SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Lori Loughlin expected to surrender Wednesday to face charges in connection with a sweeping college admissions bribery scandal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: Compared to the guy in office today, yeah they are pretty clean........ Tell that to the women that Bill allegedly raped and groped while Hillary harbored him. Edited March 13, 2019 by Bill from NYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: But Sasha Obama, the Bush Twins and Chelsea Clinton earned their way in, right? At least our president didn't have his kids working for Harvey Weinstein, no? Maybe we can choose not attack the children for things they would not have done themselves as kids. Regardless of party. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Maybe we can choose not attack the children for things they would not have done themselves as kids. Regardless of party. That was my point, and why I mentioned kids from parents of both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 PLEASE create your own political HATE THREAD in the PPP so the rest of us can discuss this like adults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Tell that to the women that Bills allegedly raped and groped while Hillary harbored him. Are we comparing numbers now? The 23 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct: https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12 https://m.mic.com/articles/156669/how-many-women-have-accused-donald-trump-of-rape-or-sexual-assault#.P6Kd6gZ89 Edited March 13, 2019 by PastaJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Yeah, some places and employers may care whether your degree came from an Ivy league school or a community college, some employers may view some degrees from some schools better then others, or a lower GPA at an ivy league school better or equal to a high GPA at a lower school. But the majority dont as long as you got the degree and experience. They always made such a big deal in school that you should get the best grades, and go to a great school, but once your done school, very few employers care about your grades if you graduated from the required program. They dont care if you got a 75% in your final exam or a 90%. For many, it's more the status of saying them or their parents being able to say that they went to a big name school. I dont really get the big deal here, rich parents have done this for decades, but usually they just have to fund a library, or fund part of a new sports field or facility and their kids are accepted in. I am sure it depends on the employer and the industry. When I see a resume from an Ivy League school i just assume they will want more money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: That was my point, and why I mentioned kids from parents of both parties. Insinuating about children of either party for acts when they were children, regardless of party, can easily be left out of all this. It’s unnecessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I guess I’m out of the loop but as someone who does a lot of hiring of recent grads, I don’t give a flying F where someone went to school as long as they have the required degree(s), gpa experience/internships and work ethic. I assume this is more for the parents to show off their kids are going to an elite school because they probably won’t need career placement anyway Its not really that the degree is any different from a place like Harvard rather than Canisius or UB; but its much more the alumni network that you can tap into for the rest of your life that matters most. Of course, it really helps certain industries (like Wall Street, management consulting etc.) more than others. For example: Need a 1st job...hit up the alumni network. Starting a business and need investors....alums. Your kid needs something you cannot provide...an alum can help. The top schools all have active alumni networks with massive coordination and people dedicated to connecting alums. The very top schools even have private clubs with restaurants, bars, workout facilities, meeting rooms etc. in NYC (Yale club, Penn club, Harvard club etc.). So, IMHO...yeah it can help a kid out a lot. I don't blame any of the parents here trying to get their kids plugged into that network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Tell that to the women that Bill allegedly raped and groped while Hillary harbored him. Your right, that's never happened to the always faithful current POTUS....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: But Sasha Obama, the Bush Twins and Chelsea Clinton earned their way in, right? At least our president didn't have his kids working for Harvey Weinstein, no? Every interview I see with one of Trump's kids makes it obvious they're privileged and arrogant trust fund kids too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Your right, that's never happened to the always faithful current POTUS....... this is the guy who grabs them by the kitty whenever he feels like it? and said comments got Billy Bush fired. Yeah yeah I contradicted myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 This thread is getting too political and has degenerated into a bunch of insults and name-calling. Therefore, a gratuitous photo of a woman with big jugs is needed to restore the thread to intelligent conversation. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 FWIW that wasn't not political it was a self confession by (at the time) a self proclaimed billionaire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: This thread is getting too political and has degenerated into a bunch of insults and name-calling. Therefore, a gratuitous photo of a woman with big jugs is needed to restore the thread to intelligent conversation. I think this case speaks volumes about the impact of big money in our system of higher education while also being a sad commentary on the modern day inclination of parents to prioritize a 'win at all costs' mentality over setting an example for their children of acting in an ethical and honest manner. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I think this case speaks volumes about the impact of big money in our system of higher education while also being a sad commentary on the modern day inclination of parents to prioritize a 'win at all costs' mentality over setting an example for their children of acting in an ethical and honest manner. Very sad. I just don’t get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: what was the subject again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I worked at Stanford while Chelsea went there. Undergrad was a joke. At the time you could resign from a class the last week of the semester and it didn't appear on the transcript. If you flunked a class, you could take it over again and the flunk would not appear. It was well known around the campus that Chelsea would get ****faced every weekend at the DKE parties. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Wacka said: I worked at Stanford while Chelsea went there. Undergrad was a joke. At the time you could resign from a class the last week of the semester and it didn't appear on the transcript. If you flunked a class, you could take it over again and the flunk would not appear. It was well known around the campus that Chelsea would get ****faced every weekend at the DKE parties. You’re spewing logical disjunction. It was allowed at Stanford therefore Chelsea did it. She got drunk on weekends therefore she was a bad student. Any proof? And yet Trump took measures to make sure his grades wouldn’t be made public. Sounds like you’re the one who failed logic in math class. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, PastaJoe said: You’re spewing logical disjunction. It was allowed at Stanford therefore Chelsea did it. She got drunk on weekends therefore she was a bad student. Any proof? And yet Trump took measures to make sure his grades wouldn’t be made public. Sounds like you’re the one who failed logic in math class. ? Can't you stop? The poster was just talking about his personal experience Joe. Does even the slightest comment about any of the Clintons disturb you THAT much? I get it, you can't stand our president. No problem, but; do you think that being a fan of the Clinton family is some sort of badge of honor? I mean really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 meh. people using money, fame or power to get what they want. isn't that how it's always worked? i'm not saying it's right at all, but welcome to reality. i even give money to my high school and college now with hopes that it may very slightly help my kids get in if they ever want to. it's a complete drop in the bucket in comparison, (and legal), but i'm just not that interested in this as news. especially the level of coverage it's getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Wacka said: I worked at Stanford while Chelsea went there. Undergrad was a joke. At the time you could resign from a class the last week of the semester and it didn't appear on the transcript. If you flunked a class, you could take it over again and the flunk would not appear. It was well known around the campus that Chelsea would get ****faced every weekend at the DKE parties. who GAF? seriously. Who didn't get F'd up in college? Have you seen the pictures of the Bush girls in college? 1 hour ago, PastaJoe said: You’re spewing logical disjunction. It was allowed at Stanford therefore Chelsea did it. She got drunk on weekends therefore she was a bad student. Any proof? And yet Trump took measures to make sure his grades wouldn’t be made public. Sounds like you’re the one who failed logic in math class. ? I hear those transcripts are well guarded from the public eye Edited March 14, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: who GAF? seriously. Who didn't get F's up in college? u seen the pictures of the Bush girls in college? I agree with you SBF. Kids party at college. The thing I don't understand is the hostility to the poster. Did he declare Chelsea to be a p.o.s.? He really did not. He shared a life experience that I found to be somewhat interesting. I didn't realize how popular the Clintons are. Its almost as if comments about them are taken as an insult to someone's deity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I agree with you SBF. Kids party at college. The thing I don't understand is the hostility to the poster. Did he declare Chelsea to be a p.o.s.? He really did not. He shared a life experience that I found to be somewhat interesting. I didn't realize how popular the Clintons are. Its almost as if comments about them are taken as an insult to someone's deity. Some people can't keep politics out of discussions. To some the Clinton's are the Anti Christ. When it comes to trashing someone based on their parents political affiliation ... Follow this --- He who is w/o sin cast the first stone. Because every one does something or other that will seem shady. No political party is immune. Edited March 14, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Some people can't keep politics out of discussions. To some the Clinton's are the Anti Christ. When it comes to trashing someone based on their parents political affiliation ... Follow this --- He who is w/o sin cast the first stone. Because every one does something or other that will seem shady. No political party is immune. Absolutely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Not sure if this link has been referenced yet, didn't see it, but found this quite ironic that the show that made Aunt Becky famous hit this close to home on the subject... https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/lori-loughlin-s-charges-resurfaces-full-house-school-admission-scheme-n982691 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 6:32 AM, /dev/null said: if that ever happened the clintons would be in their rights to sue stanford. all that money and chelsea is still dumb as a rock Maybe include Web Hubbel in that, he's supposed to be the daddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Sorry I'm late to the party here but have I mentioned recently how much I hate celebrities? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 hours ago, PastaJoe said: You’re spewing logical disjunction. It was allowed at Stanford therefore Chelsea did it. She got drunk on weekends therefore she was a bad student. Any proof? And yet Trump took measures to make sure his grades wouldn’t be made public. Sounds like you’re the one who failed logic in math class. ? Total nonsense. It was NEVER ‘allowed’ at Stanford. Legal age has always been 21 in California. The fact that Chelsea was a teenaged alcoholic seems to have escaped you, just like her dad “never inhaled”. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 12:18 PM, KD in CA said: I think this case speaks volumes about the impact of big money in our system of higher education while also being a sad commentary on the modern day inclination of parents to prioritize a 'win at all costs' mentality over setting an example for their children of acting in an ethical and honest manner. I'm sorry....did you say something?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Don’t know what these star-struck ‘rents are thinking. Does it really matter? Bill Gates And Steve Jobs were both dropouts. . Edited March 14, 2019 by The Senator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I'm sorry....did you say something?? I'm not really sure.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 These cheating/fraud scandals have now reached epic proportions: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/life/article/angler-charged-with-fraud-cheating-bass-tournament-13686311.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 12:40 PM, dpberr said: A confidential informant told investigators that he advised Huffman he could arrange for a third party to correct her daughter's answers on the SAT after she took it. That would be entrapment if an official offered that service, no? But since it's an informant, its gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 8 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Not sure if this link has been referenced yet, didn't see it, but found this quite ironic that the show that made Aunt Becky famous hit this close to home on the subject... https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/lori-loughlin-s-charges-resurfaces-full-house-school-admission-scheme-n982691 Too funny! I have a lot of nostalgia for 90s stuff but never cared for that show then or now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 It's amusing that so many think this case is people bribing colleges to get their children in, and that proves there's no "meritocracy." When it's people paying to have their children's records faked and defraud the schools, because their halfwit kids couldn't succeed in the "meritocracy." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 This has been going on FOREVER! Look at all the campus buildings that are named for "benefactors." Don't forget all the under the table "contributions" to keep kids in school, and out of Viet Nam. This may be on a grander level but, essentially, it's never been news before, just something everyone was aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said: This has been going on FOREVER! Look at all the campus buildings that are named for "benefactors." Don't forget all the under the table "contributions" to keep kids in school, and out of Viet Nam. This may be on a grander level but, essentially, it's never been news before, just something everyone was aware of. I wonder if this would have even been a story if it didnt involve 2 Hollywood families. But because theres people involved that are 'celebrities', it's taking over the media and made out to be a huge deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said: This has been going on FOREVER! Look at all the campus buildings that are named for "benefactors." Don't forget all the under the table "contributions" to keep kids in school, and out of Viet Nam. This may be on a grander level but, essentially, it's never been news before, just something everyone was aware of. No, it's a completely different thing. Giving money to schools so you can get in is permissible. This is paying money to a "service" that defrauds schools with false academic and athletic records. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: No, it's a completely different thing. Giving money to schools so you can get in is permissible. This is paying money to a "service" that defrauds schools with false academic and athletic records. This is the rare case where the media/public reaction is not overstating the scandal. If many people don’t end up in prison over this I’ll be pretty disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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