The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[RiotAct]

Just now, Chef Jim said:

 

Highmark Stadium??  

I meant Rich Stadium / The Ralph

[Chef Jim]

3 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

I meant Rich Stadium / The Ralph

 

Oh....those names I recognize.  LOL 

[Chef Jim]

From the annals of Covid hIstory.
 

My favorite app is nugs. It has thousands of streams of live concerts. I can listen to a show from tonight tomorrow morning.  I only listen to live music so it’s awesome. Anyway I’m listening to 311 in Vegas in March 13th 2020. That’s pretty much the day everything shut down.  I’m 9 songs in and not mention of Covid. 
 

I really wish I had kept a journal. 

[Governor]

New mandate.

 

Wear a condom and a mask: Health department advises Covid “safe” sex

 

Wash your hands and shower before and after having sex.

 

Avoid kissing because the Covid-19 virus can be spread through saliva.

 

Refrain from doing oral sex or having anal sex as Covid-19 virus can be contaminated in feces.

 

Use condoms, dental dams, and rubber gloves to reduce contact with saliva or other types of secretions.

Wear masks to cover your nose and mouth during sex to prevent the spread of infection through heavy breathing.

 

Favor positions where you are not face-to-face while having sex to avoid contact with saliva or other secretions and spend as little time as possible (Basically, have a quickie.)

 

Avoid group sex or swapping sex partners.

 

Use disinfectants such as 70% alcohol, detergent, bleach to clean the sleeping area or the surface where sex was performed.

Condoms, disposable tampons, dental dams, and rubber gloves infected with secretions should be thrown away in a covered bin.

 

 

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/wear-a-condom-and-a-mask-health-department-advises-covid-safe-sex

[RiotAct]

8 minutes ago, Governor said:

New mandate.

 

Wear a condom and a mask: Health department advises Covid “safe” sex

 

Wash your hands and shower before and after having sex.

 

Avoid kissing because the Covid-19 virus can be spread through saliva.

 

Refrain from doing oral sex or having anal sex as Covid-19 virus can be contaminated in feces.

 

Use condoms, dental dams, and rubber gloves to reduce contact with saliva or other types of secretions.

Wear masks to cover your nose and mouth during sex to prevent the spread of infection through heavy breathing.

 

Favor positions where you are not face-to-face while having sex to avoid contact with saliva or other secretions and spend as little time as possible (Basically, have a quickie.)

 

Avoid group sex or swapping sex partners.

 

Use disinfectants such as 70% alcohol, detergent, bleach to clean the sleeping area or the surface where sex was performed.

Condoms, disposable tampons, dental dams, and rubber gloves infected with secretions should be thrown away in a covered bin.

 

 

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/wear-a-condom-and-a-mask-health-department-advises-covid-safe-sex

Hahahaha.  So basically like The Handmaid’s Tale?

[Sundancer]

On 8/8/2021 at 11:04 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Oh, and @The Frankish Reich and Sunny D— just imagine the messaging that might have taken place had Barrack and Michelle Obama arranged a press conference, assembled the media and said something like this:

 

“We were so excited to celebrate Barrack’s 60th Birthday with our friends at our beautiful home.  We started planning for this celebration of a life well over a year ago when we were hopeful that the nation would be on the other side of this pandemic.  However, when it became apparent that the delta variant is an extremely dangerous adaptation of the virus, and when we saw the vaccination numbers stall nationally, we could not in good conscience push forward.
 

Together, we call on all Americans...rich and poor...tall and short....conservative, independent and liberal...to join us and get vaccinated.  To Black Americans specifically, we’re asking you to trust us on this, times have changed, we are on a brighter path—get vaccinated now.

 

Oh, and special shout out to Leh-nerd for reminding us all that being in a $25,000 tent, singing, dancing and partying is not the same as being outside!  You got us boy-eeee!”

Your coddling of Trump’s modeling is cute. 
 

