Westside Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sundancer said: I would hope rational people now recognize the travel bans are useless unless you plan on going the China/New Zealand route. Trump had a first hand exposure to Covid weeks after our shutdown. Once something this contagious is here, it's here. Stopping some cases coming in on planes is putting your pinky in the crumbling Hoover Dam. So you’re saying biden is racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sundancer said: I would hope rational people now recognize the travel bans are useless unless you plan on going the China/New Zealand route. Trump had a first hand exposure to Covid weeks after our shutdown. Once something this contagious is here, it's here. Stopping some cases coming in on planes is putting your pinky in the crumbling Hoover Dam. Especially when anybody and everybody that wants to wade across the Rio Grande to enter the country can do so unimpeded. For some reason nobody in charge gives a hoot if people entering under those conditions are infected. Maybe Lord Fauci (aka "The Science") provided a waiver of some sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, Sundancer said: I would hope rational people now recognize the travel bans are useless unless you plan on going the China/New Zealand route. Trump had a first hand exposure to Covid weeks after our shutdown. Once something this contagious is here, it's here. Stopping some cases coming in on planes is putting your pinky in the crumbling Hoover Dam. So Joey's racist and dumb for not seeing what happened under Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Doc said: So Joey's racist and dumb for not seeing what happened under Trump? Not sure he's racist but they both appear to be pretty dumb. Biden is dumber on this because he's got more lessons by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, Sundancer said: Not sure he's racist but they both appear to be pretty dumb. Biden is dumber on this because he's got more lessons by now. Well Trump was called racist by Dems for doing it last year. As for being dumb, wrong. Sure the virus was/is likely already in the country, but shutting down travel and limiting the exponential increase in cases from each new case that would otherwise have entered is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Hahahahaha the only cause for concern is his government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 When you're the actual people in charge the correct answer is to shut down the travel. When you're just playing politics and taking pot shots from the cheap seats, you make stupid statements and call the people in charge 'racists'. The Democratic leadership exposed themselves on this last year. They should be shunned! Absolutely HORRIBLE from Chuck, Nancy and Joe....as usual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Hahahahaha the only cause for concern is his government So he's not taking it seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, Doc said: Well Trump was called racist by Dems for doing it last year. As for being dumb, wrong. Sure the virus was/is likely already in the country, but shutting down travel and limiting the exponential increase in cases from each new case that would otherwise have entered is a good idea. So you're for shutting down internally then to reduce transmission? That's stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, Doc said: Well Trump was called racist by Dems for doing it last year. As for being dumb, wrong. Sure the virus was/is likely already in the country, but shutting down travel and limiting the exponential increase in cases from each new case that would otherwise have entered is a good idea. That's the advantage and benefit of having the media engaged as the propaganda organization of your political party. When the opposition does it they're evil. When you do it there's praise and all is good. And critics that dare to object are silenced, chastised, and ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: When you're the actual people in charge the correct answer is to shut down the travel. When you're just playing politics and taking pot shots from the cheap seats, you make stupid statements and call the people in charge 'racists'. The Democratic leadership exposed themselves on this last year. They should be shunned! Absolutely HORRIBLE from Chuck, Nancy and Joe....as usual. Reps are doing the same thing. It was OK to shutdown last year. This year it's not OK. Suit up in your partisan uniform, no matter how stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sundancer said: So you're for shutting down internally then to reduce transmission? That's stupid. Where did I say "internally"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Sundancer said: Reps are doing the same thing. It was OK to shutdown last year. This year it's not OK. Suit up in your partisan uniform, no matter how stupid. I simply can't agree with you there. Republicans were OK with the first two weeks of Flattening the Curve, and not much at all after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I simply can't agree with you there. Republicans were OK with the first two weeks of Flattening the Curve, and not much at all after that. Are you kidding? Trump took endless credit for shutting down travel and saving "millions" of lives. 2 hours ago, Doc said: Where did I say "internally"? Oh OK, so your point, amusing as it is, is that stopping people from arriving into the US is going to make a big difference when the virus is already circulating? This has been proven untrue how many times already in this pandemic? But OK, if that's what you want to go with. Travel ban: Stupid then, stupid now. Bad for the economy and like pissing on the spark plug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 And now they want to pretend this new variant found in South Africa WILL CAUSE ANOTHER SURGE and may end up locking us all down so everyone better get more shots and wear more masks. Even though they really don’t know diddly about it. Which, of course, Brit was good enough to point out: Extremely mild. No hospitalizations. Almost as if COVID is behaving like other viruses and its mutations are becoming less severe, even if they are more transmissible. Sort of like OTHER viruses we’ve been living with for a long long loooooong time. Crazy, right? The doctor who discovered omicron described her patients’ symptoms