BillsfanAZ Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Not really. He was god awful against the Patriots in week 16 and the best defensive player on the field in week 17. He was inconsistent all year. I think the only way they move him to another position is if they sign a veteran MLB with the same athletic ability. I dont see the Bills drafting a LB and putting him in the middle to go though the learning curve again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: And? Didnt everyone's whipping boy on here in Tyrod Taylor make the pro bowl two years in a row? oh scottlaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: And? Didnt everyone's whipping boy on here in Tyrod Taylor make the pro bowl two years in a row? As a 2nd or 3rd alternate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Thanks for the stats. Now go watch the tape. Consistently slow to react, and getting dragged for tackles. do you watch a lot of tape scotty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 This thread is way off the track for some reason. Back to Williams, how big of a risk is his health? Will he come all the back to 2017 form? Offering a lot of guaranteed without knowing seems pretty risky to me. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/02/17/panthers-2019-offseason-daryl-williams-matt-kalil-taylor-moton/ This is an article on the Panthers site about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Turk71 said: This thread is way off the track for some reason. Back to Williams, how big of a risk is his health? Will he come all the back to 2017 form? Offering a lot of guaranteed without knowing seems pretty risky to me. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/02/17/panthers-2019-offseason-daryl-williams-matt-kalil-taylor-moton/ This is an article on the Panthers site about that. hey...when scottlaw talks, we all listen. you want to learn something? lean closer to scotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, teef said: hey...when scottlaw talks, we all listen. you want to learn something? lean closer to scotty. You mean, I've been doing this wrong the whole time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I’m expecting he’ll get a deal that is heavily incentivized by games played. Seeing what they did with Spencer Long’s contract is edpect something similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: You mean, I've been doing this wrong the whole time? oh yeah. if someone on the bills seems to be playing well, you're wrong. watch the tape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, teef said: oh yeah. if someone on the bills seems to be playing well, you're wrong. watch the tape. Thank you for straightening me out Teef. I'll try to do better in the future? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Thank you for straightening me out Teef. I'll try to do better in the future? we all needed to learn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 53 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: And? Didnt everyone's whipping boy on here in Tyrod Taylor make the pro bowl two years in a row? This is a joke right? Please tell me this is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Good move, adding a Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 19 hours ago, ngbills said: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/expo/sports/g66l-2019/02/8b9940f9cc2122/2019-nfl-draft-trade-helps-buffalo-bills-land-impact-players-in-7round-mock.html Update Depth on Offense: Looks to be a huge upgrade across the board. QB: Allen, Barkley, Anderson RB: McCoy, Love, Yelden FB: Dimarco WR: Tyrell Williams, Zay Jones. R Foster, D Sills TE: T.J. Hockenson, Jess James, Croom OL: Matt Paradis, Daryl Williams, Dawkins, Chris Lindstrom, Kaleb McGary, Long, Miller/Groy/Teller/Mills/Brandon Fanaika Updated Depth Chart of Defense: Depth across the board. DT: H Phillips, Jeffery Simmons, Lotulelei, J Phillips DE: Murphy, Hughes, Anthony Nelson, Lawson, Yarbrough LB: Milano, Edmunds, Alexander, T Davis, Sione Takitaki, Lacey DB: Hyde, Poyer, White, EJ Gaines, Wallace, Johnson, Bush, Blace Brown, /Andrew Wingard This looks to be a much improved team. Still think we could use an additional WR. But the OL looks much improved and TE position solidified. Love could be a steal at RB. I would consider this an excellent off season. The primary objective is to drastically upgrade the online. Adding Tyrell Williams and drafting Hockenson would definitely give JA more choices. As others have accurately mentioned in different threads, Josh doesn't necessarily need a #1 wr. Just a clean pocket and good reliable 2/3 type guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I think it is imperative that we address the oline. We'll be fighting with a bunch of other teams trying to shore up their oline but if we want to help Josh Allen we NEED to improve our line. We not only need 2 more starting lineman we also need to build up the depth chart with decent backups. Spencer Long was a step in the right direction. Russell Bodine is a quality backup. Wyatt Teller is currently a major work in progress. Last year was an embarrassment. Our WR's weren't very good but our inability to protect the QB long enough was a major factor in their poor play. We have the cap space to fix the oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 43 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Good move, adding a Williams! Can't be the Bills without at least two Williams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Dkollidas said: I’m expecting he’ll get a deal that is heavily incentivized by games played. Seeing what they did with Spencer Long’s contract is edpect something similar That would be the ideal, but I think some needy team will probably take the plunge and offer significant guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Turk71 said: That would be the ideal, but I think some needy team will probably take the plunge and offer significant guaranteed money. We are that needy team. We should be willing to take some risk with this cap space. A 26 year old previous 2nd team all pro coming off a major injury is a risk I think this team can afford to take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Iamkrgr said: We are that needy team. We should be willing to take some risk with this cap space. A 26 year old previous 2nd team all pro coming off a major injury is a risk I think this team can afford to take. I don't disagree. Was