You missed my point on Florida. I assume it’s no different there than it will be everywhere on cases and deaths and agree with DeSantis’s approach completely. Though he could be less a dick  and more compassionate. Turns out the situation in Florida is not great Gov. 

Edited August 12, 2021 by Sundancer

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

Your coddling of Trump’s modeling is cute. 
 

You missed my point on Florida. I assume it’s no different there than it sill be everywhere on cases and deaths and agree with DeSantis’s approach completely. Though he could be less a sick and more compassionate. Turns out the situation in Florida is not great Gov. 

Thanks for putting words in my mouth. 
 

Thanks for clarifying your thoughts on Florida.  It’s good to find common ground once in a while.  

[plenzmd1]

hmm, ya know its tough when even the Fact Checker for the WAPO agree with Stefanik and McCarthy

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/12/gops-attack-cdcs-mask-reversal-study-india/

 

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There’s already discussions about a mask mandate, which is not based upon science.”

— Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), interview on “Sunday Morning Futures,” Aug. 8

“Think about what the CDC did just this week. They forced vaccinated Americans to wear a mask because of a study in India about a vaccine that’s not even in America that has not been peer-reviewed.”

— House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), remarks to reporters, July 29

“The ‘game changer’ data the CDC used for the mask mandate is from a single study from India. The study was rejected in peer review. But CDC used it anyway.”

 

Quote

In a public health crisis, the preprint process has been extremely effective in pushing out information quickly that is needed to help form policy,” said Monica Gandhi, professor of medicine and associate division chief for HIV, infectious diseases and global medicine at the University of California at San Francisco. “Although we in the scientific community usually like to wait for peer-review, the covid-19 pandemic is a unique situation and basing policy from preprints and non-peer reviewed studies is likely fair to do as long as the study is reviewed independently by the CDC.”

But Gandhi, a specialist on masks, thought Stefanik was onto something when she questioned whether the information cited by the CDC actually supported urging vaccinated people to wear masks.

 

Quote

Gandhi dismissed the India study (more on that below) and has not been impressed with the follow-up information the CDC has cited as supporting the change in policy. “If the CDC is using this reason to put back masks, they don’t have enough evidence to do so (e.g. that vaccinated are as likely to spread as unvaccinated),” Gandhi wrote in an email. She pointed to other recent studies that cast doubt on the CDC’s analysis,

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

7 hours ago, Governor said:

New mandate.

 

Wear a condom and a mask: Health department advises Covid “safe” sex

 

Wash your hands and shower before and after having sex.

 

Avoid kissing because the Covid-19 virus can be spread through saliva.

 

Refrain from doing oral sex or having anal sex as Covid-19 virus can be contaminated in feces.

 

Use condoms, dental dams, and rubber gloves to reduce contact with saliva or other types of secretions.

Wear masks to cover your nose and mouth during sex to prevent the spread of infection through heavy breathing.

 

Favor positions where you are not face-to-face while having sex to avoid contact with saliva or other secretions and spend as little time as possible (Basically, have a quickie.)

 

Avoid group sex or swapping sex partners.

 

Use disinfectants such as 70% alcohol, detergent, bleach to clean the sleeping area or the surface where sex was performed.

Condoms, disposable tampons, dental dams, and rubber gloves infected with secretions should be thrown away in a covered bin.

 

 

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/wear-a-condom-and-a-mask-health-department-advises-covid-safe-sex

Speaking only for myself, I’m going to have to devote some serious time to improving my core if I’m going to commit to Reverse-Crab-Walk-Girl-on-Top while fully masked.  They call it the widowmaker in some cultures for a reason.  

[All_Pro_Bills]

6 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Speaking only for myself, I’m going to have to devote some serious time to improving my core if I’m going to commit to Reverse-Crab-Walk-Girl-on-Top while fully masked.  They call it the widowmaker in some cultures for a reason.  

I advise calling your health plan to verify coverage prior to attempting any such maneuver!  

[RiotAct]

Ruh roh, Raggy:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pfizers-vaccine-efficacy-dropped-42-105945416.html

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I advise calling your health plan to verify coverage prior to attempting any such maneuver!  

