The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Sundancer]

2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

If you believe I am in any way expressing anger then we're just not communicated effectively here.  I would support exemptions if proof was presented that the participants in the event posed zero threat to each other but that simply isn't true.  Officials are making a wild and false assumption that vaccinated people can't get sick and can't transmit the virus and that is medically known to be false.  So exemptions are bogus.

No. They are making I am sure the very true assumption that vaxxed people rarely die or use up hospital beds, transmit less virus over less time, resist the virus better, oh and everyone was getting tested within 2 days of the event, so pretty minimal risk. 
 

But by all means let it get to you. 

[Big Blitz]

12 hours ago, Sundancer said:

 

He was vaccinated and out dining. I go everywhere unmasked. How is this news in your orbit? 

 

 

 

 

He can because per the rules he is vaccinated.

 

But he has it.  

 

And can spread it.   

 

But you need the vaccine to take off the mask no wait, to have a job.   

 

[Sundancer]

9 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

He can because per the rules he is vaccinated.

 

But he has it.  

 

And can spread it.   

 

But you need the vaccine to take off the mask no wait, to have a job.   

 

You can’t even read. He was out dining the day BEFORE he tested positive. 
 

Get vaccinated. Why? Because it works. Any other messaging around the vaccine is stupid. 

[Big Blitz]

7 hours ago, Sundancer said:

You can’t even read. He was out dining the day BEFORE he tested positive. 
 

Get vaccinated. Why? Because it works. Any other messaging around the vaccine is stupid. 

 

 

So he did not have Covid the day before?

 

You know this how?  

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[Sundancer]

On 9/23/2021 at 3:29 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

So he did not have Covid the day before?

 

You know this how?  

 

He announced that he had Covid the day after he was in public. So I guess he could have been out intentionally infecting everyone but I don't see why anyone would think that given that there's no evidence of it. He also may have slipped a rufi into someone's drink and gave the restaurant an upper decker. Who knows, right? 

[Big Blitz]

28 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is some pandemic.

 

It's so bad we don't really care if we have to fire front line health care workers. 

 

 

And, the people whos lives we've almost completely destroyed (the kids), we'll fire often the only people in their lives that they know care about them and who they look forward to seeing everyday - in person.  

 

 

 

 

How did this get under control without Australian like protocols and prison....I mean quarantine camps?

 

 

 

Edited September 27, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Big Blitz]

Super serious everyone this is NOT political we swear super serious!!!!

 

 

 

COVID-19 continues to wallop Republican states and areas in the US as partisan vaccine refusal persists

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-19-vaccine-refusal-continues-to-wallop-impact-republican-states-2021-9

 

 

 

This is why Biden went to.......Chicago! to pitch vaccines...

 

Science!!

[Big Blitz]

In other words, never....

 

Of course the follow up to this should be....."why?"   And "what's the problem?"  You're about to fire health care workers....not sure where our hospitals are overwhelmed..

 

 

 

There is a reason they have never said "return to normal."

Edited September 27, 2021 by Big Blitz

[BillStime]

On 9/21/2021 at 11:21 AM, Irv said:

Demented Biden advisers playing politics with masks and vaccinations.  They have totally botched handling the Delta variant.  Total incompetence on all levels.

 

What

A

Mess 

Politics. Now do guns.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Politics. Now do guns.

 

 

Huh?

Now do logic

[BillStime]

22 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Huh?

Now do logic

 
It has to be spelled out for you? Cmon you're smarting than this.

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 
It has to be spelled out for you? Cmon you're smarting than this.

If you want to change the constitution go ahead and do so. It’s been done many times in our history. Go for it! 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

If you want to change the constitution go ahead and do so. It’s been done many times in our history. Go for it! 

Makes sense - the pro life cult has zero interest in the health and safety of our children.

Sick 

 

[SoCal Deek]

6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Makes sense - the pro life cult has zero interest in the health and safety of our children.

Sick 

 

Blah blah blah

 

Let me know when you have that Constitutional Amendment drafted and I’ll be happy to give it a good first reading. 

[plenzmd1]

9 hours ago, BillStime said:

Politics. Now do guns.

