Real McClappy Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Get the QB and get a great O-line and then plug away. We don't have the O-line so get it. If we come out of this draft with a so called elite pass rusher and our O-line is dog ass this organization has failed this city. Edited January 27, 2019 by Real McCoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) You have to see things realistically. Most of how good an offence is reflects the QB. You pack a great OL and skill players around Dak Prescott and you get a pretty good offence. Our offence will mostly be as good as Josh Allen. Now, I'm not saying you don't improve the offence. You do. And the defence too. And don't give me the narrative that Goff is good because of the coaching and the skill players around him. Sure, that helped. But he feels that the biggest difference is that he got better. Says he knew early on his second year he was going to be better and that McVay would get the credit but that he knew he had improved a ton and that was the biggest thing. Also says he's thrilled to have McVay and the extra offensive guys they brought in, but that he had simply improved. And he's right. He was a #1 pick for a reason. And Peyton Manning had the same kind of first year as Goff did, pretty bad with flashes of real potential. Peyton improved a ton in his second year and kept doing so. It wasn't the coaching and the skill players, though they did help. And yeah right now offence is predominant. That will change. This is a cyclical league. Attacking the QB will always be a huge part of the puzzle. The Pats are in the Super Bowl not just because of their offence but because their defence held KC's offence almost completely ineffective through the whole first half. Yup, offence is up right now. Defences will adjust and catch up. It the way the league works. Edited January 27, 2019 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: You have to be real. Most of how good an offence is reflects the QB. Ours reflected QB's getting knocked silly till we got one that could bob & weave, and out-run defenders. Will be nice to have an offense that can actually run (with RB's), block, and hold onto TD passes. Edited January 27, 2019 by WideNine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Yup. Our offence needs to get better, as does our defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Yup. Our offence needs to get better, as does our defence. 17 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: You have to see things realistically. Most of how good an offence is reflects the QB. You pack a great OL and skill players around Dak Prescott and you get a pretty good offence. Our offence will mostly be as good as Josh Allen. Now, I'm not saying you don't improve the offence. You do. And the defence too. This is spot on. There are anomalies like Green Bay where they were so atrocious offensively that even an Aaron Rodgers can struggle, but for the most part, the QB makes the offense tick. If you have a franchise QB, all you really need is a decent supporting cast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 bills will take em as they come on either side but for this coming season.....I would use the draft to build the O-line and free agency to build the D-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Just to further simplify this question: If you’re the Chiefs right now, then it’s DEFENSE. If you’re the Bills right now, then it’s OFFENSE. Its subjective to the individual team. You need to address both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 5 hours ago, iinii said: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-nfl-cant-rely-on-defense/ Offense. There easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Draft a pass rushing OLB in the first round, then go all offense. 2 WR,2 TE, and 3 OL. Cut the fullback. Sign a center and guard in free agency. Re-sign Jordan Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Were in desperate need of a pass rusher on defense, maulers on the OL, lucky that the draft is heavy defensively (we can find our pass rusher) and free agency should have some decent OL available... Saffold, Spain, possibly Paradis (doubtful), Williams, Kalil, James, Swanson and more. I think we can fill all those needs in the draft and FA plus add some decent weapons for Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 16 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: How much should we set aside for bribing officials? Free Mighty Taco for life. Might slow them down during the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 The good thing about this team is the defense is already good enough to get it done. We have a lot of young core players who will continue to improve with some good vets sprinkled in at key positions. In our case it's obvious the offense is what needs tending to and mainly the OL. We get 3 good starters on the OL, a true #1 WR, and a good RB then this team is going places. Not saying Shady can't still get it done, but the end is near and we all know it. Both sides of the ball are equally important because they work in tandem with one another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 The answer is BALANCE. Neglecting one in favor of the other will always get you a loser. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) i guess we can now throw the old axiom, 'offense wins games, defense wins championships', out the window now. Edited January 27, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: i guess we can now throw the old axiom, 'offense wins games, defense wins championships', out the window now. Yep, now we can just say the refs win championships 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Honestly? I feel like the success of your team relies on having a few elite players. One of those has to be a QB. Having another on offense helps a lot too, like a WR or RB. Then you need to have a couple elite guys on defense too, like an elite pass rusher, elite MLB, CB, or even Safety (Troy Palamalu type). Having a few elite guys that break the game plans of the opposing team is the key. Guys that MUST be double teamed to deal with, that require extra game planning against.Then you build around those elites on offense and defense. That's my way of saying both, idealy. If you can only have one, it's offense, but it better be like the top 1 or 2 offenses in the league to make up for a bad defense. Most good teams are good, or at least have the potential to be good, on both sides of the ball. I think our potential elites currently on the team are: Josh Allen, Trumaine Edmunds, Tre White, and Lesean McCoy (past his prime). The first three aren't there yet and McCoy is probably not elite anymore. Here's to hoping our new crop develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 The answer is balance. A team needs to have one u it be exceptional and one good supported by an above average ST. My recipe would be: 1. QB who can win in the clutch. Does not need to be best in league but very good. 2. Multiple skill players with speed. You want many threats, not just one who can be neutralized 3. Defense built around pass D - bend but don't break. 4. A kicker who can make a long FG and ensure points go on the board. You can not sustain a team full of stars so target the difference makers and fill in the rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 58 minutes ago, MJS said: Honestly? I feel like the success of your team relies on having a few elite players. One of those has to be a QB. Having another on offense helps a lot too, like a WR or RB. Then you need to have a couple elite guys on defense too, like an elite pass rusher, elite MLB, CB, or even Safety (Troy Palamalu type). Having a few elite guys that break the game plans of the opposing team is the key. Guys that MUST be double teamed to deal with, that require extra game planning against.Then you build around those elites on offense and defense. That's my way of saying both, idealy. If you can only have one, it's offense, but it better be like the top 1 or 2 offenses in the league to make up for a bad defense. Most good teams are good, or at least have the potential to be good, on both sides of the ball. I think our potential elites currently on the team are: Josh Allen, Trumaine Edmunds, Tre White, and Lesean McCoy (past his prime). The first three aren't there yet and McCoy is probably not elite anymore. Here's to hoping our new crop develops. I really like this post. I agree that it's critical to have a handful of special players that can change the game for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 18 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: They have said this every year for almost 2 decades. Greatest Show on Turf in St Louis was supposed to be the end to defense. Wasnt true. Never will be true. One season doesn't make a trend. Last year, all final 4 teams were in the top 5 scoring defenses in the NFL. They were ranked #1, #2, #4, and #5. Mahomes: 50 TDs, 5000 yards. Where is he watching the SB from? Same place the Bills are. Why? Because his defense let the team down. Saints and all that offensive fire power couldn't score in OT and then the D didn't stop the Rams in OT. High powered offenses are great, but there is a reason Peyton Manning was "One and Done" an NFL record 9 times in Indy...his defense sucked, while Brady is averaging a SB appearance every other year. Brees has missed the playoffs MORE than he has made the playoffs the last 5 years...why because most the years his defense sucked. Rivers, Ryan, Rodgers, Brees, etc all prolific...most often watching from home come playoff and Super Bowl time. The answer is you need some sort of balance. Brady threw for 500 yards in the SB last year and lost. Offense is great, but you better be able to get some stops too. That being said: Our defense is set nicely...so for us, its time to go mostly OFFENSE. Just like KC will be going mostly DEFENSE this offseason. Its all case specific. Most important position is the QB, once that is set you need to have a good offense, but you are asking for trouble if you ignore the defense. nice job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 17 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Yep. It's not about abandoning defense. It's about abandoning the idea that you're gonna get stops on every possession. To beat the top teams, you need to rush the passer and have corners/safeties/LB's who can cover. Can't get GASHED in the run game, but it's less of a priority. Modern defense is all about sacks, TFL's, and turnovers. To summarize: Good defense is critical for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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