https://qz.com/2095354/what-are-the-symptoms-of-the-omicron-variant/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Expect the move to Free states to continue. No one going to live in deep blue ***t holes. Also... Going to happen in every sport. If Free states can't or won't sign a guy that's the only chance the Oppressed States have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Sundancer said: Are you kidding? Trump took endless credit for shutting down travel and saving "millions" of lives. Huh? Yes, Trump took credit for it. That’s the entire point! The Democrats called him racist for it. Now Biden is proposing the SAME THING. It wasn’t motivated by racism when Trump did it and it isn’t racist now. You don’t get the hypocrisy here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) Wait. This needed a study? COVID rules are blamed for 23% dive in young children's development: Disturbing study shows scores in three key cognitive tests slumped between 2018 and 2021, with face mask rules among possible culprits Face masks and other social distancing measures may in fact impede on children's development, a new study executed by Brown University has found The probe analyzed the cognitive development of the youngsters through infancy, childhood and adolescence In the study, researchers first analyzed 1,070 assessments administered on 605 kids prior to March 2020, when COVID lockdowns and masking began A further 154 assessments from 118 kids administered between March 2020 and June 2021, during the height of the pandemic, were then carried out Thirty-nine children born in 2018 and 2019 were analyzed over the course of the pandemic, into 2021. The report found that there was a 23 per cent drop in scores measuring kids' intelligence quotients since the start of the pandemic The study also found similar dips in the same span in regards to developing children's ability to communicate, both verbally and though subtle facial cues https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10247315/Face-masks-harm-childrens-development-Study-blames-significantly-reduced-development.html The kids will be fine Hey you should have data now after 4 months of maskless Florida schools vs the oppressed Blue states. Where are the numbers on kids in maskless schools vs masked? My guess as to why you don't have it is because it won't help the coup. Edited November 29, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Sundancer said: Oh OK, so your point, amusing as it is, is that stopping people from arriving into the US is going to make a big difference when the virus is already circulating? This has been proven untrue how many times already in this pandemic? But OK, if that's what you want to go with. Travel ban: Stupid then, stupid now. Bad for the economy and like pissing on the spark plug: Just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Doc said: Just stop. Demonstrating your illogic to you hurts eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 It’s very easy to understand when you abandon the assumption that any of this has been about public health, from the very first mask mandates onward. It was never, ever, ever, ever about health. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Flight ban to Africa looking even dumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Reasons #57907 why this is all a sham. Where does the supposed leader of the "fight" against covid appear to update us on his whims and power grabs for the state I'm sorry I mean public health? The Sunday morning political shows! And don't question him. He'll tell ya that GOP Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Ted Cruz (Texas) on Monday fired back at chief White House medical adviser Anthony Fauci after he gave an in-depth interview in which he called their criticisms "dangerous." While sitting down with "Face the Nation" host Margaret Brennan, Fauci suggested that lawmakers like Paul and Cruz were targeting him to distract from scandals associated with the Trump administration, such as the Jan. 6 Capitol attack. "So it's easy to criticize, but they're really criticizing science because I represent science," Fauci said in the interview. "That's dangerous. To me, that's more dangerous than the slings and the arrows that get thrown at me. I'm not going to be around here forever, but science is going to be here forever. And if you damage science, you are doing something very detrimental to society long after I leave. And that's what I worry about." https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/583346-paul-cruz-fire-back-after-fauci-says-criticism-of-him-is-dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, Sundancer said: Flight ban to Africa looking even dumber. So…the current admin presides over an ever-growing death count, apparently can’t get a handle on how to market the vax, delays vax mandates repeatedly for federal employees they actually can control, and has no clue where the virus has spread to and banned travel specially from South Africa after indicating any such ban by a president must be racially motivated. You have to question everything this admin says and does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Reasons #57907 why this is all a sham. Where does the supposed leader of the "fight" against covid appear to update us on his whims and power grabs for the state I'm sorry I mean public health? The Sunday morning political shows! And don't question him. He'll tell ya that GOP Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Ted Cruz (Texas) on Monday fired back at chief White House medical adviser Anthony Fauci after he gave an in-depth interview in which he called their criticisms "dangerous." While sitting down with "Face the Nation" host Margaret Brennan, Fauci suggested that lawmakers like Paul and Cruz were targeting him to distract from scandals associated with the Trump administration, such as the Jan. 6 Capitol attack. "So it's easy to criticize, but they're really criticizing science because I represent science," Fauci said in the interview. "That's dangerous. To me, that's more dangerous than the slings and the arrows that get thrown at me. I'm not going to be around here forever, but science is going to be here forever. And if you damage science, you are doing something very detrimental to society long after I leave. And that's what I worry about." https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/583346-paul-cruz-fire-back-after-fauci-says-criticism-of-him-is-dangerous He's sounding increasingly unhinged, and seems to be approaching the megalomaniac stage. Is he suggesting that Cruz and Paul have been implicated in 1/6 in any way? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 My God the world is full of cowards. That's the only way to describe people buying this at this point. I believe that more then I believe you're that stupid. Maybe it's both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 13-10! NY Times doesn't mention in headline! But don't take HCQ!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Just shut it all down! 15 more days to see what happens!! WHO urges those over 60 to nix international travel amid Omicron https://nypost.com/2021/11/30/who-urges-those-over-60-to-nix-international-travel/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 If you read this tweet as if Fox is doing something wrong, you're definitely a member of the Branch Covidians. If you read this as "absolutely, why are we still talking about the flu?" then you love freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Big Blitz said: If you read this tweet as if Fox is doing something wrong, you're definitely a member of the Branch Covidians. If you read this as "absolutely, why are we still talking about the flu?" then you love freedom and democracy. The bigger question is why in the world does anyone read ANYTHING on Twitter? Who cares what some nitwit puts into an arbitrary number of characters. The entire platform is garbage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) On 11/30/2021 at 5:32 AM, Sundancer said: Demonstrating your illogic to you hurts eh? No, just trying to prevent you from looking even sillier. You're welcome. I'm here to help. Edited December 1, 2021 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 15 hours ago, BillStime said: "Our people?" You and your people's fear is the ONLY thing driving the state to prolong this sham indefinitely. They tell you that every time they update you on the Sunday political shows. If in March of 2020, you were entering your last 5 years on earth, about 60% of your time left will be under this sham. And you blaming VOTERS is exactly why it won't end. I don't expect you to get the message. That's some perspective for people that have no real clue what's happening. Because if you think this ends (we swear no one will put up with any more of this for another year), you are mistaken. As long as Team Eradicate the Flu is scared that's it. YEARS. End game is a full fledged police state because they're scared and de facto handed over your rights to the State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 And mask mandates do jack ***t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) A must-watch Australian documentary and the follow-up discussion featuring a special guest from the US media: Edited December 1, 2021 by SydneyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 12 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: The bigger question is why in the world does anyone read ANYTHING on Twitter? Who cares what some nitwit puts into an arbitrary number of characters. The entire platform is garbage. It’s Twit For Brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Ex-White House official says Trump showed 'flagrant lack of regard for public health' in keeping positive Covid test secret According to Meadows, Trump received the positive test on September 26, 2020, three days ahead of his first presidential debate with Joe Biden. The then-President also received a negative test in that timeframe. The day of the reported positive test, Trump hosted a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden for then-Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett, which was later deemed a super spreader event, by medical experts. At least 12 people who attended the event later tested positive. Trump was subsequently tested with "the Binax system," an antigen test for Covid-19, and returned a negative result, Meadows wrote. According to the FDA's guidelines, when using the Binax test, "negative results do not rule out SARS-Covid-2 infection and should not be used as the sole basis for treatment or patient management decisions, including infection control decision." He announced on October 2, 2020, that he and first lady Melania Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. He was hospitalized later that night. https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/01/politics/alyssa-farah-trump-covid-test-biden-debate-cnntv/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, ALF said: Ex-White House official says Trump showed 'flagrant lack of regard for public health' in keeping positive Covid test secret According to Meadows, Trump received the positive test on September 26, 2020, three days ahead of his first presidential debate with Joe Biden. The then-President also received a negative test in that timeframe. The day of the reported positive test, Trump hosted a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden for then-Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett, which was later deemed a super spreader event, by medical experts. At least 12 people who attended the event later tested positive. Trump was subsequently tested with "the Binax system," an antigen test for Covid-19, and returned a negative result, Meadows wrote. According to the FDA's guidelines, when using the Binax test, "negative results do not rule out SARS-Covid-2 infection and should not be used as the sole basis for treatment or patient management decisions, including infection control decision." He announced on October 2, 2020, that he and first lady Melania Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. He was hospitalized later that night. https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/01/politics/alyssa-farah-trump-covid-test-biden-debate-cnntv/index.html They can just say the Presidents condition was a "national security issue" which supersedes any guidelines or rules created by the FDA. That excuse always works for everybody else whenever the government gets caught doing something without any exceptions and they always get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 So it was a false positive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: So it was a false positive? Not likely , he was admitted to the hospital 2 Oct 2020 for covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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