OldTimer1960 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I like Saffold but isnt this guy much younger? And is a VERY good OG. Is it just me or does this off season have a feel like it could fall out very well for us? We have 10 draft picks....a ton of cap space....most of our players under contract.....franchise QB has been secured. 10 draft picks is a bit deceiving. The Bills have 1 pick in each of the first three (money) rounds. They have an extra pick in round 4 and an extra pick in round 5 and an extra pick later. Really, unless they can parlay the extra 4th and 5th into an extra 3rd, they are not much more than lottery tickets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: 10 draft picks is a bit deceiving. The Bills have 1 pick in each of the first three (money) rounds. They have an extra pick in round 4 and an extra pick in round 5 and an extra pick later. Really, unless they can parlay the extra 4th and 5th into an extra 3rd, they are not much more than lottery tickets. We have been doing pretty well with those lottery picks of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: We have been doing pretty well with those lottery picks of late. Not dismissing those picks, but they are still long-shots to be big contributors. Yes, Milano looks like he could be a long term contributor, but beyond Milano they’ve selected Peterman, Tanner Vallejo, Taron Johnson, Siran Neal, Wyatt Teller, Ray Ray McCloud and Austin Prohel. Johnson could be helpful over the next few years and Teller might become a decent starter, but I don’t think anyone is missing Peterman, Vallejo, McCloud or Prohel Edited March 7, 2019 by OldTimer1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: Not dismissing those picks, but they are still long-shots to be big contributors. Yes, Milano looks like he could be a long term contributor, but beyond Milano they’ve selected Peterman, Tanner Vallejo, Siran Neal, Wyatt Teller, Ray Ray McCloud and Austin Proehl. When you look at it....it looks very similar to the money rounds Milano - Stud Peterman - Dud Vallejo - started for another team Siran Neal - jury is out Wyatt Teller - Starter McCloud - jury is out Proehl - dud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Yes please, and bring in D Williams and Paradis or Morse, a Crabtree/Tate/Lockett and then the draft is BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: When you look at it....it looks very similar to the money rounds Milano - Stud Peterman - Dud Vallejo - started for another team Siran Neal - jury is out Wyatt Teller - Starter McCloud - jury is out Proehl - dud I agree that rounds 2&3 are not certainties, but I think you are being generous with saying McCloud is jury out. I could agree that Neal *might* develop and I don’t expect Vallejo to be a starter for long - I could be wrong, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: I would not consider trading the Bills 2nd round pick for a $12M/year OG. There will be good OL prospects early in round 2 and they will be MUCH cheaper. Now, for sure, a draft pick won’t have the proven NFL track record that Zeitler has. I agree maybe a 5th but that contract brings down his trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) Heck, let's just get crazy. Sign Zeitler, Paradis, Saffold and Williams LOL. Oh and all at the right price while we're dreaming about it. I'd be delirious and so would Shady. Draft WR in the 1st and a RB in the 2nd or 3rd. Please don't wake me up from this dream before the 13th. Edited March 7, 2019 by GreggTX 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 hours ago, wppete said: 3 years left on his deal. 2019 - $10million 2020 - $10million 2021 - $12million No dead cap after this year either. The Bills should be all over this, huge upgrade at a relatively reasonable price. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I would give up a mid rounder for him easily as he is a very good player on a contract that is suddenly reasonable for a top guard BUT it gives me pause as to why the Browns would want to trade a top guard when their cap isn't an issue. Supposedly the Browns want the cap space and to pave the way for their 2nd round guard to take over and use the cap space elsewhere. If his medicals check out I don't see why he wouldn't be a great pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, GreggTX said: Heck, let's just get crazy. Sign Zeitler, Paradis, Saffold and Williams LOL. Oh and all at the right price while we're dreaming about it. I'd be delirious and so would Shady. Draft WR in the 1st and a RB in the 2nd or 3rd. Please don't wake me up from this dream before the 13th. The thing is Buffalo is dangerously close to the league floor in spending now. Why not go after FA OL and then go BPA? it seems very logical. Zeitler or Saffold at G, Paradis or Morse at C, D Williams at OT. Add in a Tate/Crabtree/Stills or Lockett at WR or Jesse Jame/ Uzomah while you are at it? Will still have $ left over and get a good mix of young and older, injury and no injury payers. Then draft BPA. Imagine signing Saffold, Morse, D Williams. Ok on OL for 2 yrs. Don't reach on a weak OL class. Take a Crabtree/ Tate for 2-3 yrs. No need to reach on a WR. If an Ed Oliver falls to 9 you take him. No questions asked. If a Gary, Polite, Ferrell falls move back and draft or take one. If OT Taylor, Little or Ford falls take them or move back. Buffalo is in a very very special place right now. It's very exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, Turk71 said: No dead cap after this year either. The Bills should be all over this, huge upgrade at a relatively reasonable price. Offer them a 5th and hopefully they bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Offer them the 5th (BUF or OAK) and 7th (CAR) extra picks we got from trades. If not the 4th (KC) and 7th (CAR) for him. At worst 4th (KC) and 5th (BUF) after that walk. Zeitler at G is an instant improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 so its possible Dawkins - LT Saffold - LG Morse - C Zeitler - G Williams - T ok worth every pick and penny. Pretty sure McCoy would be thrilled. this is a 2 yr line, have to draft replacements, but.... yeah 2 years.Gives 2 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Offer them the 5th (BUF or OAK) and 7th (CAR) extra picks we got from trades. If not the 4th (KC) and 7th (CAR) for him. At worst 4th (KC) and 5th (BUF) after that walk. Zeitler at G is an instant improvement. The Browns gain no cap space for trading him, so it would be stupid to give him away for a 5th and 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, cle23 said: The Browns gain no cap space for trading him, so it would be stupid to give him away for a 5th and 7th. yet the Browns are potential trade partners. Yet many here said K Mack is not a possibility.... Edited March 7, 2019 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 49 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: yet the Browns are potential trade partners. Yet many here said K Mack is not a possibility.... His name was floated in a trade for Odell Beckham. That's basically it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 11 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Zeitler is way better and younger than Saffold. Third rounder is the sweet part of the draft where guys that were borderline late 1s and 2s can be had. I hate to give Cleveland that juicy of a pick. Agreed. He isn't just better. He is significantly better. 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: When you look at it....it looks very similar to the money rounds Milano - Stud Peterman - Dud Vallejo - started for another team Siran Neal - jury is out Wyatt Teller - Starter McCloud - jury is out Proehl - dud It is Milano and then Neal and Teller jury out. The rest are bad. Peterman historically so. They have found two UDFA starters as well though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 10 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Be still my heart ! Including that particular starting TE earlier or even early , in the draft would be a serious game changer for the Bills Daboll Allen etc. I have mentioned before this is where I would spend my money. adding another steady TE in FA as well. If Browns are parting with him ? Bills need to be in the bidding game I like your enthusiasm in this matter. and it could be accomplished. : ) Go Beane ! Thanks 3/12. I am excited for this off season, not that we will win the SB, but we won’t be 31st in offense. I keep hearing about getting more defensive players, and in a perfect world I understand, but we have to heavily invest in the obvious areas on offense, We can be competitive this year as we had the second best defense and best pass defense. I know losing Kyle will, hurt,but if they are not in the field because we’re running great again, that will chew up clock. 10 hours ago, purple haze said: Morse is 26. Paradis is 29. Thanks Purple. I stand corrected, and heard on the radio 26, but should have checked myself. I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Zeitler and Paradis !! Sign me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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