ALLEN1QB Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? Because it's in the rule book? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Because it's in the rule book? Well that was a brilliant observation obviously that is the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suorangefan4 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Tell me how we were called for holding 4 times today and I don't think they were called for a single one. The Patriots get a lot of time to throw yet are never holding. Riiight Seems like a lot of the time when the Bills are driving the refs always spot a holding on the them. Edited September 29, 2019 by suorangefan4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Yeah, a personal foul should be an automatic first down even with offsetting penalties. If the foul is in the O it should be automatic loss of down. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Agree emotionally, disagree with my head. It's fair enough over the course of a league. I do have to wonder, though, given the Wilfork-Losman hit, if BB****** gave his defenders carte blanche to go helmet-to-helmet with Allen if he ran free. Allen had what, 1 open run and 1 H2H hit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? Couldn't agree more, that was a travesty today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? I was thinking this too, hell if you see a lineman holding just start taking free shots at QB's and WRs to knock them out of game... worst that happens is you replay the down *shrug* What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? Just like a tiktak holding call on morse negates a Patriots Offside that would have been a first down 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? I agree. That doesn't seem right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: I was thinking this too, hell if you see a lineman holding just start taking free shots at QB's and WRs to knock them out of game... worst that happens is you replay the down *shrug* What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? Just like a tiktak holding call on morse negates a Patriots Offside that would have been a first down you can see on the replay that the flag was being thrown while Allen was running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said: you can see on the replay that the flag was being thrown while Allen was running shut up 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 It is mind boggling how many critical plays the refs give that team. Crucial, game altering penalties always seem to benefit them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: I was thinking this too, hell if you see a lineman holding just start taking free shots at QB's and WRs to knock them out of game... worst that happens is you replay the down *shrug* What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? Just like a tiktak holding call on morse negates a Patriots Offside that would have been a first down The flag for the hold was thrown before allen was hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said: Tell me how we were called for holding 4 times today and I don't think they were called for a single one. The Patriots get a lot of time to throw yet are never holding. Riiight Seems like a lot of the time when the Bills are driving the refs always spot a holding on the them. I think the rule book book says they are exempt from the rule. It’s stated in part F subsection U 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, PolishPrince said: shut up I’m not happy about it, I was pissed off watching the replay and saw it and knew we were ***** Edited September 29, 2019 by Bray Wyatt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? The rule dhould berither A flagrant PF over rules all penalties or it’s a double penalty of two 15yards. One is removed with offense penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFront_USAF Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: I was thinking this too, hell if you see a lineman holding just start taking free shots at QB's and WRs to knock them out of game... worst that happens is you replay the down *shrug* What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? Just like a tiktak holding call on morse negates a Patriots Offside that would have been a first down That's what I was wondering. The precedent they just set, is that as soon as a flag gets thrown on the opposing team the players enter the thunderdome and all bets are off. Who cares if you take a vicious h2h shot on a ball carrier or blown out someone's ACL with a late hit, as long as there was another penalty it will just offset. Its a bad look when the league is preaching player safety as a priority, but weighs a weak holding call the same as potentially killing/crippling a player with a cheap shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The flag for the hold was thrown before allen was hit Shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: Shut up How bout you shut your mouth It's a dirty hit but the flag was thrown before it Edited September 29, 2019 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 33 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? I wonder why...Brady couldn't play today because he had a full stomach....and it wasn't ranch dressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, djp14150 said: I think the rule book book says they are exempt from the rule. It’s stated in part F subsection U No doubt. Like that clear intentional grounding on Brady in the 4th that never got called. I don't want to really bang on the officials as the Bills had this game but made a ton of mistakes on the field today costing us this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biLLyBuFFs Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 if the league is serious about protecting the athletes, then ANY helmet to helmet regardless of "offsetting" penalties should be enforced. That is essentially a free pass to F someone up if, hey.. the lineman held a second late compared to my QBs head just got rammed full speed by another head. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 50 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Well that was a brilliant observation obviously that is the case Then it was not a brilliant question... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 The nfl is BS, entertainment purpose only garbage. Manipulated to benefit max revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said: The nfl is BS, entertainment purpose only garbage. Manipulated to benefit max revenue. You don't say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochester rob Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said: The nfl is BS, entertainment purpose only garbage. Manipulated to benefit max revenue. and Brady and the pats are the cash cow of the NFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 There were way too many instances today of unfair reffing. The no call when Josh got face masked had a 1000% chance of being called if it we're Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Dan said: It is mind boggling how many critical plays the refs give that team. Crucial, game altering penalties always seem to benefit them. No. It happens to everyone equally. I’ve read it here for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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