HappyDays Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Virgil said: Question, why did you feel you had to jump to 12 to get him? The only team that might take him would have been the Bills at 15, even that's far from a done deal. I'd also think Marquise Brown would be the better fit for them. But that's just my opinion I actually originally tried to trade to 11 because I thought the Packers would want him. But once they put it out there that they wanted to trade down I jumped on it. I see the Dolphins, Bills, Panthers, and Giants as potential landing spots for Metcalf. For me the elite talent is worth an extra 2nd and 4th, especially since I have the extra 3rd available from the Antonio Brown trade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I actually originally tried to trade to 11 because I thought the Packers would want him. But once they put it out there that they wanted to trade down I jumped on it. I see the Dolphins, Bills, Panthers, and Giants as potential landing spots for Metcalf. For me the elite talent is worth an extra 2nd and 4th, especially since I have the extra 3rd available from the Antonio Brown trade. I considered it for the Packers. But then I read that they haven't spent a 1st round pick on a WR in 17 years and haven't drafted one in the top 50 picks in 11 years. Since I'm trying to represent what I think the Packers would really do, I figured that WR wasn't the right move for me. There are two other players that I really liked here, and I ALMOST turned down the trade to take one of them. In the end, I felt the value of the trade was too good to pass up. A win-win for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Packers made out like Bandits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: Packers made out like Bandits At least I didn't take Drew Lock, amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, bkep32 said: hope dolphins pick soon want to get this thing rollin' Hoping for a trade down. It wont be long, Mr ants in the pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Logic said: At least I didn't take Drew Lock, amirite? It’s not too late!! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, turftoe said: Hoping for a trade down. It wont be long, Mr ants in the pants. Let me just say I feel jipped. There should absolutely be more than 2 trades at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 No bites on a trade down. The dolphins are in rebuild mode and will pass on a QB here. All 3 of the Clemson lineman are still available. Wilkins will fit the New England south defense. The Dolphins select Christian Wilkins DT/DE Clemson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 @RyanC883 and the Falcons are on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, turftoe said: No bites on a trade down. The dolphins are in rebuild mode and will pass on a QB here. All 3 of the Clemson lineman are still available. Wilkins will fit the New England south defense. The Dolphins select Christian Wilkins DT/DE Clemson. Damn you. Good pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 C'mon........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: With the 12th overall pick the Steelers select DK Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss. James Washington was a disappointment last year, and Smith-Schuster is a great #2 but hasn't really flashed #1 ability. Roethlisberger's window to win another Super Bowl is closing so we're going with the elite physical talent to hopefully pick up the slack left by the Antonio Brown trade. @turftoe and the Dolphins are on the clock. Solid move, although I would be upset on draft day 1 hour ago, Virgil said: Question, why did you feel you had to jump to 12 to get him? The only team that might take him would have been the Bills at 15, even that's far from a done deal. I'd also think Marquise Brown would be the better fit for them. But that's just my opinion Dolphins and Bills both need a WR. Even Green Bay could use him. Looks like we could get Hockenson or Fant at 15, that is really good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 With the Giants coming up in 3 picks. The Giants are fielding calls for trades at this time. Come with your best offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Damn! Wilkins off the board to Miami! I really want Wilkins if Ed Oliver is off the board for us. Just salary at #9 and get our next Kyle Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Perfect. Now that everyone has a break for the rest of the night. Sit back, take a look at your boards and try and realize if you are going to get your guy by trading up with the G-Men of New York. We are still heading out trade offers at this time and look forward to making negotiations going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) With the 14th pick, the Falcons select Montez Sweat, DE, Mississippi State. The Falcons are excited to get what they consider a top-10 talent and elite rusher at 14, and put pressure on Drew Brees in the Falcon's quest to win a SB in the Matt Ryan era. @Virgil and @BuffaloHokie13 and all of us...the Buffalo Bills, are now on the clock. Edited April 23, 2019 by RyanC883 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) Poll is up. Considering Hock is still there and we got an extra 2nd round pick, I think that was a great deal. Having Sweat and Wilkinson go right before us took away some nice options though. Edited April 23, 2019 by Virgil 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Virgil said: Poll is up No trade back option again? More picks could be good Edited April 23, 2019 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, mrags said: No trade back option again? More picks could be good At this point, we have 2 2nd’s and a 3rd. We only have so many open spots. If anything, we may try trading back up. With a TE there and two quality offensive lineman, staying put seems the choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Nah, I'm taking Hock at 15 and happy with the extra second. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: At this point, we have 2 2nd’s and a 3rd. We only have so many open spots. If anything, we may try trading back up. With a TE there and two quality offensive lineman, staying put seems the choice Don’t you think you should even offer it tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 @Virgil How is Marquise Brown a poll choice for Bills (doesnt really fit what we need at WR) and not N'Keal Harry who they have actually had a visit with? I think you should add Harry here or swap him into Browns slot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Don’t you think you should even offer it tho? Okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 As good as Hockenson is, I went with Taylor, that is a great value at 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: @Virgil How is Marquise Brown a poll choice for Bills (doesnt really fit what we need at WR) and not N'Keal Harry who they have actually had a visit with? I think you should add Harry here or swap him into Browns slot. He’s added. I didn’t originally because he’s not projected anywhere near value at 15. 2 minutes ago, billspro said: As good as Hockenson is, I went with Taylor, that is a great value at 15. Agreed. I went with Hock, but think they would go Taylor. Either way, I love the value 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: He’s added. I didn’t originally because he’s not projected anywhere near value at 15. Agreed. I went with Hock, but think they would go Taylor. Either way, I love the value Thats a fair point Virgil, and while Harry is frequently talked about as a first round pick, typically its in that 18-32 range in terms of the first. I just think he would be a more likely pick for the Bills over Marquise Brown just in terms of fit into the current WR room. Honestly, now that you added Harry in (who I am pretty high on myself), I have a hard time choosing Harry over either Simmons or Hockenson. So now I am torn hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Wasn't Jawaan Taylor already drafted by the Jags @ 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, billspro said: As good as Hockenson is, I went with Taylor, that is a great value at 15. I actually think they would go Dillard over Taylor personally. Either is great value at 15, but I suspect Bills have more interest in Dillard. All that being said, some real tough choices here. Hockenson is a great value here, but I suspect Bills are not going to go TE as early as some of us have been thinking. Its a pretty deep class and all the TE prospects they have been linked to or showed interest are 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round guys. Kroft is a good blocker, so they may look to find value later in a deep TE draft full of guys who have some playmaking skills. Simmons is a top 5 talent sitting there...Beane loves value, he will be hard to pass. I am pretty high on Harry, so I think he would get some consideration here if Beane is sold on him. Bills sitting in good situation here. I seriously doubt Josh Jacobs or Marquise Brown have any shot at being selected here by the Bills though, but I get why they are a choice in the poll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: Okay Thank you i get that there’s gonna be like 100 people wondering why this guy isn’t there or that guy. We can’t get a poll with everyone. I just think a trade back option for more picks is reasonable. As as far as Harry, I think a pick in the 1st round may happen. But probably not until the 20s or later. Maybe an early 2nd rounder. It would probably be a reach at this point. AJ Brown probably the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo86 said: Wasn't Jawaan Taylor already drafted by the Jags @ 7? @Virgil Ha, yeah he was...good catch. 18 minutes ago, Virgil said: At this point, we have 2 2nd’s and a 3rd. We only have so many open spots. If anything, we may try trading back up. With a TE there and two quality offensive lineman, staying put seems the choice Agreed. I think there is almost no chance we would trade back a 2nd time in the first. Beane will start using some of the ammo he has to land an additional first rounder now and will look to land a big time prospect at 15 here with some good choices still on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 @Virgil - You see Buffalo86 post that Taylor was taken 7th overall already? You should remove him from the poll, he already has 2 votes but isnt available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I love this excercise because the moral of the story here is that you have to be careful how far you trade down if you do decide to trade down. There are something like 15-18 really good first rounders here and then a who,e bunch of guys who could go from anywhere between 18 and 50. I do think the Bills would consider a corner here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Why are people still picking Jawaan Taylor...hes NOT available, was taken at 7 by jags haha. 