SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Home wrecking control freak LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: Hopefully Belichick retires too. We all hate Brady, but at the end of the day, Belichick is a damn mastermind. As everyone has pointed out, the passing game has declined significantly, but BB keeps finding ways to be dominant. This is what keeps me from getting too optimistic. I believe BB could take any roster in the league and make them competitive, at minimum. He’s scary good. Brady leaving will probably only mean that they go from guaranteed AFCCG’s and Superbowls to guaranteed playoff berths. I need more than that. I need that team to go 4-12 for at least 20 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 11:43 AM, frostbitmic said: Paying him millions under the table wouldn't come as a shock from this cheating franchise. but he's not stupid. i'm sure there's a deal in place for all the team friendly contracts....like 10% in the team going forward. On 7/23/2019 at 1:15 PM, Rc2catch said: I watched most of his games last year, he’s not the same QB anymore. Stats stats stats... google away. There’s a lot more to games than the stats. Brady can’t throw deep anymore. He was dangerous cause he would kill you on short range and dump offs but you had to respect his deep shots down the field. His running back had 8-900 of those yards. They made the playoffs and were a good team last year because they were a pretty dominant run team. They have completely transformed from years ago. he's dangerous because he knows the game better than anybody else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 23 hours ago, matter2003 said: Thats the whole problem...they transform every year into a different type of team but still do it better than everyone else ...and i would bet that he wants to do it one more time to ensure no one can catch him. he;s gonna drive that team into the postseason one more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Considering all the beautiful women he has been with, an extension is the last thing I would have guessed Brady needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go-Bills Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 If his passing game does fall off this year due to lack of talent or age, we absolutely have the D-fence to dominate the Pats! I also believe we will have an offence to get over the hump!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Behind Edelman, the Patriots don't know who's catching the ball. https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/07/25/with-no-julian-edelman-tom-brady-waits-for-another-receiver-to-emerge/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerbelly Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/24/2019 at 7:47 AM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I'm going to concur with the "We should be so lucky" It was clear in the playoffs that Brady had lost some of his mojo, especially in the Rams game. He looked very mortal. That said, I've been predicting his backslide for close on 8 years now, and it keeps not happening. Even if Brady's play is half of what it was in 2017, he still might make a case for best QB in the division just because everyone else is so raw. (2018 draft picks all). Until I see otherwise, I consider the Pats the team to beat in the division. But man oh man, would it be sweet to watch Brady get pummeled into retirement this year. Hey, I can dream, can't I? If Brady was playing in Jim Kelly's era, that would've happened some years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) I think Brady plays to 45.So four more years. Whether or not his final years are with the Patriots or not could be another story. He'll want to finish ahead of Drew Brees in career passing yards and TD's so i think that makes him guaranteed to play another two years if this were to be Bree's last year which it probably isn't. On 7/23/2019 at 10:03 AM, Fan in Chicago said: My wish is that he is sacked, intercepted and beaten into retirement. I want him to retire because his skills fall off a cliff after repeated hits by the Bills DL. That way he will be remembered for having whimpered into retirement as opposed to having gloriously ridden off into the sunset. He won't walk away at the top of his game and playing like a top 10 QB. He'll go the Peyton route and play till he clearly sucks and doesn't have it anymore. The one caveat being if he hits age 45 and is still playing at a high level then I could see him walking away before his skills fall off a cliff. Edited July 27, 2019 by Sammy Watkins' Rib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 11:43 AM, frostbitmic said: Paying him millions under the table wouldn't come as a shock from this cheating franchise. In all honesty, why in the world wouldn't every team in the league do some of that sort of thing, at least with 1 or 2 key players on the team who command enormous salaries? All guys involved are billionaires or multi-millionaires, and many players, I'm sure, have organized various business entities for one purpose or another, probably many for charitable work, etc. It wouldn't be very hard to get money from point A to point E, going through several stops along the way if you wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 My understanding is they cant announce any deal till Aug 8th. Some rule states you cant have 2 contracts in a calender year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 11:43 AM, frostbitmic said: Paying him millions under the table wouldn't come as a shock from this cheating franchise. Thats pretty much what they are doing isn't it? Sorry if this was posted...and I may not be clear on 100% of the details...but I know a few years ago the NFL 'investigated' the Pats about this and let it go. Supposedly one of Bradys businesses in the Boston area has a deal (or deal) with the team. The team uses his business, pretty much overpays compared to other options...so that money goes to Brady 'outside' of the cap. Once again, if someone else knows more of the exact details of it they can correct anything I said above..but I know they are doing something like that. Shouldn't be a surprise though...the Pats deny any cheating when confronted with a direct accusation..but they seem to really REALLY like putting out there how smart they are by 'gaming the system' and breaking rules (as long as they aren't caught.