Bookie Man Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 "There is no intentional grounding. Number 34 was in the area.. (cough) code (cough)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 hours ago, peterpan said: I'm not saying this caused them to win, just using this as an example. The cheaters drive where they kicked a FG...... On one of their early plays, Jerry hughes is BLATENTLY held AND the OL has his hands to Hughes face. This was out in the open and near Brady, and should have been easy to spot. So instead of a panalty and 1st and 20, it's instead 2nd and 2. The very next play, Bills generate pressure, Brady panics and throws it away. AN OBVIOUS INTENTIONAL GROUNDING call is not made. The ref says a RB was in the area but, he was 15+ yards away from where the ball landed. That's a penalty, cut and dry. So now it's 3rd and 2, when it should have been 2nd and about 28. Pats easily convert 3rd and 2. A few series later t about the 35 yard line, it's 3rd and a long 2. Bills stop their run after a 1/2 yard gain. Refs give them a full yard. Next play, Bills again stop them after a 1/2 yard, refs give them a full yard AND a first down!!! WHAT?!? HE WAS CLEARLY SHORT ON 4TH DOWN!!!! AND THE SPOT ON 3RD WAS CRAP!!!! Ten yards later the Pats kick a FG. The refs essentially have the cheaters a pass and helped them down the field FOR AN ENTIRE DRIVE. This happens to them ALL THE TIME. WTF!!!!!!!! It's like 'Zo Alexander said on the "Lo Down" this week, "expect that stuff and don't get mentally hijacked by it" 2 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Would have loved an additional 15 yards on that last drive for the face mask That was brutal. Allen must have a damn neck like a bull moose 3 hours ago, Xwnyer said: I was amazed they called two Offense PI s on them Indeed, I thought actually this game was overall more fairly called than some have been I'm not saying it was fair overall, mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Refs totally blew the intentional grounding, nowhere near anybody and the facemask on JA but we did get those two OPI penalties Not the reason we lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, UConn James said: At this point, I’m pretty much in favor of losing Hughes because the refs just absolutely hate him. They flag him easier than anyone in the league for personal fouls and call nothing when he’s mauled. And, as a second point, his run D is terrible. AgreeD. Since the time he tried to confront the ref in tunnel, he has gotten ZERO calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Kiva said: There is no doubt this league is rigged. We must grease the right pockets to be relevant. The obvious cheating just proves the Patriots pay the most and it is effective. It sucks when your lifelong passion is nothing more than a made up script with a determined outcome. I chose the blue pill. So very true. Brady became relevant after the butchered "tuck" play. From then on the corruption train took off. Nearly 20 years of biased calls Steering Patriot games in the Kraft direction. Someday the true level of Patriot favoritism will come to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 hours ago, ticketssince61 said: Refs totally blew the intentional grounding, nowhere near anybody and the facemask on JA but we did get those two OPI penalties Not the reason we lost We didn't "get" anything. Edleman straight up speared our defender, and their tightend ranndown field and started pass blocking Edmands 7 yards down field. Edleman should have gotten an unsportsmanlike for spearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Tainted franchise. In multiple ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Chris66 said: Really! Your going there. Did you post or interact on here last week before the game leading up to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Azucho98 said: Missed facemask on Josh's 4th down conversion too. Don't know WTF they are looking at...payoff from Kraft most likely. Players need to start using zebras for picks and treating them as if they are members of opposition. I was in Buffalo Wild Wings and every person watching game was talking about how much they favor New England except one - the one New England fan and I think I was only Bills fan there for a saw a lot of other teams gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Balls on the 5 if they call the obvious facemask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Meatloaf63 said: Yet they still were in it till the last drive that could have been different if the face mask was called. So stop the I’m a better educated fan snobbery, it has an effect, it gave them points, it made a difference... Some "fans" will always give New England excuses despite what colors they wear. There is color blind and there must be another type of blindness to not be able to see logo on items they are