Reuben Foster has been claimed by Redskins; girlfriend says she was lying when recanted claims from Feb. incident

[BringBackOrton]

7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s phoniness of it and hypocritical nature of it.  Some people get more upset about a protest than they ever did about domestic violence.  Some people tout family values while their teenage daughter is getting knocked up and their son beats up their dad.  

 

Im far from perfect but I would never tolerate a man who hits a women or child or justify them being on a team I like.  And I most certainly wouldn’t get more mad about CK or dudes protesting than I would about Foster and Mixon.  

 

I do think McDermott goes a bit overboard with the character stuff but I’d like to think we would never entertain bringing trash like this to the Bills.

Are you 12?  That sucky qb is better than your hero Kyle (slide coward) and has a fair superior career than any qb on the Bills roster.  

 

And i I started a thread about Mixon in college and how he was a trash human being.  But keep defending women beaters.  You are a true patriot and hero!!! 

So what, this is the second time you’ve psoted about Mixon since he beat a girl on video 2 years ago? How many times have you posted about Colin Kaerpenick in the last 2 years? Conservatively, 200 times?

 

You're proving how much you care about women bro! Colin Kaepernick needs your activism everyday. Not that girl who got socked by a 200 pound dude. Proud of you.

Edited November 28, 2018 by BringBackOrton

[keepthefaith]

3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s phoniness of it and hypocritical nature of it.  Some people get more upset about a protest than they ever did about domestic violence.  Some people tout family values while their teenage daughter is getting knocked up and their son beats up their dad.  

 

Im far from perfect but I would never tolerate a man who hits a women or child or justify them being on a team I like.  And I most certainly wouldn’t get more mad about CK or dudes protesting than I would about Foster and Mixon.  

 

I do think McDermott goes a bit overboard with the character stuff but I’d like to think we would never entertain bringing trash like this to the Bills.

 

As an employer, I've hired 6 individuals over the past 10 years or so with criminal records including some serious felonies. Some of which spent years in jail.   4 of 6 turned out bad but 2 have turned out very well.  I would NEVER hire a person who planned to use our marketing and public exposure to further a cause that would be poorly received by many of our customers.  Never, Never, Never!!!  Few employers would. 

[Dadonkadonk]

1. Native Americans

2. Women

3. Who do they alienate next?

 

[Spiderweb]

4 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Right or wrong, people still see things like domestic violence as a private matter; "it's none of my business"

 

But people take it personally when someone (especially privileged, pampered athletes) are shitting on the country, flag, etc.

That's not what KD did, but then you will just keep telling yourself that so there's little chance of a unbiased discussion on this topic. 

[JoPar_v2]

3 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

I didn't state that either of them bothered me, I just pointed out the way many people react to the two situations.  But people who may be offended by someone disrespecting the anthem are very low on the list of problems with the country.

 

One could even say those people and their “priorities” should be shuffled to the bottom of the deck.

2 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

 

As an employer, I've hired 6 individuals over the past 10 years or so with criminal records including some serious felonies. Some of which spent years in jail.   4 of 6 turned out bad but 2 have turned out very well.  I would NEVER hire a person who planned to use our marketing and public exposure to further a cause that would be poorly received by many of our customers.  Never, Never, Never!!!  Few employers would. 

That’s very good, very fine unverifiable anecdotal evidence you’ve given us right there. That is for sure. Thanks!

 

oh by the way, are you an employer as big as Nike? Because they don’t seem to mind.

Edited November 28, 2018 by JoPar_v2

[keepthefaith]

8 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

One could even say those people and their “priorities” should be shuffled to the bottom of the deck.

That’s very good, very fine unverifiable anecdotal evidence you’ve given us right there. That is for sure. Thanks!

 

oh by the way, are you an employer as big as Nike? Because they don’t seem to mind.

 

Take my post to the bank and count Nike among the "few".  While we're at it, check out Nike's stock price since signing CK.  September 4th I believe was the announcement date.   Think Nike Shareholders are happy?  Colin's had the same affect there as he did with the NFL.  He's a convenient scapegoat at the very least, not good for business. 

