LABILLBACKER Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: My guess is they unpack Morse from his bubble wrap after they return from Carolina. No reason to submit him to another team’s pounding before they have to. I wouldn't play him till week 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 54 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I wouldn't play him till week 1 I would play him next week. Lets see what we got, if he is a white elephant lets IR him now and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said: I would play him next week. Lets see what we got, if he is a white elephant lets IR him now and move on. Yeah I think they need to play him one half in the third game if he is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 17 hours ago, Element115 said: Has any info been released just how Morse received this concussion? They were not even in pads at the time. As I recall it happened first day of padded practice. Didn’t realize it at the time but symptoms appeared a day or couple later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: I wouldn't play him till week 1 Agreed. Give him as much time to heal as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 These guys aren't dumb. They will sit him until week 1. Outside of Allen, he's the most important piece on this offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, McBean said: These guys aren't dumb. They will sit him until week 1. Outside of Allen, he's the most important piece on this offense. Just hope it’s a choice... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 After learning what Feliciano had to say about the QB making the line call, Morse being out isn’t that big of a deal from that standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 19 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Agreed. Give him as much time to heal as possible. Thats exactly what their doing. My guess is that he actually has cleared it but they are just saying he’s still in it to avoid the media and questions why he’s not practicing if he’s cleared protocol. He’ll miraculously clear protocol my guess the week of the 3rd preseason game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, gonzo1105 said: Thats exactly what their doing. My guess is that he actually has cleared it but they are just saying he’s still in it to avoid the media and questions why he’s not practicing if he’s cleared protocol. He’ll miraculously clear protocol my guess the week of the 3rd preseason game I hope that's what it is. It's been 2 weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 They are being massively careful with Morse. That's all it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 9:07 PM, Element115 said: Has any info been released just how Morse received this concussion? They were not even in pads at the time. They were in pads, but there was no specific hit. Experienced symptoms later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: They are being massively careful with Morse. That's all it is. I think he's one concussion away from retirement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think he's one concussion away from retirement. Unfortunately, you are probably correct...one more and he will have to certainly start considering that his future health is more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, JaCrispy said: Unfortunately, you are probably correct...one more and he will have to certainly start considering that his future health is more important. Definitely. And I do NOT fault Beane for bringing him in. Everyone has an injury history of some sort. It's a crap shoot. I'm sure if Luke Keuchly was available, multiple teams would show interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 You'd think it'd be totally cleared up by now (usually 7-10 days). Hopefully he's not having post-concussion syndrome symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: They are being massively careful with Morse. That's all it is. I agree, that is what is going on, Morse will be playing week one. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, njbuff said: They are being massively careful with Morse. That's all it is. "Massively careful" for a concussion would be IR. When you get concussion symptoms without a big hit that is very, very concerning. It's possible that he was having these exact kind of concussion symptoms all thru the Chiefs playoff run last year but you don't get paid in free agency if teams know you are injured. Fans assume that the medical staff can instantly tell when a player is exhibiting symptoms but I suspect that a lot of the final analysis is "how do you feel?" and that can be lied about to get on the field. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: "Massively careful" for a concussion would be IR. When you get concussion symptoms without a big hit that is very, very concerning. It's possible that he was having these exact kind of concussion symptoms all thru the Chiefs playoff run last year but you don't get paid in free agency if teams know you are injured. Fans assume that the medical staff can instantly tell when a player is exhibiting symptoms but I suspect that a lot of the final analysis is "how do you feel?" and that can be lied about to get on the field. This. And -yes, I’m going there- he’s alluded to how thankful he and his family are for this huge contract so he can get the proper care for his brother. If y’all think WE’RE concerned about him, how do think they feel? With all of this, playing in completely meaningless games in August makes zero sense. He’ll introduce himself to the Jets. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I think he's one concussion away from retirement. I'm just curious...are you basing this on anything in particular, or is it pure conjecture on your part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Thats exactly what their doing. My guess is that he actually has cleared it but they are just saying he’s still in it to avoid the media and questions why he’s not practicing if he’s cleared protocol. He’ll miraculously clear protocol my guess the week of the 3rd preseason game In your hypothetical- That he’s hung up in protocol for nearly a month is a much bigger media story than he’s good and taking some vet time along the way 1 minute ago, Logic said: I'm just curious...are you basing this on anything in particular, or is it pure conjecture on your part? Its clearly conjecture but given the current situation and info available it’s not wild speculation. Speculative for sure but not crazy out of line with a guy with several concussions and now long term in the protocol again Edited August 11, 2019 by NoSaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, NoSaint said: That he’s hung up in protocol for nearly a month is a much bigger media story than he’s good and taking some vet time along the way eh, we’ll never know, so this too is conjecture. Adding to him not playing in meaningless games is a concern of him battling a highly prized rookie DT who’s looking to make a huge name for himself and laughs when the Head Coach kicks him out of practice for crashing into ‘the Franchise’. Too bad Ducasse sucked even worse at Center. He could have lasted the whole preseason as Oliver Fodder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Logic said: I'm just curious...are you basing this on anything in particular, or is it pure conjecture on your part? Pure conjecture. Based on a history of concussions, the last one occurring when he was playing the equivalent of flag football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: This. And -yes, I’m going there- he’s