Luka Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, BillStime said: A competent and honest administration who would confront this from the start and take it seriously will go a long way. Well we aren't going to get that in this round that's for sure lol 20 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I feel we have to have a serious conversation about health and aging in this country. What is the common theme with many that have died? Comorbidity is a huge problem. Eat a ***** salad and get some exercise for God’s sake. This is also true. Problem is that the advertising is built to feed you garbage. I know NYC is trying to ban large sodas and ***** like that, but maybe we should take the approach we did with tobacco and not let Kellog's and General Mills advertise garbage to our children? We know sugar is just as bad as smoking and drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Luka said: Well we aren't going to get that in this round that's for sure lol This is also true. Problem is that the advertising is built to feed you garbage. I know NYC is trying to ban large sodas and ***** like that, but maybe we should take the approach we did with tobacco and not let Kellog's and General Mills advertise garbage to our children? We know sugar is just as bad as smoking and drinking. Marketing is strong. People are weak. Don’t be weak. Not directed at you of course. How I quit booze. Realizing it was all marketed horribly. It’s happy juice!! No, no it’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Marketing is strong. People are weak. Don’t be weak. Not directed at you of course. How I quit booze. Realizing it was all marketed horribly. It’s happy juice!! No, no it’s not. ...BUT...did you save 15% on your car insurance??................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Marketing is strong. People are weak. Don’t be weak. Not directed at you of course. How I quit booze. Realizing it was all marketed horribly. It’s happy juice!! No, no it’s not. Well it could be weakness but it could also just be a lack of education. Watch my 600 LB life, you'd think you would have to be a damn millionaire to be 600 LBS but really these people are from poor communities with poor education and they eat what's advertised to them. Food is also a big problem because a lot of the terrible things people eat are family recipes and things they ate as kids and it's handed down from generation to generation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, Luka said: Well it could be weakness but it could also just be a lack of education. Watch my 600 LB life, you'd think you would have to be a damn millionaire to be 600 LBS but really these people are from poor communities with poor education and they eat what's advertised to them. Food is also a big problem because a lot of the terrible things people eat are family recipes and things they ate as kids and it's handed down from generation to generation. Lack of education is part of it. Thinking is a part of it. Laziness is a HUGE part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 SO HOW MUCH GOOD IS A VACCINE? 35 Years of Research Into Coronavirus Infections Show Long-Term Immunity Is Unlikely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 10 hours ago, BillStime said: Doing well? I don’t think we can say that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Lack of education is part of it. Thinking is a part of it. Laziness is a HUGE part of it. People...come on! These are FIRST WORLD problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Currently in order to over compensate for his nursing home disaster and the election obviously, Cuomo is calling WNY a hot spot of Covid. Because its positive test rate is around 1.5%. 1.5% Dr. Birx and Redfield told us in late July that to safely reopen schools IN PERSON a region needs to be less than 5% positive test rate. Let that sink in. Schools can be open in buildings for 8 hours a day. In August this was their number to get there. FIVE PERCENT Cuomo is calling WNY a "hot spot" now. For 1.5% You are being lied to. In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union," host Dana Bash asked Birx about a recommendation from the Centers for Disease Control Director Robert Redfield, which said schools in areas with a 5% positivity rate or higher need to use distance learning. https://www.businessinsider.com/reopening-schools-covid-19-cases-caution-birx-2020-8 Biggest sham in the history of the planet 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Currently in order to over compensate for his nursing home disaster and the election obviously, Cuomo is calling WNY a hot spot of Covid. Because its positive test rate is around 1.5%. 1.5% Dr. Birx and Redfield told us in late July that to safely reopen schools IN PERSON a region needs to be less than 5% positive test rate. Let that sink in. Schools can be open in buildings for 8 hours a day. In August this was their number to get there. FIVE PERCENT Cuomo is calling WNY a "hot spot" now. For 1.5% You are being lied to. In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union," host Dana Bash asked Birx about a recommendation from the Centers for Disease Control Director Robert Redfield, which said schools in areas with a 5% positivity rate or higher need to use distance learning. https://www.businessinsider.com/reopening-schools-covid-19-cases-caution-birx-2020-8 Biggest sham in the history of the planet What does what you're saying about WNY mean? I just googled the news and only came up with this about Cuomo: ALBANY, N.Y. — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo on Monday refused to allow New York City to close nonessential businesses in nine hot spots in Brooklyn and Queens where the coronavirus has spiked, pre-empting a plan announced the day before by Mayor Bill de Blasio. The governor’s stance created more confusion over how the authorities intend to tackle early signs of a second wave of the virus in its one-time epicenter. Mr. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat, also accelerated the plan to close schools in the affected areas, moving the closure date up a day to Tuesday. The governor’s announcement seemed to be yet another manifestation of his long feud with Mr. de Blasio. Mr. Cuomo has frequently second-guessed or overruled the mayor, also a Democrat, during their tenures. Edited October 5, 2020 by shoshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, shoshin said: What does what you're saying about WNY mean? I just googled the news and only came up with this about Cuomo: ALBANY, N.Y. — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo on Monday refused to allow New York City to close nonessential businesses in nine hot spots in Brooklyn and Queens where the coronavirus has spiked, pre-empting a plan announced the day before by Mayor Bill de Blasio. The governor’s stance created more confusion over how the authorities intend to tackle early signs of a second wave of the virus in its one-time epicenter. Mr. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat, also accelerated the plan to close schools in the affected areas, moving the closure date up a day to Tuesday. The governor’s announcement seemed to be yet another manifestation of his long feud with Mr. de Blasio. Mr. Cuomo has frequently second-guessed or overruled the mayor, also a Democrat, during their tenures. I'd post valuable information like this, meant to inform the duped how duped they've been, in the TSW but you can only post "covid is going to kill us all" and support the narrative; and it is also somehow considered political. You can post we should not have fans because its scary.........but you can't post we should have fans and here is some actual logic science and reasoning to explain why. That's somehow political. I think more people started to figure this out, Team Lockdown got mad, so they changed the rules to "do not discuss the virus." If I posted this over there it would be taken down and I'd get a warning. Edited October 5, 2020 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 And here is New Jersey moving the goal posts for the 75,000 time and too many (enough that these people feel safe enough in their jobs to say it) are not royally **%*& the F off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Some workers are more essential than others............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Cuomo also reported this today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Can just anyone get the experimental antibody cocktail and get tested daily so they get to the hospital in a day? Trump making out like he's some kind of "every-man" for his experience getting over Covid (hopefully true) after exposing tens to hundreds more to it has to be one of his top narcissistic moments, and that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, shoshin said: Can just anyone get the experimental antibody cocktail and get tested daily so they get to the hospital in a day? Trump making out like he's some kind of "every-man" for his experience getting over Covid (hopefully true) after exposing tens to hundreds more to it has to be one of his top narcissistic moments, and that's saying something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: And here is New Jersey moving the goal posts for the 75,000 time and too many (enough that these people feel safe enough in their jobs to say it) are not royally **%*& the F off He could have saved characters and sounded somewhat sane in the tweet by replacing the last two sentences with: "Our job will never be done" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Let's keep arguing about motorcade rides, and miscellaneous crap. SOMEONE JUSTIFY THIS ! Does the State think that we aren't hugging each other at home ?? The American public is being abused .......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Let's keep arguing about motorcade rides, and miscellaneous crap. SOMEONE JUSTIFY THIS ! Does the State think that we aren't hugging each other at home ?? The American public is being abused .......... I have been to a funeral during the pandemic in a liberal state. It was small in size, masked, but otherwise normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 SO BASICALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE CHARLIE MARTIN WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: ....LOL...Andy of Mayberry has spoken....does this clown EVER get over himself?...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, shoshin said: I have been to a funeral during the pandemic in a liberal state. It was small in size, masked, but otherwise normal. That's you justifying this? really? 50 minutes ago, B-Man said: Let's keep arguing about motorcade rides, and miscellaneous crap. SOMEONE JUSTIFY THIS ! Does the State think that we aren't hugging each other at home ?? The American public is being abused .......... Cant be justified 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Didn't his campaign figure out a national mask mandate is no bueno? They had stopped calling for it for a while, and today he's back at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 This is kind of an important article... Highly recommended... https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/national-health-care-fraud-and-opioid-takedown-results-charges-against-345-defendants The DOJ has something to say about health care fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Didn't his campaign figure out a national mask mandate is no bueno? They had stopped calling for it for a while, and today he's back at it. Yeah, but that's different. Elitism is a disease. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: The fact the people in charge of every institution, every company, that has been impacted or devastated by this insanity hasn't stood up collectively and said "nope, to heck with you" is the most upsetting thing about all this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shoshin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Did his case get caught right away, did he get an experimental drug shown to have great results right away, another experimental drug as well, and the best medical care anyone could have? Doesn’t sound like the experience of most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 57 minutes ago, shoshin said: Did his case get caught right away, did he get an experimental drug shown to have great results right away, another experimental drug as well, and the best medical care anyone could have? Doesn’t sound like the experience of most people. Maybe not but its the outcome for 99.8% of the infected. Skewed to those over 80. Let's keep hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, shoshin said: Did his case get caught right away, did he get an experimental drug shown to have great results right away, another experimental drug as well, and the best medical care anyone could have? Doesn’t sound like the experience of most people. that's only because the MSM has convinced people that the very affordable and available zinc +HCQ treatment should not be used it's better to hide in your closet until you die if you do actually get sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, shoshin said: Did his case get caught right away, did he get an experimental drug shown to have great results right away, another experimental drug as well, and the best medical care anyone could have? Doesn’t sound like the experience of most people. They did seem to catch Trump early. Other than the 1 drug (which might be a big difference maker), the rest is now ordinary treatment for Covid available to anyone. From local nurse friend who is in a leadership nursing position in local hospital, they have learned a lot about treating this over the past 6 months and are getting much better outcomes now compared with earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, spartacus said: that's only because the MSM has convinced people that the very affordable and available zinc +HCQ treatment should not be used it's better to hide in your closet until you die if you do actually get sick Trump didn’t take HCQ, he got one very limited and ultra expensive experimental treatment and another experimental treatment plus immediate hospitalization and the best care we can provide. I don’t begrudge POTUS that but it’s a stretch for him to advise the average obese 74 year to have no worries based on his experience. No one is going to have Trump’s treatment experience. 3 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: They did seem to catch Trump early. Other than the 1 drug (which might be a big difference maker), the rest is now ordinary treatment for Covid available to anyone. From local nurse friend who is in a leadership nursing position in local hospital, they have learned a lot about treating this over the past 6 months and are getting much better outcomes now compared with earlier. Agree with this about better treatments and that’s why we have much better outcomes but Remdesivir is not that widely available to call it normal. Also Trump hit medical care earlier than you and me would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, shoshin said: Trump didn’t take HCQ, he got one very limited and ultra expensive experimental treatment and another experimental treatment plus immediate hospitalization and the best care we can provide. I don’t begrudge POTUS that but it’s a stretch for him to advise the average obese 74 year to have no worries based on his experience. No one is going to have Trump’s treatment experience. Agree with this about better treatments and that’s why we have much better outcomes but Remdesivir is not that widely available to call it normal. Also Trump hit medical care earlier than you and me would have. I guess that's all about to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: That is one of the main reasons for the media meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, shoshin said: Trump didn’t take HCQ, he got one very limited and ultra expensive experimental treatment and another experimental treatment plus immediate hospitalization and the best care we can provide. I don’t begrudge POTUS that but it’s a stretch for him to advise the average obese 74 year to have no worries based on his experience. No one is going to have Trump’s treatment experience. Agree with this about better treatments and that’s why we have much better outcomes but Remdesivir is not that widely available to call it normal. Also Trump hit medical care earlier than you and me would have. why did he get treated earlier is covid a surprise for most people who get sick if people are sick, go get treatment again- don't hide in your closet and hope you don't die 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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