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NKE/

[GG]

13 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I agree with Biscuit, its disgusting travesty that this guy and others get chances while Colin doesn't because he did a peaceful protest to stand up for those whose civil rights were being violated.  I mean dog killer Vick was even taken back...Donte Stallworth killed a person while driving under the influence...was taken right back.  

 

 

I wish people would stop bringing up Stallworth's case in these arguments.  His situation was a tragedy where the victim was probably more responsible for the incident.  There's a good chance he would have struck the guy even if he didn't drink the night before.  

[IDBillzFan]

11 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

This stupid narrative again.  Just be honest and say you don’t like CK’s politics instead of just making up things.  He had a 16 td to 4 int ratio, a 90 qb rating, nearly 500 yards rushing on a team where Jeremy Kerley was their best receiver.  People are anointing Josh Allen as a franchise savior with a 63 QBs rating.  Imagine if Josh Allen had CK’s terrible td to int ratio of 4 to 1?  We would have him making the hall of fame.

 

You can call it a stupid narrative all you want, but it doesn't jive with reality. Read again what I wrote about Vick above. Now ask yourself why Kap doesn't have a job? You think if an NFL team believed he was a winner, he wouldn't be on a team? Because if you do, you've spanked the stupid narrative right on the ass. NFL teams don't care about his politics any more than they care about Vick hanging dogs from trees. 

 

Kap has two problems, and they are both on him: (1) he's suing the NFL and (2) he doesn't want to be a back up. End of story. If he were good enough to warrant the money and be handed a starting position, neither of those would matter any more than the image of Michael Vick holding a dog's head in a buck of water.

 

I'm sure the board is tired of this topic, and there is nothing you or I can contribute to move the discussion. We disagree on the topic, so let's not waste the board's bandwidth. But every time a team claims a dude like Foster, a Kap fan loses their wings and a day will come when this makes sense to all the Kap fans.

[Bill from NYC]

16 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Hahaha.  He threw 16 tds and 4 ints his last year.  We have a celebration when Allen completes a pass.  

 

But you’re right. It’s all about talent and nothing else.  It’s why Barkley, Weeden, Savage, Jones, and nine million scrubs are getting signed before Kaepernick.  It’s all about winning!

 

face it.  The nfl is a scumbag league that takes BS morale stances.  They are fine with drafting guys who beat women multiple times; punch a pregnant girlfriend; or knock a women out on video.  Owners can do so because fans can less about this than a dude who silently protested.  Fans need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask why they get more upset about Kaepernick than Foster, Mixon, or Hill.  If you have women in life and get more upset about Kaep than those guys, what message are you saying?

Before I say anything, let me make 100% clear that I am a huge, life long Alabama Fan.

 

Were it up to me, Foster would NOT play on the Bills. Imo, he doesn't deserve it. I also would not want Kaepernick on the Bills. In fact, I would boo him at a game. You can hate me, my opinion or both. That's up to you but I have a right to an opinion. Can we agree on that?

 

Now, as far as the Redskins, let me say the following.....I have seen every play of every game that Reuben appeared in at Alabama. If the kid had his head on straight (which he does not), he would be a superstar. The Skins have some really good players from Bama who no doubt told the GM just how talented Foster is. Go to you tube and type in Reuben Foster/Fournette, and you will see how hard he hits. He can cover, blitz, and stop the run. He is more of a LB than Kaepernick is a qb. This is why he was claimed.

 

I agree with you that signing Foster would cost a team less money and fan support in the long run than signing Kaepernick. As a group, fans probably do despise Kaep more than Reuben, who certainly appears to be a criminal. The owners are there to make a profit. That's just the way it is. Little has changed, but if in fact there is a change, the owners were even more greedy before free agency.

[YoloinOhio]

Tyreek Hill was arrested and plead guilty to DV, he punched his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach repeatedly. His record was expunged I believe? But many ignore that because he’s really talented. Chiefs fans proudly wear his jersey.

