Bills at Browns Post Game Post Mortem

[london_bills]

12 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

If the Bills miss the playoff's, and I am Pegula, I tell Beane to fire McDermott and start a HC search, and Beane has full say on who to hire, no butting in from the owners. I personally would do that no matter what, because even if the Bills sneak into the playoff's with this pitifull schedule, McDermott is showing he can't coach in this modern era of football. It's simply a waste of everyone's time to keep him on as HC.

All depends on the record surely. 10-6, 9-7 he's not getting the can. 

[Seven-N-Nine]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

That’s nice.  It’s not happening and you know it.

And how many more seasons of this do you really want watch exactly? Me personally, I've seen enough of McDermott, he's not HC material and many of you know that, why prolong the inevitable?

[wvbillsfan]

I’m gonna leave this here

 

if the Bills refuse to run the ball then Beasley should be the automatic read in third down. Look all over the field if you want but throw the ball to Beasley if they are going man on third down. 

[london_bills]

9 minutes ago, row_33 said:

real fans know pretenders and frauds

Absolutely. There are plenty of threads about Allen, Daboll and McDermott! 

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Could have saved some draft picks and taken Rudolph

Could have taken Lamar Jackson. Huh Gugny?

[oldmanfan]

3 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

And how many more seasons of this do you really want watch exactly? Me personally, I've seen enough of McDermott, he's not HC material and many of you know that, why prolong the inevitable?

3 weeks ago people were calling him a coach if the year candidate.  The one thing he should do is tell Daboll to get the ball in Singletary’s hands.

 

You can yell all you want; this team is 6-3.  Losing a close game isn’t cause to set the barn on fire.

Edited November 11, 2019 by oldmanfan

[Seven-N-Nine]

1 minute ago, Gray Beard said:

When the Bills lose by 3 points, a lot of people complain about accuracy, play calling, field goal kickers, etc.

 

When the Bills win by 3 points, if anybody complains about those things, they’re told to shut up. 

That's the willfully ignorant sect of the fan base at work. There have been signs all season long that this team is not very good.

[london_bills]

4 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

And how many more seasons of this do you really want watch exactly? Me personally, I've seen enough of McDermott, he's not HC material and many of you know that, why prolong the inevitable?

I know what your saying. I feel that way about Allen. Last drive was a horror show. But as a HC mcdermott is 6-3.  

Edited November 11, 2019 by london_bills

[Seven-N-Nine]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

3 weeks ago people were calling him a coach if the year candidate.  The one thing he should do is tell Daboll to get the ball in Singletary’s hands.

 

You can yell all you want; this team is 6-3.  Losing a close game isn’t cause to set the barn on fire.

And the ppl calling him COY had no friggin clue... Look at his career so far, he can't beat good teams.

Edited November 11, 2019 by Seven-N-Nine

[Dopey]

5 minutes ago, row_33 said:

real fans know pretenders and frauds

The point I made was we deserve the record we have and him saying we don't is a load of crap. This wasn't about how good we are or not. We did win those games. Do we deserve to be mentioned among the elite? Of course not. Again that's not what our back and forth was about. We do dederve to be 6-3. So, in the context of the conversation between bullbuchanan and me, what's your point?

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

And the ppl calling him COY had no friggin clue... Look at his career so far, he can't beat good teams.

As I said keep yelling all you want if it makes you feel better.  He’s not going anywhere.

[london_bills]

This was a disgusting loss. 

[ALF]

Missing a 34 yard FG , not good 

[Seven-N-Nine]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

As I said keep yelling all you want if it makes you feel better.  He’s not going anywhere.

I'm not yelling...

[oldmanfan]

3 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

I want to know where you buy them rose colored glasses at. 

 

Allen was pathetic today. 

You act is old and tired.  He was not pathetic and you know it.

[Billsatlastin2018]

1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

 

Because he’s not there mentally, he misses a wide open Beasley on that play. He was always going to Brown pre snap but if he would have identified the defense and blitz he would have had Beasley wide open with room to roam.

Nothing more revealing about Allen’s progress than that clip! ??

[oldmanfan]

Just now, Seven-N-Nine said:

I'm not yelling...

Ok.  You can moan, complain, cry whatever.  Pick your verb.  Won’t change that McD ain’t going anywhere.

[John from Riverside]

5 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

I want to know where you buy them rose colored glasses at. 

 

Allen was pathetic today. 

I want to know where you find the energy to make these ***** posts every week

[thenorthremembers]

Just now, TwistofFate said:

Its all hard to watch, but according to most on this board, Allen had a good game.   He was absolutely terrible today.   He's the reason we lost. 

 

 

He wasnt great, but if both kickers make all their field goals the Bills still win 22-20.   Hauschka, Allen, Poor play calling, and bad tackling all played a part.  They lost as a team.

[John from Riverside]

Just now, TwistofFate said:

Keep telling yourself that.  

 

If this team drops another game or two in a row, and Allen plays like he did today, he'll be benched by week 13.

Care to make a bet on that?

[Sundancer]

Browns have lost to

 

Niners

Rams

Titans

Seahawks

Pats

 

They destroyed the Ravens.

 

They are a long ways from a bad team. 

 

That not apologizing for 266 yards passing, 2 missed FGs, throwing 3 yard passes in the last two minutes, 8 rushing attempts for Singletary, giving up 150 on the ground almost every game seemingly...but they lost to a team that is far from as bad as their record indicates.

Edited November 11, 2019 by Sundancer

[london_bills]

3 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Nothing more revealing about Allen’s progress than that clip! ??

