Comebackkid Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: I recognize this but can't remember where. Wasn't it part of a song? George thorogood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Ha! I don’t think he wrote it. Most Blues songs are redone by everyone. Btw, GETOFFMYLAWN!, whippersnapper!? Yes sir, Sir ! I bet Muddy Waters recorded it too : ) 22 minutes ago, Robert James said: This is the process. Keep working, even a the margins, looking for ways to improve. Doing something versus doing nothing. yep. That why i mentioned scouting. next feature is Coaching. As in can Bills coaching staff , develop players. any one. time was , Bill could not. especially qb. But the jury is still out with this new group about developing talent. the next phase might be paying the Man. another area Bills need to get better at. both retaining long term and letting leave when value is lacking. Whaley had good scouts and super poor money management and questionable Coachings 7 minutes ago, Comebackkid said: George thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 54 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If you are trying out potential 3rd string future developmental QBs, why not see what Chad Kelly has? Please no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Yes sir, Sir ! I bet Muddy Waters recorded it too : ) yep. That why i mentioned scouting. next feature is Coaching. As in can Bills coaching staff , develop players. any one. time was , Bill could not. especially qb. But the jury is still out with this new group about developing talent. the next phase might be paying the Man. another area Bills need to get better at. both retaining long term and letting leave when value is lacking. Whaley had good scouts and super poor money management and questionable Coachings and the Delaware Destroyers Yep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Please no You don’t have to worry, these guys would never bother. They would bring in a guy like Tebow before a guy like Baker Mayfield just because he’s not squeaky clean. It’s football, not Tennis. If you don’t have some bad guys, you are going to get your ass handed to you on a regular basis. Maybe if we had a little more nastiness we wouldn’t get blown off the ball on both sides by every physical team. Might actually be able to run again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: WTH with working out all those QB? Anyone have a clue? Because they will have exactly ONE QB on The Roster. Anderson and Barkley are on expiring contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Logic said: The fact that the Bills are working out QBs tells me Anderson is retiring after this season (who can blame him?). Maybe I'm wrong on this but i always assume they bring in QBs for these "workouts" to throw passes to the guys they're actually interested in signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 hours ago, billykay said: you mean like Holmes & Benjamin. How about like Mike Evans? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 5 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Rounding out the list was offensive linebacker Cory James, a former Oakland Raider who played 26 career games in the NFL between the 2016 and 2017 seasons. Notably, he suited up for all 16 contests for the Raiders in 2016. Beane is going rogue...creating a new position: offensive linebacker. Way to think outside the box *****!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I woulda liked for the Bills to have snatched Bo Scarborough off the Jags practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Like all teams, Buffalo is doing due diligence on a bunch of fringe guys, because you never know when someone might surprise bigtime on the upside. Think Isaiah McKenzie and Robert Foster. Bolden is obviously a return specialist. As far as QBs go, it's already b een noted that Buffalo only has one QB on the roster on a multi-year deal. I'm assuming Buffalo will seek to negotiate a multi-year deal at reasonable cost with either Barkley or Derek Anderson (preferably Barkley) but there are no guarantees. If they only re-sign one of them, they will want to pick up one or two more for training camp next summer. Gilbert's dad was a strong armed QB, regardless of the fact he didn't make it in the NFL. I think his kid is supposed to be the same way. It might make some sense to bring in a youngster with a strong arm. If he did develop into a serviceable backup, it might be advantageous to retain the capability of hitting the long ball if Josh were to go down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 This team is loading itself up with young, efficient, and hungry castoffs which no other team wanted. So, we give them a home, sign them, notice their loyalties, and from that we have a youth movement. Kelvin Benjamin basically Krispy Kremed himself out of the league. 15 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Like all teams, Buffalo is doing due diligence on a bunch of fringe guys, because you never know when someone might surprise bigtime on the upside. Think Isaiah McKenzie and Robert Foster. Bolden is obviously a return specialist. As far as QBs go, it's already b een noted that Buffalo only has one QB on the roster on a multi-year deal. I'm assuming Buffalo will seek to negotiate a multi-year deal at reasonable cost with either Barkley or Derek Anderson (preferably Barkley) but there are no guarantees. If they only re-sign one of them, they will want to pick up one or two more for training camp next summer. Gilbert's dad was a strong armed QB, regardless of the fact he didn't make it in the NFL. I think his kid is supposed to be the same way. It might make some sense to bring in a youngster with a strong arm. If he did develop into a serviceable backup, it might be advantageous to retain the capability of hitting the long ball if Josh were to go down. And, to use Barkley as trade bait during the draft. As Anderson will most likely be added to the Coaching staff. 33 minutes ago, TigerJ said: How about like Mike Evans? What else do the Buccaneers have for offense or defense? Other then bloated contracts and only one real star. We are going off of what our salary cap allows us to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: You don’t have to worry, these guys would never bother. They would bring in a guy like Tebow before a guy like Baker Mayfield just because he’s not squeaky clean. It’s football, not Tennis. If you don’t have some bad guys, you are going to get your ass handed to you on a regular basis. Maybe if we had a little more nastiness we wouldn’t get blown off the ball on both sides by every physical team. Might actually be able to run again. I really hate this lazy (and terrible) opinion about this staff - especially as it has been shown to be wrong repeatedly. We have no idea how they felt about Mayfield as he was the #1 pick and the Bills never had a chance to pick him, but considering they seem to like guys that want to play and give it their all - I do not think Mayfield would have been an issue. Rosen on the other hand makes so much more sense now that you see him