I work with a personal intimacy coach.  She’s $1,500 an hour and tells me she’s up to date on health insurance, legalities and vaccinations/shots.  
 

Nice lady—Dr. Candi.  I think she’s from Brazil. 
 

 

[Sundancer]

3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Thanks for putting words in my mouth. 
 

Thanks for clarifying your thoughts on Florida.  It’s good to find common ground once in a while.  

But still no negative comment on Trump and his example especially on vaccines?

 

Only time to chat about Obama’s vaccine and testing mandatory birthday party? 

1 hour ago, RiotAct said:

Ruh roh, Raggy:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pfizers-vaccine-efficacy-dropped-42-105945416.html

That doesn’t gibe with other studies. I’d wait on more info. It especially makes little sense as between Pfizer and Moderna since their mRNA approach is pretty much identical. 

[ALF]

Texas works to deploy 2,500+ out-of-state medical personnel to help with COVID-19 surge

 

“The priority is to recruit staff from out-of-state, and DSHS has directed the agencies not to utilize staff from other Texas health care facilities,” the agency said in a press release.

 

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/texas-works-to-deploy-2500-out-of-state-medical-personnel-to-help-with-covid-19-surge/

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

10 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

But still no negative comment on Trump and his example especially on vaccines?

 

Only time to chat about Obama’s vaccine and testing mandatory birthday party? 
 

I offered to provide thoughts on any Trump-related subject that was of interest to you.  I did that several days ago and didn’t hear back until now.  
 

My comments on the somewhat obvious hypocrisy on the Obama birthday bash were specific to the birthday bash.  Your query today is overly broad in that “Trump and Vaccines” spans nearly a year and took several twists and turns, but here are my thoughts generally:

 

-Early on, Trump’s leadership skills were poor, and I would give him a grade of F.  He was all over the page on describing what we were facing as a nation, he allowed himself to be victimized by his political opponents and at the end of the day, he was THE guy responsible for shaping the National  response.  His voice as not loud enough, not clear enough and as a result it was chaotic. 
 

As the crisis played out, he did better, organized an exceptional government response to working with key players in the industry responsible for developing and implementing a response.  I would give him an A for his performance there, especially in light of the hyper-politicization of virus management by dem political operatives working to sow seeds of chaos, mistrust in the science/vaccine development.  
 

I think on the political side, he missed opportunities to point out the disconnect between what D operatives were saying (COVID is a threat to our survival!) and their actions in support of mass gatherings that were clearly superspreader events, at least in context at the time, which certainly lead to a substantial increase in transmission and death.  
 

I think Trump’s teeing up the vaxxs gave Biden a substantial leg up in the fight against COVID, allowed for what should have been a slam dunk across the board, and Biden fumbled it quite badly.  Trump gets an A+ here, Biden an F for allowing his sycophants to encourage distrust of the vaxx is Trump was Prez v Biden in office.  He has been very weak in that regard.  
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

That doesn’t gibe with other studies. I’d wait on more info. It especially makes little sense as between Pfizer and Moderna since their mRNA approach is pretty much identical. 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Big Blitz]

Just Like After 9/11’: New Zealand to Close Borders for the Rest of the Year

 

 

 

 

New Zealand is closing its borders for the remainder of the year, continuing the country’s embrace of a total isolationist strategy in its fight against the coronavirus.

 

On Thursday, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said the country’s borders “will never be the same after” the pandemic, likening the situation to the 9/11 attacks.

 

 

According to Ardern, vaccinated travelers from low-risk countries would be allowed to enter the country in early 2022. Since the start of the pandemic, New Zealand adopted a strict border protection policy, which resulted in only 26 coronavirus-related deaths.

 

“If we give up our elimination approach too soon there is no going back, and we could see significant breakouts here like some countries overseas are experiencing who have opened up early in their vaccination rollout,” said Ardern.

 

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/08/12/just-like-after-9-11-new-zealand-to-close-borders-for-the-rest-of-the-year/

 

 

What's worse is this women is a hero to millions of lunatics here in the U.S.  