Yeah. Feels like he's slow with his progressions 

Edited November 11, 2019 by london_bills

[Urdad]

32 minutes ago, london_bills said:

What about Allen? 

 

If you have to ask, you know the answer

[Lurker]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

McD ain’t going anywhere.

 

Maybe if you used the 'ignore user' feature, some trolls might however...

[billsherd]

To make it worse Steelers won too against rams. 

[Avisan]

For everyone complaining about the lack of rushing attempts:

 

The Browns overloaded the box for most of the game to force us to throw.  It was bad.  They were so confident we couldn't beat them through the air that they often had one more player than they "should" in the box based on our formation, and we still couldn't consistently throw it.  The third down play on the final drive is a perfect example of how little they respected Allen.  Just look at that uncovered bunch!  40+ QBs in the league would identify the blitz and complete the throw.  Our starter cannot.

 

Playcalling could be better but Allen is abysmal.

[ticketssince61]

3 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Nothing more revealing about Allen’s progress than that clip! ??

 

Aside from the fact that one of the Browns rushers is running untouched towards him on the other side?

 

If he throws to Beasley it is likely batted down - he had a split second to unload the ball to avoid the sack

[Seven-N-Nine]

6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Ok.  You can moan, complain, cry whatever.  Pick your verb.  Won’t change that McD ain’t going anywhere.

I'm doing none of those. And I know McDermott isn't going anywhere, the Bills don't have foreward thinking ownership. In the end, McDermott will be just as trash as Rex was, just a different kind.

Edited November 11, 2019 by Seven-N-Nine

[twist_to_open]

F this team!

[london_bills]

2 minutes ago, Urdad said:

 

If you have to ask, you know the answer

I'm sure you have an opinion! 

[WideNine]

8 minutes ago, Agent 91 said:

He was fine when we ran man principles. Hes just too small to be physical hes NORMALLY bend but dont break. Landry is definitely on par with AT LEAST Brown. He's a 1b receiver. Landry is a horrific match for Wallace

 

Yep. Not throwing Wallace under the bus, just noting there are match-ups that are bad for him.

 

Teams know to match him up with physical receivers who play that physical bump and run game and that is not Wallace's game. Wallace seems to be better suited keeping the play in front of him with a cushion coming up to prevent RAC, or trying to come up to make a play on the ball and schematically the Bills defense is ok with giving up those short gainers.

 

The problem is teams are forcing him to hang with physical receivers in man coverage for longer with routes that drag across the field, on deeper routes, and on slants where he is no longer playing to his strength. He is not small for a corner, but I would not consider him a very physical corner that can stay on a receiver, harass him, and prevent the completions.

 

 

 

[london_bills]

Just now, twist_to_open said:

F this team!

Haha

[oldmanfan]

Just now, TwistofFate said:

He was pathetic.   There is no act.  It was in plain sight all day. 

 

21st ranked pass defense in the league and he was sub 50%, 90% of the day. 

You cry about not hitting passes over 20 yards.  Hit Roberts right in the hands.  Drops it.

 

You are on record saying you would rather see the team pass for 300 and lose vs. win.  You don’t care if the team wins or loses.  You’d actually rather they lose to prove some bizarre point.  That pretty much tells us all how seriously to take your posts.

[london_bills]

Just now, london_bills said:

Haha

What a browns loss does. Disgusting 

[John from Riverside]

3 minutes ago, Avisan said:

For everyone complaining about the lack of rushing attempts:

 

The Browns overloaded the box for most of the game to force us to throw.  It was bad.  They were so confident we couldn't beat them through the air that they often had one more player than they "should" in the box based on our formation, and we still couldn't consistently throw it.  The third down play on the final drive is a perfect example of how little they respected Allen.  Just look at that uncovered bunch!  40+ QBs in the league would identify the blitz and complete the throw.  Our starter cannot.

 

Playcalling could be better but Allen is abysmal.

No...he is not...and no amount of saying this bull#### will make it into fruition

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

I'm doing none of those. And I know McDermott isn't going anywhere, the Bills don't have foreward thinking ownership. In the end, McDermott will be the same trash that Rex was, just a different kind.

So you know McD isn’t getting fired yet post after post you demand it.  That makes a ton of sense.

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

You cry about not hitting passes over 20 yards.  Hit Roberts right in the hands.  Drops it.

 

You are on record saying you would rather see the team pass for 300 and lose vs. win.  You don’t care if the team wins or loses.  You’d actually rather they lose to prove some bizarre point.  That pretty much tells us all how seriously to take your posts.

You gotta love idiots like Twist of Fate.....they make the most ridiculous posts in weeks where we win....that are simply not true....and in loss weekends he ramps it up

 

Such a horrible fan

[Avisan]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

No...he is not...and no amount of saying this bull#### will make it into fruition

Welcome to 2019, buttercup.  QBs have to do more than be tall, tough, and strong-armed these days.

[John from Riverside]

6 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Im fueled by Allen's terrible play. 

Then put your money where your mouth is

[thenorthremembers]

5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

No...he is not...and no amount of saying this bull#### will make it into fruition

This is the way it goes now.  If your QB isnt Mahomes then he sucks.   Its the way the world works, everything is black and white.

 

The offense is a work in progress.   He needs to get the deep ball right.  But he also needs some beasts on that side of the ball with him.  They have some nice players there now but there are no real blue chippers.  Also help if the kicker hits field goals.

Edited November 11, 2019 by thenorthremembers