UB’s Tyree Jackson has declared for the NFL draft

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Exactly. I said I would’ve drafted him as a SR out of HS because mentally he was way ahead of everybody 

What makes him special is not how he handles success so much as how he handles mishaps and bad plays. A bad play by him or a teammate has little residual effect on his next play. He is like a battlefield surgeon who has a severely wounded patient die on his table. His response is who's next on the schedule to be opened up? That's a cold blooded trait that you naturally have and can't be taught. It's the same trait that Mafia hit man have. Cold-blooded workers who focus on the task at hand. 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, JohnC said:

What makes him special is not how he handles success so much as how he handles mishaps and bad plays. A bad play by him or a teammate has little residual effect on his next play. He is like a battlefield surgeon who has a severely wounded patient die on his table. His response is who's next on the schedule to be opened up? That's a cold blooded trait that you naturally have and can't be taught. It's the same trait that Mafia hit man have. Cold-blooded workers who focus on the task at hand. 

You don’t need to tell me. I was #1 on the wagon

[Formerly Allan in MD]

A mistake.  Stats tell little of the true story.

[PromoTheRobot]

12 hours ago, Steve O said:

The Bills might give him a look as an UDFA simply because his skill-set is similar to Josh's, albeit even more raw. BIg, strong arm, mobile. Overall I don't see this as a good move on his part but will probably end up on someone's practice squad.

 

Not a prayer. Don't forget UB trains at the Bills fieldhouse, so scouts can just walk down the hall to check out players. You want a dark horse low round/UDFA candidate, look at Gus Ragland at Miami OH. 

Edited January 8, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[Mr. WEO]

21 hours ago, bbb said:

 

Here's Brad Riter:

 

 

 

lol...wtf??  Is "Brad Riter" in the UB band or something?

[Ol Dirty B]

22 hours ago, bbb said:

 

Here's Brad Riter:

 

 

Brad Riter is a ***** head.

[bbb]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

lol...wtf??  Is "Brad Riter" in the UB band or something?

 

Close enough.  He's on the radio broadcast and I think he is the PA announcer for the basketball games. 

[PromoTheRobot]

7 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Brad Riter is a ***** head.

 

Brad isn't exactly unbiased here. He works on the school's broadcast team. Tyree, at his best, is a great prospect. But he took so many steps back this year at UB. Someone will probably draft him.

Edited January 8, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[YoloinOhio]

 

[PromoTheRobot]

https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/12/tyree-jackson-ub-quarterback-2019-nfl-draft-senior-bowl/

[row_33]

On 1/7/2019 at 8:03 PM, Formerly Allan in MD said:

A mistake.  Stats tell little of the true story.

 

Somewhere between little and everything 

 

depends on why you want to glean info from them 

 

 

[BringBackOrton]

On 1/7/2019 at 10:55 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

But you are already seeing the varying opinions. Someone has him in the 1st and someone else has him undrafted. He doesn’t need 32 teams to believe in him. He needs 1. Toolsy prospects ALWAYS get pushed up because of that. His ceiling his high and his floor is really low. 

 

FWIW, I don’t like him as a pro prospect. I’m not saying what I would do. I’m saying what I think will happen. I’m thinking between 90-150. 

Reminds me a lot of Cardale Jones, in terms of fluidity of draft status. 

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

Reminds me a lot of Cardale Jones, in terms of fluidity of draft status. 

Yep, that is the perfect comparison IMO. Tyree has a longer track record of success while Cardale had it at the biggest moments. Similar prospects

[BADOLBILZ]

9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Yep, that is the perfect comparison IMO. Tyree has a longer track record of success while Cardale had it at the biggest moments. Similar prospects

 

 

OK.......but whereas Cardale was constantly working every excuse possible to go back to C-Bus to hang out with his college teammates(and throw em kickass draft parties) rather than stay in Buffalo and work at his QB craft...........Tyree can do that AND stay in Buffalo.  

[#34fan]

I thought he looked much better than advertised today...  More fluid than I anticipated.

 

Could be worth risking a 4th or 5th....  Phish... Bengals... Bucs... Even the Lions...  Teams with nothing to lose either way.

[The Senator]

Tyree has the one QB asset that cannot be taught - 6 feet 7 inches tall!

 

i agree with the pundits who say he would benefit greatly by playing out his senior year, but I also can’t blame him for trying his luck in the draft, rather than risking a devastating injury while still in college.  Remember what happened to Willis McGahee in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl?  Tore his ACL, PCL, and MCL, dropped from a certain top 5 pick to #23, and sat out the entire 2003 season to undergo several surgeries and rehabilitation.  Jeez, I don’t know why these NFL-bound guys even risk playing bowl games.

 

That said, I would love to see the Bills sign Jackson as a UDFA.  Maybe he could be our 3rd QB, or find a spot on the practice squad.