 

 

that is what people are protesting...

 

in terms of guns you have this

https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2021/8/2/22606411/illinois-gun-laws-universal-background-checks-seizure-revoked-firearm-licenses-pritzker

 

And yet, I heard Obama on TV today claim the gun violence in Chicago due to gun laws...and nothing else. 100% gun laws.

 

No policies outside of gun laws had any effect on escalating gun violence ,,,hmm interesting

 

[Big Blitz]

Read carefully 

 

 

 

UNC-Wilmington student declared brain dead weeks after testing positive for COVID-19

 

Less than a week after moving in, his mother, Tamra Demello, said Gilreath called her saying he tested positive for coronavirus.

 

Demello said her son wasn't vaccinated and wasn't planning on getting the shot when he was diagnosed with the virus.

 

Gilreath went on to spend three weeks in an area hospital with a severe sinus infection from COVID-19, which then spread to his brain.

 

https://www.wcnc.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/unc-wilmington-student-brain-dead-weeks-after-testing-positive-coronavirus/275-80b92ab8-2711-48fd-a07d-59db7775081c

 

 

 

20-year-old who believed he was too healthy to need COVID vaccine dies, NC mom says

 

 

Tamra Demello had been begging her son Tyler Gilreath to get the COVID-19 vaccine for months.

 

And for months, the 20-year-old resisted getting the shot, telling his mother he was young, healthy and didn’t have any pre-existing conditions, and therefore he didn’t need the vaccine’s protection.

 

“When they’re 20, you can’t make them do what they don’t want to do anymore,” Demello said in an interview Tuesday with The News & Observer. “You can cajole, you can threaten. I can’t physically pick him up and put him in the car.”

 

Finally, Gilreath agreed, just in time for his mother’s 60th birthday on Aug. 30. He told her he would get vaccinated once he reached the University of North Carolina at Wilmington, where he would be a sophomore and planned to major in computer science.

 

But he never got a chance. Within days of Demello driving him from their home in Cary to Wilmington, he tested positive for the coronavirus around Aug. 20, she said. On Sept. 27, after going through three weeks of severe illness, Gilreath died.

 

The pain of her son’s “senseless” death is immense, but Demello is urging parents of children who haven’t yet been vaccinated to get them to do so immediately.

 

While he was sick, he developed a sinus infection that made its way to his cranial cavity. Eventually Demello’s brain experienced too much swelling. On Sept. 26, doctors confirmed he was not going to survive, and a day later, they took him off life support.

 

“We’re just hoping if we can just convince these young people who think they’re invincible, you know, that this active, healthy, not ever really sick kid — if this can happen to him from those complications, that it can happen to them too,” Demello said.

 

Over the three weeks after Gilreath tested positive for COVID-19, he was “extremely sick,” his mother said, running a 102 degree fever and experiencing nausea and other symptoms. Around Sept. 7, his fever and other major symptoms had mostly abated, and he had tested negative for the coronavirus.

 

Still, he had headaches, and his feelings of lethargy seemed to be “leftover effects of COVID,” she said.

 

When he went to the doctor’s office, however, Gilreath found out he had a sinus infection. It was a few days before he could get a prescription for oral antibiotics filled and start taking the medicine. By that point, the infection had combined with a staph infection and had started to move toward his brain, Demello said.

 

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article254580002.html

 

 

 

Google his name read how it's all presented to you.  This is not to downplay his death only a moron would draw that conclusion.

 

But when you test negative and are clear of symptoms then something else happens 2 weeks later.......this is a "Covid death" now?  

 

And if it isn't, it's certainly reported as if it is.  

 

 

[GaryPinC]

On 9/28/2021 at 6:19 PM, Big Blitz said:

Read carefully 

 

 

 

UNC-Wilmington student declared brain dead weeks after testing positive for COVID-19

 

Less than a week after moving in, his mother, Tamra Demello, said Gilreath called her saying he tested positive for coronavirus.

 

Demello said her son wasn't vaccinated and wasn't planning on getting the shot when he was diagnosed with the virus.

 

Gilreath went on to spend three weeks in an area hospital with a severe sinus infection from COVID-19, which then spread to his brain.