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 This will definitely be the year Brady is done!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 12:58 PM, Binghamton Beast said: Yeah. 4,300 yards and 29 TD’s last year. Glorified game manager. Good stats but he has always been a game managing QB. He is very very good at it. Alex Smith is also a very good game manager QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 12:58 PM, Binghamton Beast said: Yeah. 4,300 yards and 29 TD’s last year. Glorified game manager. His “bad” season would be the greatest in Bills history. ? game manager 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Good stats but he has always been a game managing QB. He is very very good at it. Alex Smith is also a very good game manager QB. Oh boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: This will definitely be the year Brady is done!!! ...just like the last six with the 6' hole dug........wondrous..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Good stats but he has always been a game managing QB. He is very very good at it. Alex Smith is also a very good game manager QB. Are you really comparing Alex Smith to Tom Brady??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: Oh boy. Explain to me what a game managing QB is and then explain to me how that is not Brady. You must be one of those guys that doesnt realize Brady is one of the worst ever at chucking down field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Just now, formerlyofCtown said: Explain to me what a game managing QB is and then explain to me how that is not Brady. You must be one of those guys that doesnt realize Brady is one of the worst ever at chucking down field. Worst ever!!! ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...just like the last six with the 6' hole dug........wondrous..... So getting older makes that less likely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: So getting older makes that less likely? PTR. You’ve been saying this every year for the last 15 years! Eventually you will be right (Brady is 53, PTR - this is the year Brady falls off the cliff! ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: PTR. You’ve been saying this every year for the last 15 years! Eventually you will be right (Brady is 53, PTR - this is the year Brady falls off the cliff! ?) So you are saying that Brady can't fall off at age 42? Cause that is what it sounds like to me. New England is not exactly overflowing with talent right now. (Despite your 4-grades up and down their roster.) So Brady is going to have to put on his cape (or cheat extra hard) to earn another ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 22 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Good stats but he has always been a game managing QB. He is very very good at it. Alex Smith is also a very good game manager QB. Alex Smith should never....ever...be mentioned in the same sentence as Tom freaking Brady..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 List of Tom Brady's NFL records... Records owned by Brady Regular season wins by a starting quarterback (207) Most passing yards, regular season and playoffs (81,693) Most passing touchdowns, postseason included: 590 Most touchdowns thrown to different receivers (71) Division titles (16) Playoff games started (40) Playoff wins (30) Playoff touchdown passes (73) Playoff passing yards (11,179) Super Bowl appearances (9) Super Bowl wins (6) Super Bowl MVPs (4) Super Bowl touchdown passes (18) Super Bowl passing yards (2,838) List of Alex Smith's NFL record.............................................................. .............................still looking.................................................................. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 1:03 PM, Fan in Chicago said: My wish is that he is sacked, intercepted and beaten into retirement. I want him to retire because his skills fall off a cliff after repeated hits by the Bills DL. That way he will be remembered for having whimpered into retirement as opposed to having gloriously ridden off into the sunset. Remember Favres last game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Iron Maiden said: Alex Smith should never....ever...be mentioned in the same sentence as Tom freaking Brady..... Except that everything I said is true. 4 hours ago, Iron Maiden said: List of Tom Brady's NFL records... Records owned by Brady Regular season wins by a starting quarterback (207) Most passing yards, regular season and playoffs (81,693) Most passing touchdowns, postseason included: 590 Most touchdowns thrown to different receivers (71) Division titles (16) Playoff games started (40) Playoff wins (30) Playoff touchdown passes (73) Playoff passing yards (11,179) Super Bowl appearances (9) Super Bowl wins (6) Super Bowl MVPs (4) Super Bowl touchdown passes (18) Super Bowl passing yards (2,838) List of Alex Smith's NFL record.............................................................. .............................still looking.................................................................. Yup nobody ever said Alex Smith is as good as Tom Brady. Tom Brady is the greatest game manager QB to ever play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Except that everything I said is true. Name a QB that is not a " System QB ".....then tell us how different it is as oppose to what Brady's been doing for 18 years....my comment was more a response to the weak attempt at comparing Brady to Alex Smith.... Edited July 28, 2019 by Iron Maiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Just