123719bwiqrb Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I remember the uproar against banning of smoking in bars and restaurants back in the early 2000's in NYS. You barely hear a peep about it now. It will become that way with masks over the next few months. Years? Decades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Trust me, I’m still quite rational. But....The next logical step will be for the government to deny health ‘service’ if you were found not to be wearing a mask. It’s already common practice out here in CA that you’re required to have a mask if you’re going to enter a store, restaurant, etc. the government cannot deny health service to anyone because hospitals and medical practices are all privatized in this country, remember? you think these ppl care if you wear a mask? lol. they only want your money. thats why folks who have recovered from covid are getting 500k+ bills after leaving the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Penfield45 said: the government cannot deny health service to anyone because hospitals and medical practices are all privatized in this country, remember? you think these ppl care if you wear a mask? lol. they only want your money. thats why folks who have recovered from covid are getting 500k+ bills after leaving the hospital. Link? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Link? Penfield made it up. People of color exempt from mask mandate if they have ‘heightened concerns about racial profiling’ while wearing them Then, I guess it shouldn't be mandatory............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: the government cannot deny health service to anyone because hospitals and medical practices are all privatized in this country, remember? you think these ppl care if you wear a mask? lol. they only want your money. thats why folks who have recovered from covid are getting 500k+ bills after leaving the hospital. Thanks. It’s brutally clear that you are a complete moron. I’d self quarantine for at least the next half century and then call me on the morning of your reinstatement so we can evaluate your case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/24/mask-mandate-florida-anger-erupts-coronavirus-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/ More genius Trump supporters. It's a bottomless well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Stupid stupid stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, Kemp said: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/24/mask-mandate-florida-anger-erupts-coronavirus-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/ More genius Trump supporters. It's a bottomless well. Commie News Network, that bastion of fair, objective reporting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Commie News Network, that bastion of fair, objective reporting Trump’s really screwed up this crisis. Have to admit that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: Trump’s really screwed up this crisis. Have to admit that. There is still no federal plan and it's June 25th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Commie News Network, that bastion of fair, objective reporting It's not bias when you show what the people actually said. Not only that, they seem like they'd be at home in some of the threads here! ? Of course the crazy folks are getting views because they are crazy! If it bleeds it leads has a lot of corollaries, one of which is crazy conspiracy people make for amusing fodder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: There is still no federal plan and it's June 25th. Welcome to the union of 57 states 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: There is still no federal plan and it's June 25th. He’s cutting federal testing as the pandemic spreads. Sad 4 minutes ago, GG said: Welcome to the union of 57 states I like this. Comparing a verbal slip to a massive blunder that has lasted months, as if these are comparable. But I’m sure the head nodders will agree it’s a good comparison. So Obama could say a one time thing that was wrong, and Trump could literally help spread a virus, hold super spreader events, and these things are equal. DR is hardly the only moonbat around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Yesterday, Wednesday, was an odd one. Once again no states reported triple digit Covid deaths but four were over 50 (CA, PA, IL and AZ). Odd because we’ve seen increases in the southwest but it’s been awhile since Pennsylvania and Illinois have made it into my daily report. What I hope that means is that the reporting is relatively accurate as opposed to just following projected trend lines, but it’s impossible to tell. Overall, 32 states reported either single digit deaths or none at all. Yes...I know...CASES are up in areas that hadn’t experienced it before but the really good news is that deaths (which is what we really hope to avoid) continue to be way down and so far there doesn’t seem to be a latent impact from the mass rioting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Yesterday, Wednesday, was an odd one. Once again no states reported triple digit Covid deaths but four were over 50 (CA, PA, IL and AZ). Odd because we’ve seen increases in the southwest but it’s been awhile since Pennsylvania and Illinois have made it into my daily report. What I hope that means is that the reporting is relatively accurate as opposed to just following projected trend lines, but it’s impossible to tell. Overall, 32 states reported either single digit deaths or none at all. Yes...I know...CASES are up in areas that hadn’t experienced it before but the really good news is that deaths (which is what we really hope to avoid) continue to be way down and so far there doesn’t seem to be a latent impact from the mass rioting. PA deaths per tested positive have been high all along...but PA has one of the lowest testing rates of any state. It's an odd duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Is there a quarantine of PA visitors to NY Tri-state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yesterday, Wednesday, was an odd one. Once again no states reported triple digit Covid deaths but four were over 50 (CA, PA, IL and AZ). Odd because we’ve seen increases in the southwest but it’s been awhile since Pennsylvania and Illinois have made it into my daily report. What I hope that means is that the reporting is relatively accurate as opposed to just following projected trend lines, but it’s impossible to tell. Overall, 32 states reported either single digit deaths or none at all. Yes...I know...CASES are up in areas that hadn’t experienced it before but the really good news is that deaths (which is what we really hope to avoid) continue to be way down and so far there doesn’t seem to be a latent impact from the mass rioting. I can’t help but think the warm weather drove people inside where the virus spreads easier. That would explain why the Southwest is getting hit hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, shoshin said: PA deaths per tested positive have been high all along...but PA has one of the lowest testing rates of any state. It's an odd duck. You’re right about PA testing rates. I hadn’t noticed that before. Overall we topped 30 MILLION tests yesterday. Those that wanted universal testing should now see just how impossible of a task that really is. We’ve yet to get to 10% of the population and it’s been three months since the major lockdown effort. Just now, Tiberius said: I can’t help but think the warm weather drove people inside where the virus spreads easier. That would explain why the Southwest is getting hit hard. That wouldn’t be at all true in