 

https://www.wcnc.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/unc-wilmington-student-brain-dead-weeks-after-testing-positive-coronavirus/275-80b92ab8-2711-48fd-a07d-59db7775081c

 

 

 

20-year-old who believed he was too healthy to need COVID vaccine dies, NC mom says

 

 

Tamra Demello had been begging her son Tyler Gilreath to get the COVID-19 vaccine for months.

 

And for months, the 20-year-old resisted getting the shot, telling his mother he was young, healthy and didn’t have any pre-existing conditions, and therefore he didn’t need the vaccine’s protection.

 

“When they’re 20, you can’t make them do what they don’t want to do anymore,” Demello said in an interview Tuesday with The News & Observer. “You can cajole, you can threaten. I can’t physically pick him up and put him in the car.”

 

Finally, Gilreath agreed, just in time for his mother’s 60th birthday on Aug. 30. He told her he would get vaccinated once he reached the University of North Carolina at Wilmington, where he would be a sophomore and planned to major in computer science.

 

But he never got a chance. Within days of Demello driving him from their home in Cary to Wilmington, he tested positive for the coronavirus around Aug. 20, she said. On Sept. 27, after going through three weeks of severe illness, Gilreath died.

 

The pain of her son’s “senseless” death is immense, but Demello is urging parents of children who haven’t yet been vaccinated to get them to do so immediately.

 

While he was sick, he developed a sinus infection that made its way to his cranial cavity. Eventually Demello’s brain experienced too much swelling. On Sept. 26, doctors confirmed he was not going to survive, and a day later, they took him off life support.

 

“We’re just hoping if we can just convince these young people who think they’re invincible, you know, that this active, healthy, not ever really sick kid — if this can happen to him from those complications, that it can happen to them too,” Demello said.

 

Over the three weeks after Gilreath tested positive for COVID-19, he was “extremely sick,” his mother said, running a 102 degree fever and experiencing nausea and other symptoms. Around Sept. 7, his fever and other major symptoms had mostly abated, and he had tested negative for the coronavirus.

 

Still, he had headaches, and his feelings of lethargy seemed to be “leftover effects of COVID,” she said.

 

When he went to the doctor’s office, however, Gilreath found out he had a sinus infection. It was a few days before he could get a prescription for oral antibiotics filled and start taking the medicine. By that point, the infection had combined with a staph infection and had started to move toward his brain, Demello said.

 

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article254580002.html

 

 

 

Google his name read how it's all presented to you.  This is not to downplay his death only a moron would draw that conclusion.

 

But when you test negative and are clear of symptoms then something else happens 2 weeks later.......this is a "Covid death" now?  

 

And if it isn't, it's certainly reported as if it is.  

 

 

If you follow your own advice, Tyler Gilreath died from an abscess in his cranial cavity from a sinus infection that started during Covid and never completely went away.

 

There is little doubt in my mind Covid compromised his blood-brain barrier(BBB), allowing the infection to cross over and the abscess began forming, unsurprisingly taking 2-3 weeks of development before becoming fatal.

 

Why is there little doubt in my mind?  Because Ace-2 receptors are present on endothelial cells, which are a major constituent of the BBB.  If these become compromised, the barrier becomes leaky. 

 

While science is currently studying the exact mechanisms, CNS and behavioral effects are well documented, leaving little doubt Covid can affect the brain/BBB.

 

My 15 year old son contracted and recovered from Covid around the same time frame as Tyler.  He had headaches, mild fever, nausea and sinus issues too.  All told, relatively minor issues.

 

The week after he tested Covid negative he was back at football struggling with a tight chest and light headedness during sprints.  It got progressively better each day and went away by the next week.  Based on my research experience and discussions with the trainer, I strongly suspect that under exertion, he had bradycardia due to a transient, insufficient vagal response brought on by Covid.  I'm definitely not a doctor and there's no way to study/prove it, but it's the most logical conclusion for his etiology.