 

JMO

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Edited January 27, 2019 by The Senator

[C.Biscuit97]

11 hours ago, #34fan said:

I thought he looked much better than advertised today...  More fluid than I anticipated.

 

Could be worth risking a 4th or 5th....  Phish... Bengals... Bucs... Even the Lions...  Teams with nothing to lose either way.

It’s weird the hate he has gotten.  He is a nfl qb.  Now, I don’t know how good he will be or how long he will last, but he has possibly the best arm in this draft.  He is exactly the type of qb you draft in later rounds and try to develop. 

 

He would make a ton of sense here.

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s weird the hate he has gotten.  He is a nfl qb.  Now, I don’t know how good he will be or how long he will last, but he has possibly the best arm in this draft.  He is exactly the type of qb you draft in later rounds and try to develop. 

 

He would make a ton of sense here.

 

Except we are entrenched with 3 QBs who will be better than TJ next season... he will automatically be 4th on the DC

 

we aren’t keeping 4 and that leaves PS... he would be scooped if we left him him.

 

they like Anderson and Barkley. I see TJ as a 5th rounder but not in Buffalo... perhaps a reunion to Michigan with the Detroit Lions

[TigerJ]

I wouldn't totally rule out Buffalo signing TJ as a UDFA and keeping him on the PS, but I don't expect it either.  He is more likely to get drafted late by another team.  There's no reaso for Buffalo to go chasing after a QB in the draft when they have their QB threesome set for next season.

[C.Biscuit97]

40 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Except we are entrenched with 3 QBs who will be better than TJ next season... he will automatically be 4th on the DC

 

we aren’t keeping 4 and that leaves PS... he would be scooped if we left him him.

 

they like Anderson and Barkley. I see TJ as a 5th rounder but not in Buffalo... perhaps a reunion to Michigan with the Detroit Lions

Eh, you can pick guys up like Barkley and Anderson every year.  We just did it this year. Dime a dozen journeyman backups are so easy to find.  I believe your qb roster should consist of your starter, the veteran non threatening backup, and developmental guys.

 

smart teams don’t not get a good prospect because they have a Barkley or Anderson.

[Buffalo716]

25 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Eh, you can pick guys up like Barkley and Anderson every year.  We just did it this year. Dime a dozen journeyman backups are so easy to find.  I believe your qb roster should consist of your starter, the veteran non threatening backup, and developmental guys.

 

smart teams don’t not get a good prospect because they have a Barkley or Anderson.

What is your definition of a good prospect? He isn’t a special QB prospect . He is tall with a strong arm and good athleticism ... he isn’t Josh Allen. I have a mid 5th grade on him 

 

he is a developmental prospect 

 

I am the biggest UB homer you will ever find... and Have seen every snap of his career... but I don’t think he has a chance to ever be a NFL starter 

 

Anderson is in a mentor role, and he won’t outplay him or Barkley. We have already seen we can get down to #3 and next year TJ won’t outplay either 

 

chances are he doesn't last a decade like Anderson 

 

7th round I’m cool.. round 5 we can get a good RB prospect or a DB , LB with some upside 

 

i just don’t see him beating out any of our QBs

Edited January 27, 2019 by Buffalo716

[PromoTheRobot]

40 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

What is your definition of a good prospect? He isn’t a special QB prospect . He is tall with a strong arm and good athleticism ... he isn’t Josh Allen. I have a mid 5th grade on him 

 

I am the biggest UB homer you will ever find... and Have seen every snap of his career... but I don’t think he has a chance to ever be a NFL starter 

 

Anderson is in a mentor role, and he won’t outplay him or Barkley. We have already seen we can get down to #3 and next year TJ won’t outplay either 

 

chances are he doesn't last a decade like Anderson 

 

7th round I’m cool.. round 5 we can get a good RB prospect or a DB , LB with some upside 

 

i just don’t see him beating out any of our QBs 

 

Same here, being a UB homer, watching every snap. I wouldn't say no chance but I doubt he has much chance to become an NFL starter. Jackson's play is boom-or-bust. When he's on he's amazing. When he's off he's a tire fire.

Edited January 27, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Same here, being a UB homer, watching every snap. I went say no chance but I doubt he has much chance to become an NFL starter. Jackson's play is boom-or-bust. When he's on he's amazing. When he's off he's a tire fire.

No chance is harsh but I know you understand my point PTR 

[C.Biscuit97]

22 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

What is your definition of a good prospect? He isn’t a special QB prospect . He is tall with a strong arm and good athleticism ... he isn’t Josh Allen. I have a mid 5th grade on him 

 

he is a developmental prospect 

 

I am the biggest UB homer you will ever find... and Have seen every snap of his career... but I don’t think he has a chance to ever be a NFL starter 

 

Anderson is in a mentor role, and he won’t outplay him or Barkley. We have already seen we can get down to #3 and next year TJ won’t outplay either 

 

chances are he doesn't last a decade like Anderson 

 

7th round I’m cool.. round 5 we can get a good RB prospect or a DB , LB with some upside 

 

i just don’t see him beating out any of our QBs

For some reason, you seem to not like Jackson.  I think all UB fans will appreciate him more when the program takes a step back the next couple of years. 

