Buffalo_Gal Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, snafu said: Wow Jim Comey. Is he a 15 year old emo girl with these tweets? Yes. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1109934127615225856 https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1109934207499943936 https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1109934270435508224 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1109934127615225856 https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1109934207499943936 https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1109934270435508224 These aren’t a parody? This is the D leadership initial reaction? They should change the strategy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, snafu said: These aren’t a parody? This is the D leadership initial reaction? They should change the strategy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 What does it say about an attorney who doesn't know that the prosecutor's job is not to exonerate? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Illegal in its origin. Illegal in its intent. The intent was not justice or protecting the nation, the intent was always a coup. Mueller concluded that the Russians tried to influence the elections, hacked the DNC, shared hacked info with Wikileaks...and charged many of said Russians. I'd say that was pretty important, wouldn't you agree? Also it's a nice restoration of faith in our intel community, who have been making the same claims since the beginning of all of this, in spite of Trump slamming them so much early on, before he finally agreed that Russia tried to influence the election. In all, this seems like it may be a good report to put this to bed, even as it leaves the stain of obstruction on the president, which thankfully Barr is dropping. Edited March 25, 2019 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, BeginnersMind said: This. For all his faults, no one should want a sitting president to have colluded with a foreign entity to win an election. That's the part that's given. What I was saying is that people are unhappy that he wasn't caught colluding. That's just ***** up. 3 hours ago, Foxx said: Trump calls for a counter investigtion. https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1109921441233977344 https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1109920634874880000 https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1109926758181191681 *****..just...got...real! 3 hours ago, /dev/null said: i call dibs on Kat Timpf Ugh. I like her, but she'd suck the life right out you. 2 hours ago, /dev/null said: "Unamerican Gothic" Edited March 25, 2019 by Doc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Mueller concluded that the Russians tried to influence the elections, hacked the DNC, shared hacked info with Wikileaks...and charged many of said Russians. I'd say that was pretty important, wouldn't you agree? Also it's a nice restoration of faith in our intel community, who have been making the same claims since the beginning of all of this, in spite of Trump slamming them so much early on, before he finally agreed that Russia tried to influence the election. In all, this seems like it may be a good report to put this to bed, even as it leaves the stain of obstruction on the president, which thankfully Barr is dropping. No, it's not all that important in context. Since the days I was instructed to hide under a desk in the event of a missle strike, I've assumed that enemies at home and abroad are looking to hurt the country. The FBI could have released a press report stating "there are Russians trying to screw with our election" and every thinking person in America would have responded "Duh". Using my approach, we would have saved likely $40 m, been done in 20 minutes and not told the 60m+ fine Americans who voted for real hope $ real change that their votes were largely irrelevant & secondary to the desires of Obama, Clinton, Comey & his crew. If anything, this incident is a stain on certain elements of our intelligence community, because not only did the Russsians actually interfere with relative ease, it took 2+ years on noodldicking around to find out that those who thought there was evidence of a conspiracy at he highest levels of our government were either lying through their teeth, or were woefully incompetent. And, to close the loop from my childhood, while history tells us you are wise to be suspicious of those in power, I never would have thought the upper echelon of the DOJ and FBI could be this dirty. That's my bad. Edited March 25, 2019 by leh-nerd skin-erd 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, /dev/null said: Listen to your mother when she is talking to you!!!!! Edited March 25, 2019 by row_33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Mueller concluded that the Russians tried to influence the elections, hacked the DNC, shared hacked info with Wikileaks...and charged many of said Russians. I'd say that was pretty important, wouldn't you agree? Also it's a nice restoration of faith in our intel community, who have been making the same claims since the beginning of all of this, in spite of Trump slamming them so much early on, before he finally agreed that Russia tried to influence the election. In all, this seems like it may be a good report to put this to bed, even as it leaves the stain of obstruction on the president, which thankfully Barr is dropping. Mueller's report could end up stating that Russians hacked the DNC. That's NOT what Barr's summary states though. It states they hacked "Democratic Party organizations." The DNC was NOT the only Democratic group that had e-mails turn up on Wikileaks. Hillary's unsecured server was hacked (probably by every Intelligence service in the world) & Podesta's e-mails were also hacked. Probably others with ties to the DNC as well. And if the Mueller Report does claim the Russians hacked the DNC, would really like to see the supporting documentation as the FBI (or any other government agency) did not actually examine their servers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Awesome and totally unexpected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: One part of my heritage holds the option of “not proven” for a jury’s decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Some countries have a tradition of defenestration for people like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Edited March 25, 2019 by Hedge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Interesting: Edited March 25, 2019 by Hedge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Edited March 25, 2019 by Hedge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 You know what was awesome about Barack Obama? He gave Donald Trump JUST the tool to destroy the people who tried to remove him from office: The IRS. I suggest he use it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 14 hours ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1109934207499943936 They forgot to add, "However, we are in a perfect position to make those objective determinations about the report." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: You know what was awesome about Barack Obama? He gave Donald Trump JUST the tool to destroy the people who tried to remove him from office: The IRS. I suggest he use it. I agree that Obama handed Trump a powerful weapon but cannot disagree more on how to wield it As the target of a weaponized bureaucracy Trump is well positioned to issue an Executive Order requiring increased oversight of FISA warrants and surveillance on American citizens Trump should fix the problem rather than follow the precedent of his failed predecessor 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, /dev/null said: I agree that Obama handed Trump a powerful weapon but cannot disagree more on how to wield it As the target of a weaponized bureaucracy Trump is well positioned to issue an Executive Order requiring increased oversight of FISA warrants and surveillance on American citizens Trump should fix the problem rather than follow the precedent of his failed predecessor How gracious. Also, foolish. Because don't think for a minute the opposition won't abuse whatever power they have to try and continue their resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: How gracious. Also, foolish. Because don't think for a minute the opposition won't abuse whatever power they have to try and continue their resistance. Your shortsightedness cannot be improved upon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: You know what was awesome about Barack Obama? He gave Donald Trump JUST the tool to destroy the people who tried to remove him from office: The IRS. I suggest he use it. 1 I sincerely hope not. Weaponizing the IRS against "political enemies" (ie, everyday people; tea party, conservative groups, etc) should not be done. I thought it was one of the scummier things the Obama Administration did, and that administration did a whole lot of horrible things. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Your shortsightedness cannot be improved upon. The ROT at the center of the unelected, unaccountable bureaucracy must at ANY cost be removed. By any means necessary. These people (Strzock, Comey, et al) attempted to resist the will of the people and cannot be allowed to continue in government service. Ever. Whatever it takes, they must both be removed and rendered incapable of being a threat to our Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: The ROT at the center of the unelected, unaccountable bureaucracy must at ANY cost be removed. By any means necessary. These people (Strzock, Comey, et al) attempted to resist the will of the people and cannot be allowed to continue in government service. Ever. Whatever it takes, they must both be removed and rendered incapable of being a threat to our Republic. You are just proposing replacing one dictator with another. We need to do the hard work of sticking to our laws to correct the malfeasance that has happened. You actually want to fight fire with more fire. You would be a fine warrior during war but would insure that we never had peace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: The ROT at the center of the unelected, unaccountable bureaucracy must at ANY cost be removed. By any means necessary. These people (Strzock, Comey, et al) attempted to resist the will of the people and cannot be allowed to continue in government service. Ever. Whatever it takes, they must both be removed and rendered incapable of being a threat to our Republic. You're suggesting that the rot can be removed by normalizing extra-Constititional behaviors, and enshrining an absolute dictatorship. This is stupid and incredibly short sighted, Joe. If you want to solve the problem you cannot begin by exacerbating it. If you want the rule of law to prevail you cannot begin by breaking the law. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You are just proposing replacing one dictator with another. We need to do the hard work of sticking to our laws to correct the malfeasance that has happened. You actually want to fight fire with more fire. You would be a fine warrior during war but would insure that we never had peace. Maybe if we all hold hands and work together, it'll get better. 5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: You're suggesting that the rot can be removed by normalizing extra-Constititional behaviors, and enshrining an absolute dictatorship. This is stupid and incredibly short sighted, Joe. If you want to solve the problem you cannot begin by exacerbating it. If you want the rule of law to prevail you cannot begin by breaking the law. See my above response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: See my above response. Name all of the dictatorships in the world under which the people live well, and are protected from gross overreaches of their government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Maybe if we all hold hands and work together, it'll get better. Maybe, but I suggest we just follow our laws and see what happens. You'll notice that I responded in a civil manner rather than telling you to go ***** yourself. Which response makes you more amiable to solving the problem at hand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: Name all of the dictatorships in the world under which the people live well, and are protected from gross overreaches of their government. Well, I can think of at least one place where government is more authoritarian than ours and the people live fairly well because of it: Singapore. That's pretty much it, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Well, I can think of at least one place where government is more authoritarian than ours and the people live fairly well because of it: Singapore. That's pretty much it, though. And why is that, Joe? Why don't people enjoy protections from government overreach and generally live well under dictatorships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Pretty sure one of those actually says - "Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretti nasti..." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Well, I can think of at least one place where government is more authoritarian than ours and the people live fairly well because of it: Singapore. That's pretty much it, though. Singapore? You're going to use an anomalous city state as the example to set for a vast multi-racial and multi-cultural country? That's as dumb as morons using Denmark as the shining example of socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: And why is that, Joe? Why don't people enjoy protections from government overreach and generally live well under dictatorships? Because they're dictatorships? You know, you speak awfully highly of the rule of law. And you might be surprised to know that in theory, I agree with you. In a perfect world, where the playing field is actually level, the rule of law is a wonderful thing. I just think you're fooling yourself if you think there aren't hideous double-standards in our current system that render a complete tear-down necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: You know what was awesome about Barack Obama? He gave Donald Trump JUST the tool to destroy the people who tried to remove him from office: The IRS. I suggest he use it. How about rather than that, we let Huber & the others do their job and see how it all plays out? A lot of what was done to set up then candidate Trump (& candidate Sanders & others) was already illegal. Let the process work. And while that's going on, figure out what adjustments need to be made to the laws (if any). Huber has already been working on this for over 1 year. Don't start skirting the law right when things are starting to look up. Would make the good guys just as bad as the bad guys. And the last 2 years would all be for naught. Democracy would be dead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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