simpleman Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 hours ago, rayray808 said: WEEK 15: A 13/25 - 139 yards - 1 TD - 1 INT - 28 yards rushing 1 TD Gadring beyond the stats tonight... Definitely wearing those Homer glasses. You better not drive wearing those. It would be dangerous. Definitely an average grade. Not a fail, but just enough to win. C or C-. Defense again an A. Let us not even grade the rest of the Offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He absolutely prevented a likely pick on that play. It was literally right to the db, who had great position. I love allen, but man are there a lot of rose colored glasses in this thread when it comes to his play last night. We'll have to agree to disagree. IMO, that was a pretty routine play by NFL standards. Rather then looking at Allen's performance through rose colored glasses I like to think of it as watching the game with the understanding that we were on the road against an elite defense in a playoff level game. And in this game our 2nd year, raw QB prospect made a lot more clutch plays then he made mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, GG said: It's uncanny how bad he can look for 3 quarters and then just turn it on at the end. Clutch. And as an aside, how about that Duck Dodgers and his complete inability to do anything all game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, simpleman said: Definitely wearing those Homer glasses. You better not drive wearing those. It would be dangerous. Definitely an average grade. Not a fail, but just enough to win. C or C-. Defense again an A. Let us not even grade the rest of the Offense. No excuse for an AFC East QB to go on the road against an AFC North opponent with a lesser record, barely complete over 50% of his passes, fall behind 10-7, and be forgiven simply because he accounts for 2 TDs and the best corner in the game bails him out with 2 huge INTs... ...Tom Brady should be embarrassed. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: We'll have to agree to disagree. IMO, that was a pretty routine play by NFL standards. Rather then looking at Allen's performance through rose colored glasses I like to think of it as watching the game with the understanding that we were on the road against an elite defense in a playoff level game. And in this game our 2nd year, raw QB prospect made a lot more clutch plays then he made mistakes. As I’ve said elsewhere, I thought he played OK. Certainly not great, but he did his job late and got it done. The offense was generally bad last night - 260 yards. Edited December 16, 2019 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 hours ago, KD in CA said: That's crazy. The defense gets an A. Allen gets a C+. The pick was all on him and wasn't his only bad throw of the night. Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it and once preventing a pick. No. It wasn’t all on him. It was a high throw that his receiver had two hands on. That’s 60-40. brown didn’t save him on that deep throw, it did exactly what it was supposed to. It drew the flag and it gave Brown a chance to make the play. The second one brown did help him. B for me. I said all week that I thought the Steelers Defense was overrated. I think, by and large, I was right- but they aren’t overrated in their ability to get turnovers. Josh played smart, didn’t make any bad decisions, and we won the game because of that (and because of our amazing defense catching ducks). When we needed it most, josh went and got 7. If we’d have settled for a fg, it’d have gone to overtime, and who knows then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Josh had his players drop 4 balls. Beasley 2, Brown and DiMarco. He should've went 17/25 1 td, 1 rush, 0 ints. It was a very good game for him but I do notice a complete 180 turnaround from last regarding his scrambling instincts. He's alot more hesitant. I know he's trying to stay in the pocket longer to develop but a large portion of his running mojo is gone. I agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Prime time game, on the road, in a place that is tough to play. Playing a hot Pittsburgh team with one of the best defenses in the league. Playing, for the most of the game, in a run heavy game plan that is not suited to his strengths. Playing with the pressure of trying to secure a WC playoff birth, with divisional hopes still in play. Takes his team, on his back, for the go ahead TD drive. Solid B. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: C+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 hours ago, KD in CA said: That's crazy. The defense gets an A. Allen gets a C+. The pick was all on him and wasn't his only bad throw of the night. Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it and once preventing a pick It 'd give a B, or B-. He was neutered too by the coaches which was odd, as they've rarely done that before. But as for the two long throws to Brown...it's SUPPOSED to happen a few times per game, throwing 50/50 balls and having your (star) receiver battle it out. As you saw, Brown caught one, and yes, played defense to prevent the INT... which is what a NFL level WR is supposed to do! I have no issue at all with attempting these two throws! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Some great throws. Some completions the receivers have to work for. Some inaccurate throws. No way in hell its an A. I thought dallas was an A. Having said that, some key throws on 3rd and 4th down. C+ 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Don't forget about Singletary's fumble as well to snuff out a good drive lead by JA. If someone thinks that's not all on Josh, well they don't know nothing about nothing. Yeah I wanted to see what happened on that drive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 7 hours ago, TwistofFate said: If you think 52% completion percentage for sub 150 yards passing and an INT is higher than a C+ grade, you know less than ***** about this game. Ill take a win to clinch a playoff spot but if you think the offense won this game you are a real fanatic. Allen's performance was lack luster and average at best. He made a few plays which puts him in the C range, which is AVERAGE. He gets the + because he capitalized when it was absolutely necessary. You're exclusively looking at stats, which is ridiculous. You know who has great stats? Andy Dalton. Antonio Brown. Where are they today? Exactly. Because stats alone are for losers. Winners go home and screw the prom queen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: It 'd give a B, or B-. He was neutered too by the coaches which was odd, as they've rarely done that before. But as for the two long throws to Brown...it's SUPPOSED to happen a few times per game, throwing 50/50 balls and having your (star) receiver battle it out. As you saw, Brown caught one, and yes, played defense to prevent the INT... which is what a NFL level WR is supposed to do! I have no issue at all with attempting these two throws! I agree with your assessment. Allen should be throwing more 50/50 balls. The play calling was overly conservative. After getting the last touchdown, the Bills just did run plays up the middle, which resulted in a few three and outs and gave the Steelers offense way more opportunities than they should of had. Glad the defense didn't get worn down and made the plays that they did. I still don't get the series where the Bills had it first and goal and gave it to Gore three times? Gore does not have the speed to bounce it to the sidelines anymore. That was baffling! Also, Duke Williams was inactive again, but Foster didn't take an offensive snap. If Foster wasn't going to play, why didn't the coaches make him inactive, have Duke in his place and give Duke a chance with having some 50/50 balls thrown his way? Did something happen behind the scenes as to why Williams hasn't played since being injured? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: No excuse for an AFC East QB to go on the road against an AFC North opponent with a lesser record, barely complete over 50% of his passes, fall behind 10-7, and be forgiven simply because he accounts for 2 TDs and the best corner in the game bails him out with 2 huge INTs... ...Tom Brady should be embarrassed. On Daboll, not Allen. A terribly called game again. Allen was fine, however a few bad throws. But again we no longer want to see 300 yards, but 200 now is becoming a tough bar to reach..... Funny only QB who threw for less yesterday was Brady Edited December 16, 2019 by Billsfan1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 9 hours ago, pop gun said: B- This. He wasn't spectacular by any means, but he was clutch when he needed to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: On Daboll, not Allen. A terribly called game again. Allen was fine, however a few bad throws. But again we no longer want to see 300 yards, but 200 now is becoming a tough bar to reach..... Funny only QB who threw for less yesterday was Brady I purposely wrote my post so that it applied to both Allen and Brady. Had I gone even more ambiguous, it could've applied to Rodgers, Goff, and Garoppolo too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Josh Allen was horrible again - he was not the reason for the win - Devlin Hodges was let's just be serious. It's both scary and painful to watch him throw sometimes. He could have easily had two more fumbles - got lucky I guess. He had a NUMBER of bad throws, and simply can't place the ball where needed many times even on the more simple of attempts. Buffalo won last night on the strength of the Defense and some good hard running, and 4 or 5 turnovers from the Steelers. GO BILLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Socal-805 said: Josh Allen was horrible again - he was not the reason for the win - Devlin Hodges was let's just be serious. It's both scary and painful to watch him throw sometimes. He could have easily had two more fumbles - got lucky I guess. He had a NUMBER of bad throws, and simply can't place the ball where needed many times even on the more simple of attempts. Buffalo won last night on the strength of the Defense and some good hard running, and 4 or 5 turnovers from the Steelers. GO BILLS. Not as painful as reading your analyses... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) @Socal-805 stop embarrassing yourself. It's hard to watch. 32 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: You're exclusively looking at stats, which is ridiculous. You know who has great stats? Andy Dalton. Antonio Brown. Where are they today? Exactly. Because stats alone are for losers. Winners go home and screw the prom queen. I have no idea why I read this and thought it said porn queen. Edited December 16, 2019 by eball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Socal-805 said: Josh Allen was horrible again - he was not the reason for the win - Devlin Hodges was let's just be serious. It's both scary and painful to watch him throw sometimes. He could have easily had two more fumbles - got lucky I guess. He had a NUMBER of bad throws, and simply can't place the ball where needed many times even on the more simple of attempts. Buffalo won last night on the strength of the Defense and some good hard running, and 4 or 5 turnovers from the Steelers. GO BILLS. Wow I know we can talk "Glass Half Empty", but you are 99% Empty...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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