it but him? Did Mason come whisper it in his ear while blocking his face from cameras?

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he's making this whole thing worse.  he swung a helmet big deal. he lost his mind in the moment.  are we supposed to believe that mr who is a statue and has gotten sacked like a thousand times suddenly made the comment this time?  doesn't make sense.  myles just needed to let this die and nobody would remember. didn't beat a women, not roids, not drugs, not rape, he just went nuts and swung a helmet. you look back and it's funny.

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14 minutes ago, Dopey said:

It's the quiet ones you have to watch out for.

Well that certainly is true.  Small dogs bark the most.  Big dogs just bite. 

9 minutes ago, MJS said:

It's all on video in slow motion. Don't see Mason Rudolph calling him the N-word. He definitely uses the B-word though. Myles is lying. I mean, how could nobody have heard it but him? Did Mason come whisper it in his ear while blocking his face from cameras?

And if he is lying, I think he should be suspended again.  I can’t believe there is no audio given how mic’ed up everything is now.

 

and if I’m MR and didn’t say it, why won’t he sued for libel?

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Cant say if hes lying or not... all of us can judge what appeared as mason trying to rip off Myles' helmet first, then what ensued after that is all on Garrett.  

 

Can say based on observing Rudolph's behaviour during games, his interviews, and general "average" at best play....im glad buffalo didnt draft him

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8 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Cant say if hes lying or not... all of us can judge what appeared as mason trying to rip off Myles' helmet first, then what ensued after that is all on Garrett.  

 

Can say based on observing Rudolph's behaviour during games, his interviews, and general "average" at best play....im glad buffalo didnt draft him


The nut shot, helmet twisting and going after Garrett after he was locked up with DeCastro should’ve led to a suspension for Rudolph too.  It doesn’t forgive the helmet swing, but it should’ve been more than a $50k fine. 

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Rudolph the Redneck Reindeer has a nice ring to it. Especially for late December games

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I just love his tweet when he got reinstated.

 

 

Nothing says you've learned the error of violently assaulting someone like saying your back with a pic of a guy who was going on a murderous rampage.

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5 hours ago, H2o said:

In a sit down interview with Mina Kimes he's still using the racial slur argument. I don't buy it. This is a guy trying to find a way to repair his image and justify his actions.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/myles-garrett-mason-rudolph-called-him-a-stupid-n-word-he-tells-espn.html

 

Look, as far as I understand, trash talk is pretty common on a football field.  If mommas and sisters and wives are fair game, I think it would be naive to think that racial slurs don't come into it.

 

The thing is, I don't think it justifies slamming a guy on his unprotected head with your helmet. That's behavior you gotta be able to control.

 

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:


I made it clear that I agree with that.  How about this as a takeaway for Garrett: How about next time don’t do something that could’ve been unforgivable in retaliation to a slur?  Then maybe people can focus on the slur you were called and the guy who called you it rather than your much worse response.

 

As for pushing the issue of the slur, there’s no way that was happening during the indefinite suspension.  Had Garrett done so I am positive that he’d still be suspended.  In fact I’m surprised he brought it up again.  It might not help him in the future. 

 

Well said and good take IMO.

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1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You’re not this ignorant are you?  I hope not.  No slur is ok.  But if you are comparing the two, it’s absolutely insane.

 

and I have no idea what happened.  Neither does anyone else so it’s completely garbage to pretend like you do.  Every scouting report on Garrett is that he was a super mild mannered dude who might love art more than football.  

 

That would be his personality OFF the field.  He wouldn't be getting the big bucks to play football if that was his ON FIELD persona.

 

 

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this isn't the remorse that The Shield wants from its players in the penalty box

 

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I don’t know either guy, but it’s really between them. I have no need to pick a side on something I know nothing about. Stuff like this just works perfectly in a culture where everyone needs to pick sides on everything, and the media keeps fanning the flames. 

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1 minute ago, SirAndrew said:

I don’t know either guy, but it’s really between them. I have no need to pick a side on something I know nothing about. Stuff like this just works perfectly in a culture where everyone needs to pick sides on everything, and the media keeps fanning the flames. 

 

nothing justifies Garrett's behaviour, he had better repeat that line every time he has to answer a question if he wants to be cashing checks for the long term

 

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Just now, row_33 said:

 

nothing justifies Garrett's behaviour, he had better repeat that line every time he has to answer a question if he wants to be cashing checks for the long term

 

Behavior isn’t justified, I’m just saying I’m not going to call Rudolph a racist, or Garrett a liar when in reality I don’t know what happened. I just find it funny how 99.9% of people take one of those two positions. I take the position that I have no clue what happened. I’m just commenting to society/media’s need to choose sides in everything. It’s fair to state an opinion there was no place in football for that, because that’s a more informed opinion. 

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2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Behavior isn’t justified, I’m just saying I’m not going to call Rudolph a racist, or Garrett a liar when in reality I don’t know what happened. I just find it funny how 99.9% of people take one of those two positions. I take the position that I have no clue what happened. I’m just commenting to society/media’s need to choose sides in everything. It’s fair to state an opinion there was no place in football for that, because that’s a more informed opinion. 

 

 

i take the position that i see this and shake my head a bit and move on

 

 

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Just now, row_33 said:

 

 

i take the position that i see this and shake my head a bit and move on

 

 

I mostly agree, that’s why I’m saying I really don’t care to pick sides. The situation should have never occurred, and that’s all there is to it. 

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8 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

nothing justifies Garrett's behaviour, he had better repeat that line every time he has to answer a question if he wants to be cashing checks for the long term

 

Should he hit someone with a helmet? Of course not.  But I’m assuming you’re white (please correct me if I’m wrong).  If you’re Not black, you can never fully understand what being called that word does to you.  You really can’t.  It’s like women with c word.  I don’t get it but it is a total no no.  
 

And if MR didn’t say it, MG should face consequences.  I know if I had their money and someone falsely accused me of something like I would take them to court. 

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