 

She handled Covid the "right way."  

 

[Sundancer]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I offered to provide thoughts on any Trump-related subject that was of interest to you.  I did that several days ago and didn’t hear back until now.  
 

My comments on the somewhat obvious hypocrisy on the Obama birthday bash were specific to the birthday bash.  Your query today is overly broad in that “Trump and Vaccines” spans nearly a year and took several twists and turns, but here are my thoughts generally:

 

-Early on, Trump’s leadership skills were poor, and I would give him a grade of F.  He was all over the page on describing what we were facing as a nation, he allowed himself to be victimized by his political opponents and at the end of the day, he was THE guy responsible for shaping the National  response.  His voice as not loud enough, not clear enough and as a result it was chaotic. 
 

As the crisis played out, he did better, organized an exceptional government response to working with key players in the industry responsible for developing and implementing a response.  I would give him an A for his performance there, especially in light of the hyper-politicization of virus management by dem political operatives working to sow seeds of chaos, mistrust in the science/vaccine development.  
 

I think on the political side, he missed opportunities to point out the disconnect between what D operatives were saying (COVID is a threat to our survival!) and their actions in support of mass gatherings that were clearly superspreader events, at least in context at the time, which certainly lead to a substantial increase in transmission and death.  
 

I think Trump’s teeing up the vaxxs gave Biden a substantial leg up in the fight against COVID, allowed for what should have been a slam dunk across the board, and Biden fumbled it quite badly.  Trump gets an A+ here, Biden an F for allowing his sycophants to encourage distrust of the vaxx is Trump was Prez v Biden in office.  He has been very weak in that regard.  
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your backbends to defend Trump and his vaccine example and whataboutism are remarkable. You can drop the veneer of objective thought you purport to have. 
 

Trump as president and immediate ex president should have been and continue to promote the vaccine. He should have gotten the shot on TV. He should be talking it up. Simple. 

 

Bracing for more comments about Obama, Biden, and the media. 

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Just Like After 9/11’: New Zealand to Close Borders for the Rest of the Year

 

 

 

 

New Zealand is closing its borders for the remainder of the year, continuing the country’s embrace of a total isolationist strategy in its fight against the coronavirus.

 

On Thursday, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said the country’s borders “will never be the same after” the pandemic, likening the situation to the 9/11 attacks.

 

 

According to Ardern, vaccinated travelers from low-risk countries would be allowed to enter the country in early 2022. Since the start of the pandemic, New Zealand adopted a strict border protection policy, which resulted in only 26 coronavirus-related deaths.

 

“If we give up our elimination approach too soon there is no going back, and we could see significant breakouts here like some countries overseas are experiencing who have opened up early in their vaccination rollout,” said Ardern.

 

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/08/12/just-like-after-9-11-new-zealand-to-close-borders-for-the-rest-of-the-year/

 

 

What's worse is this women is a hero to millions of lunatics here in the U.S.  

 

She handled Covid the "right way."  

 

You’re nuts. But so are little NZ politics. 

[dpberr]

56 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Just Like After 9/11’: New Zealand to Close Borders for the Rest of the Year

 

 

 

 

New Zealand is closing its borders for the remainder of the year, continuing the country’s embrace of a total isolationist strategy in its fight against the coronavirus.

 

On Thursday, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said the country’s borders “will never be the same after” the pandemic, likening the situation to the 9/11 attacks.

 

 

According to Ardern, vaccinated travelers from low-risk countries would be allowed to enter the country in early 2022. Since the start of the pandemic, New Zealand adopted a strict border protection policy, which resulted in only 26 coronavirus-related deaths.

 

“If we give up our elimination approach too soon there is no going back, and we could see significant breakouts here like some countries overseas are experiencing who have opened up early in their vaccination rollout,” said Ardern.

 

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/08/12/just-like-after-9-11-new-zealand-to-close-borders-for-the-rest-of-the-year/

 

 

What's worse is this women is a hero to millions of lunatics here in the U.S.  