alluded to how thankful he and his family are for this huge contract so he can get the proper care for his brother. If y’all think WE’RE concerned about him, how do think they feel? With all of this, playing in completely meaningless games in August makes zero sense. He’ll introduce himself to the Jets. One factor to consider with Morse is that he is not your typical center who can only project to G or C. The interior positions obviously play a lot of "head down" football where it's hard to avoid sudden head collisions, off-balance jarring hits and neck-snapbacks that cause concussion. But Morse has a tackle frame and athleticism. He was a top recruit as an OT and was primarily an OT at Missouri. If he had refused to play inside during the draft process he would still have likely been gone by round 5, IMO I think this year they will cross their fingers and play him at center regardless but his future as a Bill could be outside. It would be a financial kick in the teeth to pay a swing tackle that kind of dough but he could also be much more than that..........tackle doesn't seem like a need now but that changes quickly..........but they really are pretty much locked in for 3 years with him so they may need pivot him from the pivot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: One factor to consider with Morse is that he is not your typical center who can only project to G or C. The interior positions obviously play a lot of "head down" football where it's hard to avoid sudden head collisions, off-balance jarring hits and neck-snapbacks that cause concussion. But Morse has a tackle frame and athleticism. He was a top recruit as an OT and was primarily an OT at Missouri. If he had refused to play inside during the draft process he would still have likely been gone by round 5, IMO I think this year they will cross their fingers and play him at center regardless but his future as a Bill could be outside. It would be a financial kick in the teeth to pay a swing tackle that kind of dough but he could also be much more than that..........tackle doesn't seem like a need now but that changes quickly..........but they really are pretty much locked in for 3 years with him so they may need pivot him from the pivot. The out with him comes after next year (5 million). I sure hope it doesn't come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 23 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Agreed. Give him as much time to heal as possible. i don't know the answer to this, but does taking more time off make you less susceptible to future concussions? Of course you want him 100% when he returns, but regardless, he's just one more hit away from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, klos63 said: i don't know the answer to this, but does taking more time off make you less susceptible to future concussions? Of course you want him 100% when he returns, but regardless, he's just one more hit away from another. Yeah. It really worries me with him. He's obviously VERY susceptible to them and like someone else has said here, we don't know how much he hid symptoms last season because he wanted to get paid. I'm sure people will accuse me of being over dramatic, but if he goes out and gets a concussion early in the season, I think it could be it for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 50 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: eh, we’ll never know, so this too is conjecture. Adding to him not playing in meaningless games is a concern of him battling a highly prized rookie DT who’s looking to make a huge name for himself and laughs when the Head Coach kicks him out of practice for crashing into ‘the Franchise’. Too bad Ducasse sucked even worse at Center. He could have lasted the whole preseason as Oliver Fodder.. If he is still in protocol, real or top secret fake protocol, through next week I don’t think it’s going out to far on a limb to say that it’s a substantial news event for preseason football. It’s not like resting a guy with a strained muscle or rolled ankle a few extra days. Telling the media he still can’t pass recovery tests after a month is noteworthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, klos63 said: i don't know the answer to this, but does taking more time off make you less susceptible to future concussions? Of course you want him 100% when he returns, but regardless, he's just one more hit away from another. You are correct in that the more concussions you have the more susceptible you are to additional ones. Someone who isn’t fully healed - and has head trauma - that has has even higher odds of another concussion though. I guess you do what you can and hope for the best. Or you hang ‘em up. Edited August 11, 2019 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I'm expecting a new fangled helmet when he's back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, JimmyNoodles said: I'm expecting a new fangled helmet when he's back. If it were that easy, everyone would be wearing them already. This sucks. I’m praying he can be all we had hoped for, but I’ll put the man ahead of the player. It was a gamble. We knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just a quick reminder that none of us know anything about this situation. That is all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, skibum said: Just a quick reminder that none of us know anything about this situation. That is all. Well, all we know is what we see. He’s not practicing nor did he play in the last game. There is a reason for that. We just don’t know the details of why and what the prognosis is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, skibum said: Just a quick reminder that none of us know anything about this situation. That is all. We know he is under observation for a concussion and is not cleared to play...so we do know something 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I have PTSD after the Eric Woods shocker. This aint helping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: I have PTSD after the Eric Woods shocker. This aint helping Is a man shocker "3 in the stink"? I was going to ask K-9 the other day when he was sharing his story about being shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 The preseason giveth and the preseason taketh away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I mean, it’s possible he really is struggling to recover, but how many coaches wouldn’t love to have one of their star players sitting during pre-season? I have a feeling he’ll play in the third game, start practicing before it, and then play the opener without a problem. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I mean, it’s possible he really is struggling to recover, but how many coaches wouldn’t love to have one of their star players sitting during pre-season? I have a feeling he’ll play in the third game, start practicing before it, and then play the opener without a problem. That's what I'm hoping for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I mean, it’s possible he really is struggling to recover, but how many coaches wouldn’t love to have one of their star players sitting during pre-season? I have a feeling he’ll play in the third game, start practicing before it, and then play the opener without a problem. What? None? Particularly with a new acquisition on the OL. The OL success is very much about cohesion and communication and that is best built thru live football. No way McProcess sees this absence as a positive. *At best* it's an unfortunate but necessitated inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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