 

Is Reuben Foster even that good that he’s worth the headache? 

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Tyreek Hill was arrested and plead guilty to DV, he punched his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach repeatedly. His record was expunged I believe? But many ignore that because he’s really talented. Chiefs fans proudly wear his jersey.

 

Is Reuben Foster even that good that he’s worth the headache? 

 

I had no idea about that story with Tyrek Hill.  Wow...what a POS.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I had no idea about that story with Tyrek Hill.  Wow...what a POS.

Google it, it’s worse than I portrayed. It’s why he got kicked off  Ok State and went in the 5th rd 

Edited November 28, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Google it, it’s worse than I portrayed 

 

Just did...yep it was worse.

[T master]

Seeing as his last girlfriend said she accused him to ruin his career i think it's okay that he got claimed by the skins but they need to wait to put him on the field as the Commish has done in order to avoid a media fiasco ! This guy has had problems with this in the past & usually where there's smoke there's fire !! 

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, GG said:

 

I wish people would stop bringing up Stallworth's case in these arguments.  His situation was a tragedy where the victim was probably more responsible for the incident.  There's a good chance he would have struck the guy even if he didn't drink the night before.  

 

I disagree greatly.  Every time you get behind the wheel while intoxicated you are putting not only your own life at risk, but those around you.  The fact you just said “probably” is enough reason to put responsibility on him.  Reaction reflexes are severely hampered while intoxicated.  The fact the possibility of Stallworth reacting faster was reduced due to his poor choices is a colossal mistake.  Maybe he could have either avoided the contact or at least react in a way that may have resulted in injuries instead of a fatality.

 

Point is, he is a wealthy and high profile athlete.  His ability to party and not drive is over the top easy.  He chose to risk people’s lives by driving himself while under the influence, and during the course of that decision, someone lost their life.  

 

Do I think he should be condemned for life, no, even good people make bad decisions that end up with terrible results.  But to just be glossed over while someone is black balled who was a hero in his community like Kap before the kneeling with all the money and time he dedicated to impacting kids lives positively is a joke.  All Kap ever did was stand up for people whose civil rights are regularly violated.  

 

The NFL has a laundry list of awful, just utterly awful human beings who play long careers, guys who have even had less success than Kap.  But because our lying President decided to focus on it because as he himself put it “Gives his ratings a boost”, now people have turned his peaceful protest into all kinds of things it’s not about.  I mean Trump doesn’t even know the words to Anthem, literally.  He has been villafied while REAL villains suit up every weekend and get chances after chances without a peep from the fans.

 

Whether Stallworth is on that list of examples or not is irrelevant, their are a ton of terrible human beings who are in the list while CK has been shut out.

[GG]

12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I disagree greatly.  Every time you get behind the wheel while intoxicated you are putting not only your own life at risk, but those around you.  The fact you just said “probably” is enough reason to put responsibility on him.  Reaction reflexes are severely hampered while intoxicated.  The fact the possibility of Stallworth reacting faster was reduced due to his poor choices is a colossal mistake.  Maybe he could have either avoided the contact or at least react in a way that may have resulted in injuries instead of a fatality.

 

Point is, he is a wealthy and high profile athlete.  His ability to party and not drive is over the top easy.  He chose to risk people’s lives by driving himself while under the influence, and during the course of that decision, someone lost their life.  

 

Do I think he should be condemned for life, no, even good people make bad decisions that end up with terrible results.  But to just be glossed over while someone is black balled who was a hero in his community like Kap before the kneeling with all the money and time he dedicated to impacting kids lives positively is a joke.  All Kap ever did was stand up for people whose civil rights are regularly violated.  

 

The NFL has a laundry list of awful, just utterly awful human beings who play long careers, guys who have even had less success than Kap.  But because our lying President decided to focus on it because as he himself put it “Gives his ratings a boost”, now people have turned his peaceful protest into all kinds of things it’s not about.  I mean Trump doesn’t even know the words to Anthem, literally.  He has been villafied while REAL villains suit up every weekend and get chances after chances without a peep from the fans.