merely suggesting an incentive laden deal probably wouldn't get it done. James from the Dolphins is another guy I hope they are looking at. Edited March 7, 2019 by Turk71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I wouldn't mind signing Williams, the team needs an RT and I think he would come at a reasonable cost. Ideally I would sign Williams, trade for Zeitler, and sign one of the better WR's available in free agency. Zeitler would cost about 12 million, Williams I imagine around 10, and a top tier WR about 12. All together that's 34 million on the cap, a number the team can easily afford, esp when you consider that there is probably another 5-10 million of fat on the roster that can be trimmed (Vlad, Ivory, and DiMarco all of whom I consider expendable would save 5 million, Murphy and Bodine could also save another 5 if you found their replacements in free agency.) So entering in with just under 80 million with another 5-10 available if needed I think the team could spend 34 million on those trades and free agency targets to upgrade 2 spots on the O-line and add a WR. Heck I think they could do that and add a tight end and an edge rusher if they wanted and still roll over 30 million or about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I wouldn't mind signing Williams, the team needs an RT and I think he would come at a reasonable cost. Ideally I would sign Williams, trade for Zeitler, and sign one of the better WR's available in free agency. Zeitler would cost about 12 million, Williams I imagine around 10, and a top tier WR about 12. All together that's 34 million on the cap, a number the team can easily afford, esp when you consider that there is probably another 5-10 million of fat on the roster that can be trimmed (Vlad, Ivory, and DiMarco all of whom I consider expendable would save 5 million, Murphy and Bodine could also save another 5 if you found their replacements in free agency.) So entering in with just under 80 million with another 5-10 available if needed I think the team could spend 34 million on those trades and free agency targets to upgrade 2 spots on the O-line and add a WR. Heck I think they could do that and add a tight end and an edge rusher if they wanted and still roll over 30 million or about that. Williams is gonna get a lot more on his contract then what you are anticipating I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, John from Riverside said: Williams is gonna get a lot more on his contract then what you are anticipating I think I can't see him getting above 12 million AAV coming off of a huge injury. But then again whacky things have happened. Even if the Bills gave him 12 million AAV and traded for Zeitler they would still have well over 55 million to player with to sign another WR and fill out another need or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Williams is gonna get a lot more on his contract then what you are anticipating I think 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I can't see him getting above 12 million AAV coming off of a huge injury. But then again whacky things have happened. Even if the Bills gave him 12 million AAV and traded for Zeitler they would still have well over 55 million to player with to sign another WR and fill out another need or two. I think you're both right here. I think Williams will get a higher cap hit than some are expecting based on how good he was prior to his injury, but may get less guaranteed on the deal than the cap number will suggest due to the uncertainty of him going right to free agency off a missed season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Good move, adding a Williams! Maybe it's time to move on from this Williams thing. I mean really how much did we benefit from this. Lol. 1 playoff in 12yrs. Don't get me wrong I respect Kyle and the other Williams that played here but let's not act like these guys are legendary Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: Maybe it's time to move on from this Williams thing. I mean really how much did we benefit from this. Lol. 1 playoff in 12yrs. Don't get me wrong I respect Kyle and the other Williams that played here but let's not act like these guys are legendary Bills. Ummm...Kyle Williams IS a legendary Bill! He will be Wall Of Fame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I got a fever, and the only prescription is More Cowbell Williams! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 11:25 AM, nucci said: Does crossing fingers help? no but dollars does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: Maybe it's time to move on from this Williams thing. I mean really how much did we benefit from this. Lol. 1 playoff in 12yrs. Don't get me wrong I respect Kyle and the other Williams that played here but let's not act like these guys are legendary Bills. Lighten up, Francis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 On 3/7/2019 at 5:07 AM, Buffalo03 said: Yeah, Julio Jones and AJ Green are only top 10 WRs in this league. Screw that Agreed. Time to draft our own Julio, and A.J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, #34fan said: Agreed. Time to draft our own Julio, and A.J. Not happening in this draft class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 On 3/7/2019 at 10:52 AM, Magox said: You don't know what you are talking about! Just because the NFL says he was the best defensive rookie of the month at the end of the season along with 43 tackles, 4 pass break ups and 2 int's in his final 4 games isn't nearly as noteworthy as Scott Law's eagle expert eye analysis. Scott Law does not have a eagle eye; he has a vulture eye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Not even close to an eagle eye. My vision sucks. But what type of eye does McDermott have given his Nate Peterman infatuation the past couple years? ? A ***** eye for the maybe straight guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Not even close to an eagle eye. My vision sucks. But what type of eye does McDermott have given his Nate Peterman infatuation the past couple years? ? IMO his vision got cloudy on potential and should have been evaluating him as a DC on how he would have defended against him as QB. For offense players he needs a good partner doing evaluations and clearly his previous OC was not a good one on this issue. I'd love to see the professional scouting report on P5t5rman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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