wearing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Hey anyone who thinks the road team will get calls against Brady and Belli at Gillet has not been watching games for the last 2 decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 hours ago, iccrewman112 said: AgreeD. Since the time he tried to confront the ref in tunnel, he has gotten ZERO calls. Anyone have a website that might show stats like this. There’s definitely a chance they have called on holding call on his opponent since. I see him being held every game. Never a call. If I work for the Bills, I’d put together a compilation of non calls vs Jerry and present it “the committee”.....so they can laugh behind our backs. Seems intentional to me 10 hours ago, ticketssince61 said: Refs totally blew the intentional grounding, nowhere near anybody and the facemask on JA but we did get those two OPI penalties Not the reason we lost It’s never “THE reason we lost”. It’s one of a few reasons we lost. Take one reason away and we could’ve won 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 the amount of times I called that ref "hair-lip" throughout the night has to be over 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Chris66 said: Really! Your going there. His going there what? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Chris66 said: Really! Your going there. Can’t blame him. Not just because it happened to us but it happens to many teams that face the Pats. Couple that with all their cheating scandals and it just is not good for the league. Their offense knew everything our defense was doing yesterday and vise versa. 1 hour ago, Hampton Josh fan said: Hey anyone who thinks the road team will get calls against Brady and Belli at Gillet has not been watching games for the last 2 decades. Can we agree that it shouldn’t be the case? It is wrong on so many levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Are the Ref's biased toward NE when they play the Bills (and almost everyone else)? It sure looks that way much of the time. My beef is they are just so inconsistent from crew to crew, week to week, and game to game. Early on they called defensive PI on Tre and I thought there was contact but nothing too blatant. And I said okay, if that's the standard definition of defensive PI in this game then they better be consistent and call it both ways. They did not. Several times Bills receivers were held up, tugged, or contacted while the ball was in the air that was far more contact then the earlier call but nothing was called. Edited December 22, 2019 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 they also called 2 big OPI against them calling back big plays....but their O-Line held all game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 14 hours ago, peterpan said: I'm not saying this caused them to win, just using this as an example. The cheaters drive where they kicked a FG...... On one of their early plays, Jerry hughes is BLATENTLY held AND the OL has his hands to Hughes face. This was out in the open and near Brady, and should have been easy to spot. So instead of a panalty and 1st and 20, it's instead 2nd and 2. The very next play, Bills generate pressure, Brady panics and throws it away. AN OBVIOUS INTENTIONAL GROUNDING call is not made. The ref says a RB was in the area but, he was 15+ yards away from where the ball landed. That's a penalty, cut and dry. So now it's 3rd and 2, when it should have been 2nd and about 28. Pats easily convert 3rd and 2. A few series later t about the 35 yard line, it's 3rd and a long 2. Bills stop their run after a 1/2 yard gain. Refs give them a full yard. Next play, Bills again stop them after a 1/2 yard, refs give them a full yard AND a first down!!! WHAT?!? HE WAS CLEARLY SHORT ON 4TH DOWN!!!! AND THE SPOT ON 3RD WAS CRAP!!!! Ten yards later the Pats kick a FG. The refs essentially have the cheaters a pass and helped them down the field FOR AN ENTIRE DRIVE. This happens to them ALL THE TIME. WTF!!!!!!!! That sequence arguably cost the Bills the game. If the refs had done the right thing and spotted the ball properly, resulting in the Bills taking it over, then everything else being equal, the Pats would have gone for one on their final TD to go up by 3, 20-17. The Bills could have then tied the game on their final possession. Incidentally, on the first play of that possession — from the half yard line — Michel only got to the one yard line and they spotted it at the 2 yard line. 4 minutes ago, nucci said: they also called 2 big OPI against them calling back big plays....but their O-Line held all game Those OPI calls were obvious ones to call and were correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Those OPI calls were obvious ones to call and were correct. Yes they were but obvious calls don't always get flagged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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