 

She handled Covid the "right way."  

 

 

 

Keep protesting nicely NZ and Australia.  Don't get too rowdy.  The army would appreciate you wrap up your organized shouting by 5pm, a few hours before curfew.  

 

 

[Chef Jim]

8 hours ago, Sundancer said:

Your coddling of Trump’s modeling is cute. 
 

You missed my point on Florida. I assume it’s no different there than it will be everywhere on cases and deaths and agree with DeSantis’s approach completely. Though he could be less a dick  and more compassionate. Turns out the situation in Florida is not great Gov. 

 

I think we need more politicians that are *****.  Being overly compassionate is the reason we have ***** cities like Oakland with Libby The Hand Wringer Schaaf

[Big Blitz]

Anyone doubt we're at war yet.  They sense the West is going to shutdown 

 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

47 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Anyone doubt we're at war yet.  They sense the West is going to shutdown 

 

 

 

 

Another Twit for Brains.  It was not fully shut down.  

[Sundancer]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I think we need more politicians that are *****.  Being overly compassionate is the reason we have ***** cities like Oakland with Libby The Hand Wringer Schaaf

Not the topic on the table. And also, not specific. If you don’t think AOC is a dick, you’re not paying attention. Voting for ***** is a solution to nothing. 

43 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Another Twit for Brains.  It was not fully shut down.  

And it was not for one case. But besides that, good source. Big Blitz fail. Again. 

[Chef Jim]

41 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

Not the topic on the table. And also, not specific. If you don’t think AOC is a dick, you’re not paying attention. Voting for ***** is a solution to nothing. 

And it was not for one case. But besides that, good source. Big Blitz fail. Again. 

 

When I say a dick I mean leading with an attitude of tough love with an emphasis on tough.  Politicians need to stop doing what's popular, worrying about keeping their phony baloney jobs and start doing what's right and that means stop coddling people.  

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Another Twit for Brains.  It was not fully shut down.  

 

Seems rather significant to me.  Over 1 corona case like it's January 2020:

 

 

 

China shuts terminal at world’s 3rd busiest port after COVID case

 

 

China partly shut the world’s third-busiest container port after a worker became infected with COVID-19, raising fears that it could further strain shipping and drive up prices of goods, which could fuel inflation.

 

 

China partly shut the world’s third-busiest container port after a worker became infected with Covid, threatening more damage to already fragile supply chains and global trade as a key shopping season nears.

 

All inbound and outbound container services at Meishan terminal in Ningbo-Zhoushan port were halted Wednesday until further notice due to a “system disruption,” according to a statement from the port. An employee tested positive for coronavirus, the eastern Chinese city’s government said.

 

The closed terminal accounts for about 25% of container cargo through the port, calculates security consultant GardaWorld, which said “the suspension could severely impact cargo handling and shipping.” Germany’s Hapag-Lloyd AG said there will be a delay in sailings.

 

This is the second recent shutdown of a Chinese port due to the coronavirus, after the closure of Yantian port in Shenzhen from late May for about a month. That led goods to back up in factories and storage yards and also likely lifted soaring freight rates, which are at record levels and a source of inflation.

 

The fear is that this new disruption will further strain shipping and supplies of goods, dampening growth and driving up prices. An extended shuttering at Ningbo could be especially painful for the world economy because seaborne trade usually rises toward the end of the year as companies ship Christmas and holiday products.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/8/12/china-shuts-terminal-at-worlds-3rd-busiest-port-after-covid-case

[Chef Jim]

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Seems rather significant to me.  Over 1 corona case like it's January 2020:

 

 

 

China shuts terminal at world’s 3rd busiest port after COVID case

 

 

China partly shut the world’s third-busiest container port after a worker became infected with COVID-19, raising fears that it could further strain shipping and drive up prices of goods, which could fuel inflation.

 

 

China partly shut the world’s third-busiest container port after a worker became infected with Covid, threatening more damage to already fragile supply chains and global trade as a key shopping season nears.