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I love this excercise because the moral of the story here is that you have to be careful how far you trade down if you do decide to trade down. There are something like 15-18 really good first rounders here and then a who,e bunch of guys who could go from anywhere between 18 and 50. I do think the Bills would consider a corner here as well. I have a hard time seeing Bills take a corner with the 15th overall pick. We are pretty deep at corner right now and there are some other studs on the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalophil1948 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Hock at 15 is good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Why are people still picking Jawaan Taylor...hes NOT available, was taken at 7 by jags haha. I have a hard time seeing Bills take a corner with the 15th overall pick. We are pretty deep at corner right now and there are some other studs on the board Outside of Hockenson, I don't think there are any studs left here. Maybe Fant or Ferrell. Dillard is going to be terrible imo. I think Murphy, Baker, Greedy, and Rock Ya Sin may all go in that 15-30 range so we aren't that far from value there. My board at this point would be Hock, Murphy, Ferrel. And I don't have a board. Just imaginary in my mind lol. Edited April 23, 2019 by MrEpsYtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: @Virgil Ha, yeah he was...good catch. Agreed. I think there is almost no chance we would trade back a 2nd time in the first. Beane will start using some of the ammo he has to land an additional first rounder now and will look to land a big time prospect at 15 here with some good choices still on the board. That all depends on who’s there and how many spots they move down really. No way to tell unless there’s a sure fire guy they definitely want in that spot and fee may be gone. Possibly just a few picks later. I’m the only one that picked it so I’m the minority here. But if it’s me. With this group right here, I’m moving back and picking up extra picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Trading back to 15 with Tj and Jawaan on the board. Heavenly. Too heavenly to ever happen to the bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Outside of Hockenson, I don't think there are any studs left here. Maybe Fant or Ferrell. Dillard is going to be terrible imo. I think Murphy, Baker, Greedy, and Rock Ya Sin may all go in that 15-30 range so we aren't that far from value there. My board at this point would be Hock, Murphy, Ferrel. And I don't have a board. Just imaginary in my mind lol. I do think more of Dillard than you do, but I think Ferrell, Hockenson, Dillard, and Simmons are all great prospects. I also really am high on Harry too. Personally, I have a feeling in the real draft, Wilkins will be on the board here and he probably would be the pick. But also would not shock me one bit to see them take Harry here. I think WR is going to be an early target of Beane because the WR1 type prospects drop off fast to talented WRs that may be more complimentary, #2 type guys and we already have those. I think Beane wants an Alpha and will find a way to get one in the first or 2nd round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 hours ago, NewEra said: I said he was awful last year and had awful/terrible decision making. Which he was. I never said he’s the worst QB, it he’s not someone I’d like to be MY qb. You’d be happy with him as your QB? If we didnt have Allen, I definitely would. Murray is just an overrated prospect who lacks that it factor. I watched some tape and didnt see anything that says 1st overall. If Rosen was in this draft I believe he would be the first QB off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, mrags said: That all depends on who’s there and how many spots they move down really. No way to tell unless there’s a sure fire guy they definitely want in that spot and fee may be gone. Possibly just a few picks later. I’m the only one that picked it so I’m the minority here. But if it’s me. With this group right here, I’m moving back and picking up extra picks. If someone offered them another 3rd or 2nd to move back just a few spots...sure guess its possible. Just seems more likely Beane will stay put here, plus someone needs to covet a player to trade up with us. Not sure who is on the board that a team feels the need to give up picks thats also close enough to our draft slot to consider another trade back. But hey, Beane loves value, so its always a possibility if the right offer is made of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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