 

So, you can debate whether this is a Covid-related death, but there's plenty of evidence Covid has lingering effects post-infection.  I'm going to trust a medical professional's opinion far over your myopic views.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-021-00719-9

 

"These data indicate that SARS-CoV-2 may infect brain endothelial cells, leading to increased vascular permeability, which supports the probability that SARS-CoV-2 crosses the BBB."

[Sundancer]

 

Really nice drop worldwide. The delta outbreak + vaccines, it would seem. Clearly the case in the US. The vaccinated states mostly didn't have issues. Delta cranked through and killed/immunized the unvaccinated. The non-immune herd has shrunk in proportion to the immune. Still plenty of pockets of less robust immunity and unvaccinated but it's a trend that I hope continues. 

Edited October 5, 2021 by Sundancer

[B-Man]

 

 

CDC recommends "virtual Thanksgiving" this year

by Jazz Shaw

 

After the patron saint of restricting Americans’ freedoms suggested we might need to cancel Christmas, I suppose this shouldn’t come as all that much of a surprise. The CDC is announcing today that they are recommending that Americans celebrate Thanksgiving virtually again this year. 

 

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/10/05/cdc-recommends-virtual-thanksgiving-this-year-n420269

 

 

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Lockdown consequences 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 10/5/2021 at 12:28 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

CDC recommends "virtual Thanksgiving" this year

by Jazz Shaw

 

After the patron saint of restricting Americans’ freedoms suggested we might need to cancel Christmas, I suppose this shouldn’t come as all that much of a surprise. The CDC is announcing today that they are recommending that Americans celebrate Thanksgiving virtually again this year. 

 

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/10/05/cdc-recommends-virtual-thanksgiving-this-year-n420269

 

 

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

I’m sending them the virtual GFY message.   

[SoCal Deek]

Anybody notice that as of this month Joe Biden’s been in charge of the pandemic fir as long as Trump was?  Anyone seen the dialogue change all that much? I haven’t! 

[B-Man]

 

 

Wow Germany.......really?

 

 

https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1445670541159907334

[B-Man]

 

 

Seattle police department prepares to fire up to 40% of its cops if they fail to get vaccinated in line with mayor's strict mandate by October 18 - despite already suffering staffing lows not seen since the 1980s

by Alyssa Guzman & Alastair Talbot

 

Seattle's police department is preparing to fire up to 400 officers who have not yet had their Covid shot in line with the city's strict vaccine mandate—despite already suffering staff shortages, rising crime rates and high 911 response times. The Seattle Police Department has an October 18 deadline for all sworn personnel to turn in proof of COVID-19 vaccinations or risk losing their jobs. As of Friday, 292 officers have yet to turn in proof of vaccination—or 27 percent of the department's 1,080 deployable police officers. Another 111 officers—ten percent of the deployable officers—are waiting on exemption requests to be approved. If all 403 officers are let go

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10075409/Seattle-prepares-fire-400-cops-October-18-fail-vaccinated.html

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

WATCH: Woman in Drive-Thru Perfectly Exposes Mask Hysteria

 

 

 

 

The woman continually asks the drive-thru worker why it’s safe for him to hand her a mask but not to just hand her the drink she paid for…and she’s 100% right. What’s being asked of her makes no sense whatsoever. If it’s safe to reach over and give her a piece of cheap, ineffective cloth to put on her face, then it’s obviously safe to hand her a beverage.

 

This isn’t about safety, though. After all, the interaction in the drive-thru is also taking place outside, where COVID spread is extremely limited. Instead, this is about control and conformity. The policy says you must wear a mask so they demand you wear a mask, common sense need not apply. It does not matter what the data says.

 

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/10/14/watch-woman-in-drive-thru-perfectly-exposes-mask-hysteria-n456854

 

 

[OrangeBills]

What a joke this nation has become...

 

Gen Colin Powell (RIP), a Multiple Myeloma patient, dies "with complications from COVID"

 

Um, MM actually kills the blood's T & B cells and destroys the Immune system

 

He died of complications of Covid-19, his family said in a statement, adding that he had been vaccinated and was treated at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, in Bethesda, Md., where he died. Mr. Powell had undergone treatment for multiple myeloma, which compromised his immune system, a spokeswoman said.

