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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27584726/nfl-pass-blocking-pass-rushing-rankings-2019-pbwr-prwr-leaderboard

 

NFL pass-blocking, pass-rushing rankings: 2019 PBWR, PRWR leaderboard

Top 10 OT Pass Block Win Rate

1. La'el Collins, Cowboys, 100%
2. Greg Robinson, Browns, 100%
3. Ty Nsekhe, Bills, 100%
4. Mike McGlinchey, 49ers, 100%
5. Orlando Brown Jr., Ravens, 100%
6. Cody Ford, Bills, 100%
7. Andrew Whitworth, Rams, 96%
8. Nate Solder, Giants, 96%
9. Kelvin Beachum, Jets, 96%
10. Brandon Shell, Jets, 96%

 

 

I know a lot of folks have said Ford looked bad, but the analytics say different.

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This can’t be right.  I vividly recall Nsekhe blowing a pickup on a stunt and Allen getting smoked because of it.  I believe it was on a completion to Brown.  The comment in our house was that Ty was going get Josh killed if Ty didn’t open his eyes. 

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1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

This can’t be right.  I vividly recall Nsekhe blowing a pickup on a stunt and Allen getting smoked because of it.  I believe it was on a completion to Brown.  The comment in our house was that Ty was going get Josh killed if Ty didn’t open his eyes. 

 

I wonder if the fact that it was a completion accounts for a positive grade on the play? If the QB has the time to throw a completion then the OL did it's job?

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2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

This can’t be right.  I vividly recall Nsekhe blowing a pickup on a stunt and Allen getting smoked because of it.  I believe it was on a completion to Brown.  The comment in our house was that Ty was going get Josh killed if Ty didn’t open his eyes. 

 

The metric is whether a tackle can hold the block for 2.5 seconds.  I guess that is the magic number.  He may have gotten beat, but he hit that 2.5 second mark, apparently. 

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Hmm... Both Jets tackles made this list? I have this feeling Sam Darnold would probably question that one.

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3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

The metric is whether a tackle can hold the block for 2.5 seconds.  I guess that is the magic number.  He may have gotten beat, but he hit that 2.5 second mark, apparently. 

 

Which is plenty of time .... for Tom Brady.

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9 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Which is plenty of time .... for Tom Brady.

 

2.5 seconds is the rhythm to get the ball out. I know this because I'd always make it "One Mississippi, Two Mississippi, Three -THROW THE BALL!" while watching Tyrod.

 

edit: Guys, Im not saying Tyrod would throw it at 2.5 seconds. Just the opposite. That I was always yelling at him at 2.5 seconds to get rid of it.

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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

2.5 seconds is the rhythm to get the ball out. I know this because I'd always make it "One Mississippi, Two Mississippi, Three -THROW THE BALL!" while watching Tyrod.

 

You must have been saying Mississippi REEEEAAAAALLLLYYYYY slow!!!!

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3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Wait...I thought Ford sucked 🤔

Guess we all thought wrong 😳

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2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

You must have been saying Mississippi REEEEAAAAALLLLYYYYY slow!!!!

 

Well, just because I was screaming "THROW THE BALL!" doesnt mean he ever listened to me.

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I distinctly remember Ty falling flat on his back immediately after the snap on one play. Josh stepped up nicely and dropped a dime to Cole that he dropped, but idk how you can give a 100% grade when he let a free rusher in. Does anyone else remember the play I'm referring to? 

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Just now, NextYear'sTheOne said:

I distinctly remember Ty falling flat on his back immediately after the snap on one play. Josh stepped up nicely and dropped a dime to Cole that he dropped, but idk how you can give a 100% grade when he let a free rusher in. Does anyone else remember the play I'm referring to? 

 

Thank you!

 

I couldn't remember if it was Ford or Ty, but one of them got pancaked BAD.

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5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

2.5 seconds is the rhythm to get the ball out. I know this because I'd always make it "One Mississippi, Two Mississippi, Three -THROW THE BALL!" while watching Tyrod.

3, 4, 5, 6,7 if you talking about TT

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19 minutes ago, NextYear'sTheOne said:

I distinctly remember Ty falling flat on his back immediately after the snap on one play. Josh stepped up nicely and dropped a dime to Cole that he dropped, but idk how you can give a 100% grade when he let a free rusher in. Does anyone else remember the play I'm referring to? 

Yes, someone had actually linked a video and it was the same play where Beasley dropped a pass along the right sideline. I originally thought Ty got trucked but after that replay it just looks like he fell over, almost like someone stepped on his foot as he was getting off the line.

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Beachumm had a 96%?  I don’t understand 

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2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Beachumm had a 96%?  I don’t understand 

 

Maybe if you never actually engage in a block, you can’t be dinged for not holding a block?

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No chance this is accurate. Neskhe directly got beaten once really badly and Allen had to rush a throw incomoplete to Beasley on the sideline. 

 

I rewatched the game twice.

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2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Thank you!

 

I couldn't remember if it was Ford or Ty, but one of them got pancaked BAD.

 

If you’re referring to the play Nsekhe fell on his butt seconds after the snap, it wasn’t a pancake. I’ve watched that play 3 or 4 times trying to figure out why he fell, but I could only guess his foot got stepped on. He went down without a lineman touching him. 

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1 minute ago, JayBaller10 said:

 

If you’re referring to the play Nsekhe fell on his butt seconds after the snap, it wasn’t a pancake. I’ve watched that play 3 or 4 times trying to figure out why he fell, but I could only guess his foot got stepped on. He went down without a lineman touching him. 

 

That is likely the one.  In fairness, I caught it in my peripheral vision and never looked at a replay.  I just remember saying, "damn, someone got pancaked!"

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2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27584726/nfl-pass-blocking-pass-rushing-rankings-2019-pbwr-prwr-leaderboard

 

NFL pass-blocking, pass-rushing rankings: 2019 PBWR, PRWR leaderboard

Top 10 OT Pass Block Win Rate

1. La'el Collins, Cowboys, 100%
2. Greg Robinson, Browns, 100%
3. Ty Nsekhe, Bills, 100%
4. Mike McGlinchey, 49ers, 100%
5. Orlando Brown Jr., Ravens, 100%
6. Cody Ford, Bills, 100%
7. Andrew Whitworth, Rams, 96%
8. Nate Solder, Giants, 96%
9. Kelvin Beachum, Jets, 96%
10. Brandon Shell, Jets, 96%

 

 

I know a lot of folks have said Ford looked bad, but the analytics say different.

 

PFF ranked them below average too.  

 

Then again PFF gave Motor a “poor” score too because he bobbled 2 catches that he still caught. Lol

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2 hours ago, NextYear'sTheOne said:

I distinctly remember Ty falling flat on his back immediately after the snap on one play. Josh stepped up nicely and dropped a dime to Cole that he dropped, but idk how you can give a 100% grade when he let a free rusher in. Does anyone else remember the play I'm referring to? 

 

Me too. I genuinely doubt these numbers. I have only got halfway through the all 22 and I have seen a couple of breakdowns from Cody and one from Ty. 

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