now, Iron Maiden said: Name a QB that is not a " System QB ".....then tell us how different it as oppose to what Brady's been doing for 18 years....my comment was more a response to the weak attempt at comparing Brady to Alex Smith.... Dan Marino, Drew Brees. Tom Brady cant and never has been able to chuck it deep. Drew Brees on the other hand can spin it. Tom Brady cant make every through there is. Others have been able to. Dan Marino, Drew Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Dan Marino, Drew Brees. Tom Brady cant and never has been able to chuck it deep. Drew Brees on the other hand can spin it. Tom Brady cant make every through there is. Others have been able to. Dan Marino, Drew Brees. Did you miss the entire 2007 season when he threw 50 TDs...25 of those to Randy Moss.....all you have to do is go to youtube...type Brady 50tds......there goes your argument.....you have to do better than that...cmon.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said: Did you miss the entire 2007 season when he threw 50 TDs...25 of those to Randy Moss.....all you have to do is go to youtube...type Brady 50tds......there goes your argument.....you have to do better than that...cmon.... How about his entire career completion percentage while throwing it deep. Ive already done the research and already posted it on this site. Not doin it again. I already know the statistics. Going to nfl.com and looking at TDs and completions doesnt tell the whole story. Dont be lazy dig deeper, because I could care less what your opinion of my opinion is. Especially when mine is based on deeper analytics. And because you respond doesnt defeat my arguement. Your response doesnt prove he can make all the throws. Peterman could throw TDs to Moss. Edited July 28, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: How about his entire career completion percentage while throwing it deep. Ive already done the research and already posted it on this site. Not doin it again. I already know the statistics. Going to nfl.com and looking at TDs and completions doesnt tell the whole story. Dont be lazy dig deeper, because I could care less what your opinion of my opinion is. Especially when mine is based on deeper analytics. And because you respond doesnt defeat my arguement. Your response doesnt prove he can make all the throws. Peterman could throw TDs to Moss. I simply refuted your point that, and I quote once again, ..." Tom Brady cant and never has been able to chuck it deep."....... That statement is factually false.....He's done it more than a few times......Brady's strength is being able to adjust depending on who NE plays...if you need him to control the pace and run a running attack, he'll do it....he has shown to be able to also beat you in a shootout.....he's the winiest QB when throwing more than 50 times per game....some of them I'm sure are more than 30 yards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Brady chucks it when he has a deep guy he trusts. I’ve rarely seen a QB for whom trust is such a huge priority. Moss was really that guy. He’d throw into all kinds of coverage for that him. As long as it was in the vicinity, he’d get it. No one really like that these days. He fully trusts Edelman, but most of their routes are shorter and more precise. And I do think he’s losing that range, regardless. So does BB, given how he is building that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Iron Maiden said: I simply refuted your point that, and I quote once again, ..." Tom Brady cant and never has been able to chuck it deep."....... That statement is factually false.....He's done it more than a few times......Brady's strength is being able to adjust depending on who NE plays...if you need him to control the pace and run a running attack, he'll do it....he has shown to be able to also beat you in a shootout.....he's the winiest QB when throwing more than 50 times per game....some of them I'm sure are more than 30 yards... Wrong answer bud he has one of the lowest deepball completion percentages of all-time. You just lost any credibility. Dont call something factual when its not. Unlike you I actually researched it. Youre just pullin ***** out your a$$ like most other people do. This convo is done and you are of no informational value. Edited July 29, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Wrong answer bud he has one of the lowest deepball completion percentages of all-time. You just lost any credibility. Dont call something factual when its not. Unlike you I actually researched it. Youre just pullin ***** out your a$$ like most other people do. This convo is done and you are of no informational value. holy crap !!.....you just spilled a whole lot of estrogen on my laptop.....I'll need a few moments to clean this up !!...lol Yeah...Tom Brady has NEVER had a TD pass over 30 yards.....can't and never has....you're an idiot !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 ***** Tom Brady 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: he's the whiniest QB when throwing more than 50 times per game Fixed. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 12:58 PM, Binghamton Beast said: Yeah. 4,300 yards and 29 TD’s last year. Glorified game manager. Did you see the AFC Championship game or the Super Bowl? While still a good QB, he has clearly declined and can no longer carry the team like he once could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Just now, Chicken Boo said: Did you see the AFC Championship game or the Super Bowl? While still a good QB, he has clearly declined and can no longer carry the team like he once could. I dispute none of this, but you’re a chicken!!! ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Did you see the AFC Championship game or the Super Bowl? While still a good QB, he has clearly declined and can no longer carry the team like he once could. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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