 

What are top causes of death from MM:  

The most common cause of death related to multiple myeloma is infection, with pneumonia being the most common fatal infection. Other common causes of death are bleeding (from low platelet counts), complications of bone fractures, kidney failure, and blood clots in the lungs.

 

 

[Doc]

18 minutes ago, OrangeBills said:

What a joke this nation has become...

 

Gen Colin Powell (RIP), a Multiple Myeloma patient, dies "with complications from COVID"

 

Um, MM actually kills the blood's T & B cells and destroys the Immune system

 

He died of complications of Covid-19, his family said in a statement, adding that he had been vaccinated and was treated at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, in Bethesda, Md., where he died. Mr. Powell had undergone treatment for multiple myeloma, which compromised his immune system, a spokeswoman said.

 

What are top causes of death from MM:  

The most common cause of death related to multiple myeloma is infection, with pneumonia being the most common fatal infection. Other common causes of death are bleeding (from low platelet counts), complications of bone fractures, kidney failure, and blood clots in the lungs.

 

Considering all the Wuhan deaths that were counted last year under Trump, this should qualify as the same.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 10/14/2021 at 5:37 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

WATCH: Woman in Drive-Thru Perfectly Exposes Mask Hysteria

 

 

 

 

The woman continually asks the drive-thru worker why it’s safe for him to hand her a mask but not to just hand her the drink she paid for…and she’s 100% right. What’s being asked of her makes no sense whatsoever. If it’s safe to reach over and give her a piece of cheap, ineffective cloth to put on her face, then it’s obviously safe to hand her a beverage.

 

This isn’t about safety, though. After all, the interaction in the drive-thru is also taking place outside, where COVID spread is extremely limited. Instead, this is about control and conformity. The policy says you must wear a mask so they demand you wear a mask, common sense need not apply. It does not matter what the data says.

 

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/10/14/watch-woman-in-drive-thru-perfectly-exposes-mask-hysteria-n456854

 

 

The messaging is being sent to the wrong party.  Corporate America is being targeted by Biden et al to be the fall guy here.  They shift the blame from a tepid and impotent government to large business under threat of massive fine, and the will be happy to collect the fine.  You have otherwise reasonable folk, @ALF for example, supporting this approach.  And when someone does catch the Vid, what better source of revenue than to blame it on the local McDs, who obviously violated govt mandates.  
 

I went to a local bagel shop last week.  Sign on the door reads “Masks Recommended”, I didn’t have one so in I went.  The employees were nice, I received no push back from other customers, but couldn’t help but notice after filling my coffee cup, she grabbed a stirrer with her ungloved fingers and put it in my cup.  I also noticed the communal sugar/cream/napkin bar had the signs of being pawed over by any number of Covid carrying folks, some in masks.  Worse yet, as I left through a side door, I saw two or three discarded masks littering the sidewalk.  
 

With respect to the zone of danger, me walking around maskless may have been the least dangerous element of the day.  
 

 

[ALF]

CNN Investigation: Tens of millions of filthy, used medical gloves imported into the US

 

There are many more warehouses just like it still in operation today in Thailand -- trying to cash in on the demand for medical-grade nitrile gloves, which exploded with the coronavirus pandemic. And they're boxing up millions of these sub-standard gloves for export to the United States, and countries around the world amid a global shortage that will take years to ease.

 

A months-long CNN investigation has found that tens of millions of counterfeit and second-hand nitrile gloves have reached the United States, according to import records and distributors who bought the gloves -- and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Criminal investigations are underway by the authorities in the US and Thailand.

 

"There's an enormous amount of bad product coming in," Stein says, "an endless stream of filthy, second-hand and substandard gloves coming into the US of which federal authorities, it seems, are only now beginning to understand the enormous scale."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/24/health/medical-gloves-us-thailand-investigation-cmd-intl/index.html

[Doc]

We have these at our center (as well as non-nitrile ones).  I refuse to use them.

[B-Man]

 

 

The Covid Children’s Crusade. 

by John Tierney

 

Against ethics and evidence, public officials push vaccine mandates for kids.