 

Whether Stallworth is on that list of examples or not is irrelevant, their are a ton of terrible human beings who are in the list while CK has been shut out.

 

This response is proof that you don't know the story and just read the headlines that Stallworth was convicted of manslaughter while DUI.

[IDBillzFan]

1 hour ago, T master said:

Seeing as his last girlfriend said she accused him to ruin his career i think it's okay that he got claimed by the skins but they need to wait to put him on the field as the Commish has done in order to avoid a media fiasco ! This guy has had problems with this in the past & usually where there's smoke there's fire !! 

 

My understanding is that this accusation is from the same girlfriend, though I heard that on the radio and don't recall it in print, so I could be wrong. The sound clip from the coach on Sunday was, essentially, we don't care if he did it or not. We told him what we expected of him and he didn't do it.

 

If it WAS the same girl, my understanding is that she admitted last time that she only did it because she was upset with him breaking up with her. You'd like to think at some point recently, Foster said something like, "Nah, babes, I'm gonna be busy in Tampa. Just stay here and we'll get together when I return after the game."

 

I believe @DC Tom has an algorithm for determining levels of craziness in a woman.

[DC Tom]

8 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

I believe @DC Tom has an algorithm for determining levels of craziness in a woman.

 

At this point, I don't even have an algorithm for determining if someone's a woman.

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

My understanding is that this accusation is from the same girlfriend, though I heard that on the radio and don't recall it in print, so I could be wrong. The sound clip from the coach on Sunday was, essentially, we don't care if he did it or not. We told him what we expected of him and he didn't do it.

 

If it WAS the same girl, my understanding is that she admitted last time that she only did it because she was upset with him breaking up with her. You'd like to think at some point recently, Foster said something like, "Nah, babes, I'm gonna be busy in Tampa. Just stay here and we'll get together when I return after the game."

 

I believe @DC Tom has an algorithm for determining levels of craziness in a woman.

It is the same woman 

[Alphadawg7]

27 minutes ago, GG said:

 

This response is proof that you don't know the story and just read the headlines that Stallworth was convicted of manslaughter while DUI.

 

And I said take him off the list and it doesn’t matter to the original point, so there’s that too.

[GG]

6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

And I said take him off the list and it doesn’t matter to the original point, so there’s that too.

 

It matters because it perpetuates a false narrative based on a headline and not the underlying facts.

[Alphadawg7]

3 minutes ago, GG said:

 

It matters because it perpetuates a false narrative based on a headline and not the underlying facts.

 

Was he driving under the influence?  If yes, then case closed, he made a mistake.  

 

But his case is irrelevant to the original point regardless.  

[GG]

11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Was he driving under the influence?  If yes, then case closed, he made a mistake.  

 

But his case is irrelevant to the original point regardless.  

 

Again, it's fully relevant when the discussion is about a narrative that belies the actual facts. 

[IDBillzFan]

56 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

At this point, I don't even have an algorithm for determining if someone's a woman.

 

Here it is...

 

It appears Foster went into the Danger Zone, which, according to the speaker, are "your strippers, your red heads, anyone named Tiffany and your hairdressers."

 

 

 

[DC Tom]

10 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

Here it is...

 

It appears Foster went into the Danger Zone, which, according to the speaker, are "your strippers, your red heads, anyone named Tiffany and your hairdressers."

 

 

 

 

That's not my algorithm.

[Bill from NYC]

On 11/28/2018 at 11:08 AM, Alphadawg7 said:

 

  All Kap ever did was stand up for people whose civil rights are regularly violated.  

 

The NFL has a laundry list of awful, just utterly awful human beings who play long careers, guys who have even had less success than Kap.  But because our lying President decided to focus on it because as he himself put it “Gives his ratings a boost”, now people have turned his peaceful protest into all kinds of things it’s not about.  I mean Trump doesn’t even know the words to Anthem, literally.  He has been villafied while REAL villains suit up every weekend and get chances after chances without a peep from the fans.