playing in Arizona and he flashes immaturity and does not seem to be the natural leader and have the natural charisma of Allen. They have picked up and signed a ton of non-squeaky clean guys. Phillips was essentially kicked off Miami for arguments with the coaching staff, we have also picked up guys with suspensions like Murphy and the new kid Bolden along with guys during the off season. Just because what what they are looking for in players does not always match what you are looking for does not mean they only sign goody two shoes players. They do not Mind having players that are nasty or bad ass - see Teller, Phillips, and Incognito - as long as you do not have a me first attitude that permeates your play - see Dareus and Watkins. It is not the squeaky image, but team first play and thoughts that matter. This squeaky clean image garbage is just as bad as the take that they would cut people because they are not religious enough or that was the reason a guy like Peterman made the roster. It also is nearly as bad as the opinion that this front office only picks up former Carolina players - when it has been patently proven that on the current Bills roster there are now only 2 former Carolina players and one - Anderson - has not been active and is only here in a mentor role right now, but people still say - well they only pick guys up if they have been on Carolina’s roster. Edited December 19, 2018 by Rochesterfan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, Rochesterfan said: I really hate this lazy (and terrible) opinion about this staff - especially as it has been shown to be wrong repeatedly. We have no idea how they felt about Mayfield as he was the #1 pick and the Bills never had a chance to pick him, but considering they seem to like guys that want to play and give it their all - I do not think Mayfield would have been an issue. Rosen on the other hand makes so much more sense now that you see him playing in Arizona and he flashes immaturity and does not seem to be the natural leader and have the natural charisma of Allen. They have picked up and signed a ton of non-squeaky clean guys. Phillips was essentially kicked off Miami for arguments with the coaching staff, we have also picked up guys with suspensions like Murphy and the new kid Bolden along with guys during the off season. Just because what what they are looking for in players does not always match what you are looking for does not mean they only sign goody two shoes players. They do not Mind having players that are nasty or bad ass - see Teller, Phillips, and Incognito - as long as you do not have a me first attitude that permeates your play - see Dareus and Watkins. It is not the squeaky image, but team first play and thoughts that matter. This squeaky clean image garbage is just as bad as the take that they would cut people because they are not religious enough or that was the reason a guy like Peterman made the roster. It also is nearly as bad as the opinion that this front office only picks up former Carolina players - when it has been patently proven that on the current Bills roster there are now only 2 former Carolina players and one - Anderson - has not been active and is only here in a mentor role right now, but people still say - while they only pick guys up if they have been on Carolina’s roster. I mean, it hasn’t been proven wrong at any point. It’s just what has happened. Any time Mcd speaks he preaches this process and character. Anyone that has rocked the boat or doesnt fit into what they want behavior-wise is gone. Dareus, Sammy, Incognito. It’s pretty clear the coach wants high character players. I don’t think that’s ever been hidden. I’m not even saying it’s the wrong approach. They just won’t bring in Chad Kelly. Even if he was very good. They wouldn’t do it. Sorry that it bothers you. Josh Gordon is excellent and has been a constant headache. If he was available and could help us, we would never bring him in. It just wouldn’t happen. That’s not what this front office is about. It’s all about good soldiers and going along with this “process” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Swoope is interesting but I really would like us to find an actual real tight end somewhere, not an H back, or converted reciever, basketball player, quarterback. Woodside and Bo Levi Mitchell are relatively interesting guys as #3 guys for next year. Both are on the small side, but kind of interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If you are trying out potential 3rd string future developmental QBs, why not see what Chad Kelly has? Besides a record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I mean, it hasn’t been proven wrong at any point. It’s just what has happened. Any time Mcd speaks he preaches this process and character. Anyone that has rocked the boat or doesnt fit into what they want behavior-wise is gone. Dareus, Sammy, Incognito. It’s pretty clear the coach wants high character players. I don’t think that’s ever been hidden. I’m not even saying it’s the wrong approach. They just won’t bring in Chad Kelly. Even if he was very good. They wouldn’t do it. Sorry that it bothers you. Josh Gordon is excellent and has been a constant headache. If he was available and could help us, we would never bring him in. It just wouldn’t happen. That’s not what this front office is about. It’s all about good soldiers and going along with this “process” I don’t disagree they won’t bring either of those guys in, but I don’t think it is about them not being squeaky clean. It is that those players have shown themselves to be more concerned about “me” rather than “we”. The issue is exactly how good can they be? Many coaches call it different things, but have the same idea - team first and you are one of eleven. Frank Reich in Indy after this game talked about the importance of team and these guys really buying into playing for each other - same idea. Belichek In NE brings in a bunch of these guys, but they are forced to adjust or he moves on from them - even if they are talented. Just listen to the Gronk interviews from last season about why he could not celebrate TDs - the coach forbade individual celebrations. The biggest issue I had is you somehow lump Mayfield in for some reason when we have no idea what the staff really thought of him - with the assumption that because he is not squeaky clean - this staff would not touch him. I think they would look at his leadership and how he plays for his teammates and they would of had no issue with him, but it is only an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Bringing in Bo is smart. We've had success with Grey Cup winners in the past. Doug Flutie Marv Levy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 hours ago, the skycap said: Hope Bolden gets to wear #6 He will retire before the end of the week to save frogs in the rainforest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If you are trying out potential 3rd string future developmental QBs, why not see what Chad Kelly has? ....we already know.......issues.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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