 

All inbound and outbound container services at Meishan terminal in Ningbo-Zhoushan port were halted Wednesday until further notice due to a “system disruption,” according to a statement from the port. An employee tested positive for coronavirus, the eastern Chinese city’s government said.

 

The closed terminal accounts for about 25% of container cargo through the port, calculates security consultant GardaWorld, which said “the suspension could severely impact cargo handling and shipping.” Germany’s Hapag-Lloyd AG said there will be a delay in sailings.

 

This is the second recent shutdown of a Chinese port due to the coronavirus, after the closure of Yantian port in Shenzhen from late May for about a month. That led goods to back up in factories and storage yards and also likely lifted soaring freight rates, which are at record levels and a source of inflation.

 

The fear is that this new disruption will further strain shipping and supplies of goods, dampening growth and driving up prices. An extended shuttering at Ningbo could be especially painful for the world economy because seaborne trade usually rises toward the end of the year as companies ship Christmas and holiday products.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/8/12/china-shuts-terminal-at-worlds-3rd-busiest-port-after-covid-case

Read that Tweet you posted compared to the article you linked and tell us the discrepancy. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 hours ago, Sundancer said:

Your backbends to defend Trump and his vaccine example and whataboutism are remarkable. You can drop the veneer of objective thought you purport to have. 
 

Trump as president and immediate ex president should have been and continue to promote the vaccine. He should have gotten the shot on TV. He should be talking it up. Simple. 

 

Bracing for more comments about Obama, Biden, and the media. 
 

In a post discussing COVID 19, I discussed a former president and his social influencer pro vax pro post vax mask friends getting together in a large group when the current president and his group is suggesting that’s dangerous behavior.    
 

Your response was in part “whataboutism and Trump and stuff?”.  Since I don’t subscribe to the internet lowest common denominator of “whataboutism” being something to fear,  I asked you directly to be more specific about Trump.  I didn’t backbend, somersault, dodge, evade or triple lutz…I just asked for clarity, so I could share my opinion in response to your whatabout Trump question.   
 

Your reply was “Trump and vaccines”, which I found to be a bit broad, but opted to push ahead since you extended the courtesy of a reply.   
 

I summarized my point of view, never claimed the mantle of objectivity, I just told you what I thought.   I didn’t ask you to concur, call you Sponge Bob Stupid  Pants if you disagreed, I just answered a very broad question understanding the purposeful nature of asking a question that would be interpreted differently by every person who tried to answer. 
 

Now, I see the real question has nothing to do with development of vaccine, getting it to market, or anything like that.  You just wanted to know my thoughts on whether or not Trump should have been vaccinated on live television, and whether or not he should be out selling the vaxx protocol.
 

Here’s my direct reply to those questions: 

 

1. I don’t think it matters if he actively promotes the vaccine or not. Damage  was done to the psyche of the American people when Harris and the like were trashing the program preemptively in late 2020.   Trump supporters know he was vaccinated, know the landscape and decide to vaxx or not as they see fit.   Those that hate and despise Trump likely would conclude there was something nefarious afoot since they were previously warned not to trust the vaxx developed during the Trump admin.   

 

2.  It’s irrelevant whether or not Trump was vaccinated privately or in a breaking news segment when Old Man Sundancer was watching “Father Knows Best” on the console.  It’s not 1964 Gramps.  
 

 

 

[Sundancer]

45 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

In a post discussing COVID 19, I discussed a former president and his social influencer pro vax pro post vax mask friends getting together in a large group when the current president and his group is suggesting that’s dangerous behavior.    
 

Your response was in part “whataboutism and Trump and stuff?”.  Since I don’t subscribe to the internet lowest common denominator of “whataboutism” being something to fear,  I asked you directly to be more specific about Trump.  I didn’t backbend, somersault, dodge, evade or triple lutz…I just asked for clarity, so I could share my opinion in response to your whatabout Trump question.   
 

Your reply was “Trump and vaccines”, which I found to be a bit broad, but opted to push ahead since you extended the courtesy of a reply.   
 