 

As I write in City Journal, we’ve reached a new  low when Sesame Street’s Big Bird is hawking the the unnecessary vaccine and NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio is bribing children with candy.

 

 

https://www.city-journal.org/the-covid-childrens-crusade

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

                                                

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

South African Medical Head Says You May Want to Slow-Roll the Panic Over New Omicron Variant

by Nick Arama

 

We reported on the announcement of a new COVID variant which they are now calling the Omicron variant. The variant was just discovered this week, but already you can hear the race to paint it in the worst light possible, suggesting that there was a lot to be concerned about because it was “heavily mutated,” that immunity and the vaccines might not protect against it. We saw the Dow take a huge plunge immediately after, likely in part because of thinking that this news could lead back to more government restrictions and problems. The Biden administration reacted in a chaotic fashion.

 

{snip}

 

In other words, it might change and there may be causes for concern, but they’re not freaking out yet about it because they don’t have the evidence yet since it just appeared.

 

Imagine actually responding in a considered fashion, based on the evidence. That’s something that seems to have been sorely lacking over the past couple of years, with how governments have responded to the virus — especially the Biden administration which hasn’t met a mandate they don’t like (even if Biden himself flouts those mandates himself).

 

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/11/27/south-african-medical-head-says-you-may-want-to-slow-roll-the-panic-over-new-omicron-variant-n482675

 

 

 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

South African Medical Head Says You May Want to Slow-Roll the Panic Over New Omicron Variant

by Nick Arama

 

We reported on the announcement of a new COVID variant which they are now calling the Omicron variant. The variant was just discovered this week, but already you can hear the race to paint it in the worst light possible, suggesting that there was a lot to be concerned about because it was “heavily mutated,” that immunity and the vaccines might not protect against it. We saw the Dow take a huge plunge immediately after, likely in part because of thinking that this news could lead back to more government restrictions and problems. The Biden administration reacted in a chaotic fashion.

 

{snip}

 

In other words, it might change and there may be causes for concern, but they’re not freaking out yet about it because they don’t have the evidence yet since it just appeared.

 

Imagine actually responding in a considered fashion, based on the evidence. That’s something that seems to have been sorely lacking over the past couple of years, with how governments have responded to the virus — especially the Biden administration which hasn’t met a mandate they don’t like (even if Biden himself flouts those mandates himself).

 

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/11/27/south-african-medical-head-says-you-may-want-to-slow-roll-the-panic-over-new-omicron-variant-n482675

 

 

 

 

OR the United States can take the same leadership exhibited by the former guy:

 

[Doc]

More deaths under Joey than Trump, and in less time.  And with vaccines and treatments.  "It is what it is"

[Sundancer]

People here and Trump claimed the border lockdowns saved millions of lives last year. Are we now against border lockdowns? It's hard to keep track. 

[Doc]

50 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

People here and Trump claimed the border lockdowns saved millions of lives last year. Are we now against border lockdowns? It's hard to keep track. 

 

Are they xenophobic or not?  It's hard to keep track.

 

No one here has a problem with the travel ban.  Unlike most Dems last year.

Edited November 29, 2021 by Doc

[Big Blitz]

In 2031, he's going to be talking about a 157th wave. 

 

 

 

During an appearance on CBS' Face the Nation on Nov. 28, Fauci warned that the latest spike in national infections could worsen in the coming weeks. "Well, we certainly have the potential to go into a fifth wave. And the fifth wave, or the magnitude of any increase, if you want to call it that it, will turn into a wave, will really be dependent upon what we do in the next few weeks to a couple of months," he told host Margaret Brennan.

 

https://bestlifeonline.com/news-fauci-dire-covid-prediction/

 

 

How many times he say this?

[Sundancer]

57 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Are they xenophobic or not?  It's hard to keep track.

 

No one here has a problem with the travel ban.  Unlike most Dems last year.

 

I would hope rational people now recognize the travel bans are useless unless you plan on going the China/New Zealand route. 

 

Trump had a first hand exposure to Covid weeks after our shutdown. Once something this contagious is here, it's here. Stopping some cases coming in on planes is putting your pinky in the crumbling Hoover Dam.