PIZ Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The Bills need 2 wide receivers in the draft. Get a DE, TE, LG, and ORT in FA, then draft 2 WRs, 1 RB, LB, and a CB in the draft. If you have extra picks after trading around, get some more DL help. I would like to see the OL filled with quality veterans, and some young top WR from the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: there is a scout that said shenault will run around 4.4. I'd almost bet he doesn't run a 4.4 Maybe a 4.49 fastest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: there is a scout that said shenault will run around 4.4. If he runs a 4.4 he will not make it to us. More than a few scouts said if he played for Alabama that he would be a top 10 pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 hours ago, DJB said: They aren't the same player though. Shenault is much more physicall but hes a lot slower. I think Josh and the Bills will be targeting someone with a huge catch radius or someone with good size to go along with great speed. Higgins and Jefferson fit the mold of big guys round 1. I just dont think Bills will go WR in round 1 even though I and most of us want to see it. I suspect we go DE or OT round 1. Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks suspect that about 20 WR could go in the first 2 rounds. The depth is there for us to likely go WR round 2 and I suspect we trade up in round 2 to do so. https://art19.com/shows/move-the-sticks/episodes/b0e0cc1b-8683-46aa-8068-193460110ac6 Have a listen. Cant recall exactly where in the podcast it was said however ...don't get to see college ball, but is it conceivable that Beane trades down to 27 or 28 to grab an extra 2nd and then go WR in round 2?............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, H2o said: Go watch highlights of Patterson at Tennessee and then watch Shenault highlights. Same player, but Patterson is faster imo and excels in the return game. Just my 2. It’s fine we can disagree on this if he ends up running a 4.4 he prob doesn’t even make it to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 40 minutes ago, Mickey said: I wouldn't be surprised if they did just that. The sample size is small but Beane does have a history, albeit a short one, of trading up (Ford, Edmunds) to get his second pick. I know it isn't all Beane, but Allen, Edmunds, Ford, Jones, and Dawkins were all trade ups (and mostly offense!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I’ll trust the Bills to make the right choice. Both names would would be a lot of fun to say after a big first down or TD! Is that not how they choose? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 We shouldn't try to project one play who will = another player in our scheme, in our offense, with our QB. I don't care of the guy is a Micheal Thomas, Julio, Megatron, Tyreek Hill (no beating up kids), etc. I want someone who has the skills to get separation, generate YAC, has a good catch radius, soft hands (catches with his hands), able to adjust for a ball, win 50/50 matchups and has good overall speed, acceleration and agility. We need to take the best WR on our board that we have a shot at getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It’s fine we can disagree on this if he ends up running a 4.4 he prob doesn’t even make it to us That we can my friend I think the only way he runs that fast is if he sheds about 10-12lbs before the combine, which players have been known to do. It's not out of the realm of possibility for him to run a 4.4, but I don't see it when I watch the highlights at 220lbs (if that was his playing weight). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Thought the exact same thing. Sign AJ Green and draft Viska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: We shouldn't try to project one play who will = another player in our scheme, in our offense, with our QB. I don't care of the guy is a Micheal Thomas, Julio, Megatron, Tyreek Hill (no beating up kids), etc. I want someone who has the skills to get separation, generate YAC, has a good catch radius, soft hands (catches with his hands), able to adjust for a ball, win 50/50 matchups and has good overall speed, acceleration and agility. We need to take the best WR on our board that we have a shot at getting He has to be 6-2 or taller He has to have a huge catch radius He needs to be near 4.5 He has to have reliable hands .....everything else is gravy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Watkins is almost like a hybrid receiver/running back with the ball in his hands, given his strength, ability to break tackles, and field vision. He can do the same on kickoff returns as well. From: https://www.si.com/2014/04/15/sammy-watkins-clemson-nfl-draft a d think we all agree Sammy didn't redefine the position, he's a good depth guy but not a number 1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 hours ago, billspro said: I would be surprised is he is slower. We will find out in a couple of weeks. I actually think he is going to be faster. It depends on your OC. A good OC could make him one of the top weapons in the NFL. I would prefer a good route runner though. The Bills are capable of developing athletes so I won’t be worried if we draft him. Yeah I can't wait for the combine Helps to answer a lot of questions. I do like that he can play in multiple spots, but his overall game play to me is lacklustre. He fights for extra yards but big deal to me. I'd rather a guy like Aiyuk who creates separation at the beginning and top of his routes and actually runs away from guys. I dont see the same with Shenault 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...don't get to see college ball, but is it conceivable that Beane trades down to 27 or 28 to grab an extra 2nd and then go WR in round 2?............ Maybe. But I think we go BPA round 1 and more likely to move up in round 2 for the WR we cover with the extra picks we own. But I'm probably wrong lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, aristocrat said: there is a scout that said shenault will run around 4.4. I'm all aboard the Shenault train although I'd be happy with a few different WRs in the 1st. There's a big difference between a 40 time and game speed, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. Laviska is plenty fast enough. The tape shows it. And I've compared him to Deebo in the past. I believe Shenault is more dynamic. 3 hours ago, H2o said: Go watch highlights of Patterson at Tennessee and then watch Shenault highlights. Same player, but Patterson is faster imo and excels in the return game. Just my 2. Patterson wasn't close to being a natural hands catcher. Laviska is. Shenault is nowhere near as raw as Patterson. Edited February 3, 2020 by Chicken Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I’m not fully sold on Shenault based on what I’ve seen so far. It looks like a high percentage of his catches are within a 5 yards of LOS. That doesn’t necessarily mean that he can’t get open/make plays further downfield, but for a 1st round pick, I’d want to see more direct evidence that he can. I look back to DJ Metcalf last year - he appeared to outplay his draft position and dispel the supposed negatives that pushed him well into round 2. Yet, he made many more downfield plays in college than I’ve seen so far from Shenault. I am open to change my opinion with more information, but at this point I would not touch Shenault in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 one thing i'm sure of is that beane will be drafting a guy with speed. nothing over 4.45 i'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, aristocrat said: one thing i'm sure of is that beane will be drafting a guy with speed. nothing over 4.45 i'd say. 4.5 with size isn't slow by any means, Eric Moulds supposed ran in that range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 this is great info! I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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