California. We aren’t in our warm weather season here....and on the contrary people are getting out WAY MORE than they were just a few weeks ago. Our freeways are noticeably busier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 EU:447 million USA:328.2M 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I can’t help but think the warm weather drove people inside where the virus spreads easier. That would explain why the Southwest is getting hit hard. that has nothing to do with it. the southern states are getting hit hard because they opened up earlier than everyone else and had no strict mask orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: that has nothing to do with it. the southern states are getting hit hard because they opened up earlier than everyone else and had no strict mask orders. Is there ANYTHING you know anything at all about? California (run 100% by Democrats) is the leader in new cases, and has continued to be a mask-friendly State. The vast, vast majority of new cases in CA are all in hyper-left Los Angeles County, where EVERYONE is wearing a mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: You’re right about PA testing rates. I hadn’t noticed that before. Overall we topped 30 MILLION tests yesterday. Those that wanted universal testing should now see just how impossible of a task that really is. We’ve yet to get to 10% of the population and it’s been three months since the major lockdown effort. Even when we get to 33M tests, we will not have tested 10% of the population. Lots of multiply tested folks in there. PA is 6th in deaths, 19th in testing. WTF? Get tested you dumb dingdongs. It ain't hard. I have done it. Quote That wouldn’t be at all true in California. We aren’t in our warm weather season here....and on the contrary people are getting out WAY MORE than they were just a few weeks ago. Our freeways are noticeably busier. You open up, you get more cases. All you can do is hope people mask up and do their best to distance (whatever that means, but exercising some degree of good sense helps) and practice good hygiene. As long as we can get these friggin hospitalizations to level off, we will be OK. They are on really bad looking curves right now. Edited June 25, 2020 by shoshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaxx Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Ok, new cases are fun, but what about the death rates. They've been declining. We need to reopen fully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: EU:447 million USA:328.2M that has nothing to do with it. the southern states are getting hit hard because they opened up earlier than everyone else and had no strict mask orders. I don’t disagree that the lack of serious measures has been big, but wouldn’t be surprised if people in closed areas are spreading it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Shocking ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Shocking ? Lack of handling, more like it. What a disaster er this guy is. Death and failure follow him everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, shoshin said: You open up, you get more cases. All you can do is hope people mask up and do their best to distance (whatever that means, but exercising some degree of good sense helps) and practice good hygiene. As long as we can get these friggin hospitalizations to level off, we will be OK. They are on really bad looking curves right now. True, but there really isn’t any choice. The country cannot remain locked down indefinitely. We’ve now PROVEN that the three month lockdown, while an interesting experiment, didn’t actually stamp out the virus at all. It just bought time to get our act together. Let’s see what happens next. Again, DEATHS are what we’re trying to avoid...not cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: EU:447 million USA:328.2M that has nothing to do with it. the southern states are getting hit hard because they opened up earlier than everyone else and had no strict mask orders. Why is Russia excluded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, GG said: Why is Russia excluded? Nobody trusts their data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Just now, 123719bwiqrb said: Nobody trusts their data. That's not why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, bilzfancy said: Commie News Network, that bastion of fair, objective reporting You're absolutely right!!! That woman talking never even happened!! It was all a doctored video produced by one of Hillary's pedophilia victims!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, GG said: Welcome to the union of 57 states Ah yes - ignore the pandemic because a previous president misspoke. 5Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: DR is hardly the only moonbat around here But he fancies himself their genius leader. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: Ah yes - ignore the pandemic because a previous president misspoke. 5Genius As usual you missed the point. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 45 minutes ago, GG said: Why is Russia excluded? Russia isn't apart of the EU ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Is there ANYTHING you know anything at all about? California (run 100% by Democrats) is the leader in new cases, and has continued to be a mask-friendly State. The vast, vast majority of new cases in CA are all in hyper-left Los Angeles County, where EVERYONE is wearing a mask. Because masks are worthless and this won't go away until everyone is immune. We either need antibodies (by contracting Covid) or a vaccine. Not sure why this is so hard for everyone to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Just now, Gary M said: Because masks are worthless and this won't go away until everyone is immune. We either need antibodies (by contracting Covid) or a vaccine. Not sure why this is so hard for everyone to understand. Scientists/doctors/researchers: Mask use in communities are proven to slow the spread right wingers: "Masks are worthless" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I would love to hear from a life insurance actuary on this. The are wizards at measuring risk and the risk of death. That's what we're all concerned about right? Who gives a ***** about getting sick. I think we'd all like to know what the current actuarial risk of dying from the virus and how they would price that into life insurance if at all at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: EU:447 million USA:328.2M Do they also have charts for tests administered, hospitalizations, and fatalities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gary M said: Because masks are worthless and this won't go away until everyone is immune. We either need antibodies (by contracting Covid) or a vaccine. Not sure why this is so hard for everyone to understand. Which could be never, as the vaccine may never work out and the antibody angle has already been deemed invalid.. Edited June 25, 2020 by 123719bwiqrb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Just now, Penfield45 said: right wingers: "Masks are worthless" Only because the general public doesn't understand how to use them properly. I see people set them down with the inside on the surface of a table or bar. I watch people walk around with them under their noses. I watch people handle them constantly without disinfecting their hands. Shall I go on? 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Do they also have charts for tests administered, hospitalizations, and fatalities? Now why would you need that info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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