 

Yeah, police shootings are always bad, right? Does he stand up for the people who are shot on a daily basis by criminals in Chicago? Please.

 

[remarks about political figures excised]

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, police shootings are always bad, right? Does he stand up for the people who are shot on a daily basis by criminals in Chicago? Please.

 

As for the remark about President Trump, you must really value honesty in politicians and worship bastions of rectitude, such as the Clintons and Barack Hussein Obama. Good luck with that.

 

 

 

Hahahaha this is one of the worst posts and replies I’ve ever read on any topic ever on this board...ever...and I mean that with 100% sincerity, not to be funny.  Thanks for the chuckle.  

 

Not one word of it is even worth discussing.  

 

But don’t worry, I wont hold this absurd post against you as a poster overall  

[Bill from NYC]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Hahahaha this is one of the worst posts and replies I’ve ever read on any topic ever on this board...ever...and I mean that with 100% sincerity, not to be funny.  Thanks for the chuckle.  

 

Not one word of it is even worth discussing.  

 

But don’t worry, I wont hold this absurd post against you as a poster overall  

Actually, I have held you in high regard as a poster for some time and was actually quite surprised to read such teary eyed, pathetic drivel from you, but; I look forward to talking more about football with you.

[Alphadawg7]

On 11/28/2018 at 6:31 PM, Bill from NYC said:

Actually, I have held you in high regard as a poster for some time and was actually quite surprised to read such teary eyed, pathetic drivel from you, but; I look forward to talking more about football with you.

 

Ditto.  Politics, no.  Football yes

 

PS:  The reason I found your reply so bad was because it’s the same tired excuse of “.... [political convo removed]  Then you down played taking a stand for something unless you somehow take a stand for everything which was just silly.  

 

All good, Go Bills and Cheers!   

[Bill from NYC]

On 11/28/2018 at 6:42 PM, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Ditto.  Politics, no.  Football yes

 

PS:  The reason I found your reply so bad was because it’s the same tired excuse of “....[political convo removed]  Then you down played taking a stand for something unless you somehow take a stand for everything which was just silly.  

 

All good, Go Bills and Cheers!   

I completely disagree with the bolded above but its all cool.

Edited December 6, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan

[JoPar_v2]

On 11/28/2018 at 8:36 AM, keepthefaith said:

 

Take my post to the bank and count Nike among the "few".  While we're at it, check out Nike's stock price since signing CK.  September 4th I believe was the announcement date.   Think Nike Shareholders are happy?  Colin's had the same affect there as he did with the NFL.  He's a convenient scapegoat at the very least, not good for business. 

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NKE/

Lol “not good for business.” Maybe not for the grayhaired set no. But all of them are buying orthotic shoes anyways at this point no?

 

I see u point out the initial stock dip after the Kaep ad (a whole 3.2%!) but didn’t mention the giant revenue boost they got immediately following the initial rollout of the campaign. Whoops! And the tsunami of positive social media exposure the Kaep campaign garnered for Nike. Guess you missed that. But something tells me you miss a lot of things that don’t align with your worldview. Sad! 

 

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

Uh-oh, Skins executive Doug Williams apparently referred to the domestic violence charge against Foster as “small potatoes”. This won’t go well for him.

 

http://dailysnark.com/redskins-senior-executive-says-domestic-violence-is-small-potatoes-while-defending-reuben-foster/?fbclid=IwAR2_yJFJXSFjZOINAbRJcm9mNKtKmAt8pbK1Ujs4jjwpJ7F8NiCOX-jGWT4

Edited November 29, 2018 by buffaloboyinATL

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

10 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Uh-oh, Skins executive Doug Williams apparently referred to the domestic violence charge against Foster as “small potatoes”. This won’t go well for him.