I summarized my point of view, never claimed the mantle of objectivity, I just told you what I thought.   I didn’t ask you to concur, call you Sponge Bob Stupid  Pants if you disagreed, I just answered a very broad question understanding the purposeful nature of asking a question that would be interpreted differently by every person who tried to answer. 
 

Now, I see the real question has nothing to do with development of vaccine, getting it to market, or anything like that.  You just wanted to know my thoughts on whether or not Trump should have been vaccinated on live television, and whether or not he should be out selling the vaxx protocol.
 

Here’s my direct reply to those questions: 

 

1. I don’t think it matters if he actively promotes the vaccine or not. Damage  was done to the psyche of the American people when Harris and the like were trashing the program preemptively in late 2020.   Trump supporters know he was vaccinated, know the landscape and decide to vaxx or not as they see fit.   Those that hate and despise Trump likely would conclude there was something nefarious afoot since they were previously warned not to trust the vaxx developed during the Trump admin.   

 

2.  It’s irrelevant whether or not Trump was vaccinated privately or in a breaking news segment when Old Man Sundancer was watching “Father Knows Best” on the console.  It’s not 1964 Gramps.  
 

 

 

You should start a comedy act. But be sure not to mention that you’re objective in any way again. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

44 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

You should start a comedy act. But be sure not to mention that you’re objective in any way again. 

Why are you asking my opinion if you’re predetermined to be prickly about the reply?   It’s a bit hurtful, makes me sad and makes you an untrustworthy dialogue companion.   We may be at a crossroads here.  

 

 

[plenzmd1]

Hmm, not so sure of this study, but it is scary if proven true.

 

Guess what I dont understand is if people are working from home, are they making the conscious decision to not employ childcare to save money?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

[Sundancer]

56 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Hmm, not so sure of this study, but it is scary if proven true.

 

Guess what I dont understand is if people are working from home, are they making the conscious decision to not employ childcare to save money?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

Study is early but there can be Iittle doubt children suffered more than anyone except the elderly since March 2020. 

Edited August 13, 2021 by Sundancer

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

Hmm, not so sure of this study, but it is scary if proven true.

 

Guess what I dont understand is if people are working from home, are they making the conscious decision to not employ childcare to save money?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

How do you test the IQ of a child 18 months  and younger?

 

And no, I did not read the article. 

[plenzmd1]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

How do you test the IQ of a child 18 months  and younger?

 

And no, I did not read the article. 

yea, i dont know about that either..i assume via some kind tactile test...like i said i have my questions about the study 

[Sundancer]

9 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

How do you test the IQ of a child 18 months  and younger?

 

And no, I did not read the article. 

 

Read the article. The headline sucks, though the testing method makes sense and they looked at kids up to about 3. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

18 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

When I first dated my wife, I told her I made $786,000 a year as a stockbroker on Wall Street.

 

I told her after she had committed that I actually made $9,400 as a part-time register clerk at Mighty Taco, and that Wall Street wasn’t in Cheektowaga.  
 

To her credit, she was very understanding and realized I was just embellishing a bit because she was a 9 and I was a 4.  

[Sundancer]

58 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

An online non profit “paper” made an error that it corrected within an hour?

 

OUTRAGE!!!!

[Chef Jim]

44 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

Read the article. The headline sucks, though the testing method makes sense and they looked at kids up to about 3. 

No thanks. I won’t give them the click.  Children over 18 months were not born during Covid.  I can’t stand deceptive headlines. Why I’ve been calling out people posting BS Tweets. 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Sundancer said:

An online non profit “paper” made an error that it corrected within an hour?

 

OUTRAGE!!!!

 

Yeah, that's the simple explanation.  I'm sure the retraction was as widely publicized as the original headline...

[RiotAct]

2 hours ago, Sundancer said:

An online non profit “paper” made an error that it corrected within an hour?

 

OUTRAGE!!!!

unfortunately people use headlines to drive their opinions on certain things.   Crazy, I know…