 

He isnt a day 1 starter but is a perfect developmental prospect.  He has the best arm in the draft, is huge, and mobile.  He has some really nice touches passes as well.  He has plenty to work on but he seems like a guy who could sit behind an established starter and maybe turn into something.  Or maybe he won’t.  But it’s weird that the best qb I ever remember UB having isn’t more popular on this board.  

21 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Same here, being a UB homer, watching every snap. I wouldn't say no chance but I doubt he has much chance to become an NFL starter. Jackson's play is boom-or-bust. When he's on he's amazing. When he's off he's a tire fire.

I mean, that’s almost every below 1st round prospect.  I’ve just seen the guy make some of the best throws I’ve seen from any Buffalo qb, on any level, make.  But he has a lot of work to do.

[Buffalo716]

31 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

For some reason, you seem to not like Jackson.  I think all UB fans will appreciate him more when the program takes a step back the next couple of years. 

 

He isnt a day 1 starter but is a perfect developmental prospect.  He has the best arm in the draft, is huge, and mobile.  He has some really nice touches passes as well.  He has plenty to work on but he seems like a guy who could sit behind an established starter and maybe turn into something.  Or maybe he won’t.  But it’s weird that the best qb I ever remember UB having isn’t more popular on this board.  

I mean, that’s almost every below 1st round prospect.  I’ve just seen the guy make some of the best throws I’ve seen from any Buffalo qb, on any level, make.  But he has a lot of work to do.

I don’t dislike Jackson at all . He was great for the program and I appreciate everything he did ...

 

and UB isn’t going to take a big step back... they are loaded and actually lost some games because Jackson played bad... they should compete for the mac east again

 

i also have been scouting QBs for 25 plus years and have a bead on what makes a successful NFL QB... he just doesn’t cross off enough boxes

 

I appreciate everything TJ Did for UB... was probably the first one on his train 4+ years ago ... but I’m not going to sugar coat a prospect because I Iove his school 

 

TJ was outplayed by backup drew Anderson last year. Regressed as the year went on this year... has a really long release and had bad lapses of judgment...

 

trust me, I love TJ and wish him the best... I’m super excited he will become the first UB QB to be drafted and I wish him well...

 

i just dont see a long career... he needed another year at school 

[row_33]

another year of school would have helped, sometimes they are just determined to leave

 

and sometimes they “have to go”.

 

Ernest Shazor was the biggest loss of a senior year and flop in the pros for my years of taking it all seriously.

 

The sound of Shazor and Marlin Jackson cracking helmets at Ann Arbor stills rings out years later.

[The Senator]

 

I’m guessing New England will take him, and earlier than anyone thinks.  They need to start grooming Brady’s eventual replacement now, and TJ is the perfect project QB.  He looked solid in the Senior Bowl, and has the one asset that cannot be taught - 6 feet 7 inches tall.

 

He’d probably develop faster under a ‘QB Whisperer’ like Kliff Kingsbury, but Arizona already has their project QB in Josh Rosen.

 

OTOH, NE can afford to take the time to develop Jackson, and who could be a better mentor than Brady?

 

I wish Tyree all the best, and hope things turn out well for him.

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Edited January 30, 2019 by The Senator

[zow2]

I think some folks are down on Tyree because the team couldn't get it done in 3 of the final 4 games.  Those were some big games.  He was a great QB for the Bulls but there are definitely some question marks regarding the next level.

It wouldn't surprise me though if Tyree looks better in an NFL camp than he is being projected to look.  For me, it's his accuracy.  If he can tweak that in a positive way, he has a decent shot to actually get on the field in real games.  

[PromoTheRobot]

 

[PromoTheRobot]

 

[eball]

Tyree just doesn't pass the "eye test" for me; slow to process, elongated delivery, questionable accuracy, and I'm not sure about his leadership qualities.  I'm going to be worried if I start hearing Jordan Palmer rave about him.

[bbb]

On 1/7/2019 at 1:24 AM, bbb said:

 

Here's Brad Riter:

 

 

On 1/7/2019 at 1:44 AM, Buffalo716 said:

Well he’s smoking the good stuff.

 

No scout in their right mind has a Day1 grade on this kid. I’m the biggest UB supporter you’ll find but I’m not gonna lie and say he’s a future star

 

He has tons of issues , I wouldn’t take him in the top 100

 

Brad had Tyree going in the first round right up until the first round was over.  

[Boca BIlls]

Slow eyes

[eball]

Ouch, Brad Riter.  That's a big ol' matzo ball you got hangin' out of your mouth right there...