 

http://dailysnark.com/redskins-senior-executive-says-domestic-violence-is-small-potatoes-while-defending-reuben-foster/?fbclid=IwAR2_yJFJXSFjZOINAbRJcm9mNKtKmAt8pbK1Ujs4jjwpJ7F8NiCOX-jGWT4

 

....try and challenge that and see what card comes up.............

[keepthefaith]

On 11/28/2018 at 11:42 PM, JoPar_v2 said:

Lol “not good for business.” Maybe not for the grayhaired set no. But all of them are buying orthotic shoes anyways at this point no?

 

I see u point out the initial stock dip after the Kaep ad (a whole 3.2%!) but didn’t mention the giant revenue boost they got immediately following the initial rollout of the campaign. Whoops! And the tsunami of positive social media exposure the Kaep campaign garnered for Nike. Guess you missed that. But something tells me you miss a lot of things that don’t align with your worldview. Sad! 

 

Just trying to speak your trumpite language. Amidoingitrite?

 

Nike Stock is down about 6% since that date but so is the index.  32 teams determined that Colin was either not needed and/or not good enough and/or a risk to employ due to his on the job protests.  Point was a couple posts ago that very few employers will hire anyone that use their platform as an employee to wage a social protest while on the job.  It's not good for business with few exceptions.  In fact, many employment agreements restrict it directly or indirectly. There's a reason for that.  It's bad for business.  No athlete (or fan of an athlete) should expect that they can protest something unrelated to their job while on the job without that effecting their employment.  People do not have a constitutional right to free speech while on the job. 

 

As for Foster, I'm simply drawing a contrast between the two.  One screwed up, will likely be penalized and if they commit to better behavior will get another chance.  The other screwed up and won't commit to better on the job behavior and sued all of his potential employers.  Chances are he won't be given a chance until he commits otherwise.  

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

58 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

And this, in a nutshell, is why people who try to work with domestic abuse victims have such a challenge. 

Victim recants for (reason) [love him, don't want to ruin his career, afraid he'll do worse when he gets out, he said he was sorry and promised he'd change]

Abuse recurs.  Victim admits recantation was a lie in the face of new abuse. 

For the NFL, add in the possibility of $$$ to the victim to make them go away a la Hardy.

 

Prosecutors hate it because now you have a crime with a victim who has zero credibility.

Police hate DV calls because anything can and does happen, including the victim doing a "flip" and going after the cops who are "taking my man away"

Counselors and other professionals who work with these cases need the Patience of Job and more.

 

I am sick to death of the NFL pretending to care about this stuff. 

Either formulate a clear and consistent policy then follow it consistently, or STFU about it because the "zero tolerance" policy clearly isn't - it's influenced by all sorts of factors including whether or not TMZ has video the NFL in theory could have obtained, but didn't try to.

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 11/28/2018 at 9:22 AM, YoloinOhio said:

Tyreek Hill was arrested and plead guilty to DV, he punched his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach repeatedly. His record was expunged I believe? But many ignore that because he’s really talented. Chiefs fans proudly wear his jersey.

 

Is Reuben Foster even that good that he’s worth the headache? 

 

I could be mistaken but I believe if Hill had done what he did in the NFL, he'd be gone.

 

Hill pled guilty to felony charges of domestic assault and battery in 2014, two years before he was drafted.  He received a three-year deferred sentence with probation, along with requirements for a domestic-abuse evaluation, an anger management court and a year-long batterer’s program.  He was kicked off the team at OSU.  It was a first offense.

 

Essentially, he served well more than the equivalent of the NFL's 6 game suspension.  I don't know anything about his record being expunged, I doubt it.

 

He completed his required programs, played for a DII school, and fell to the 3rd day of the draft.  He has apparently stayed out of trouble since.

 

So here's the thing.  Do people deserve second chances and rehabilitation, or don't they?

 

Because when people bring up what Hill did and people "ignoring it", they don't tend to bring up all the consequences he had and the rehab he completed.

 

But it goes to what I said above.  The NFL needs to formulate a clear and consistent policy on this stuff and be aboveboard with it, if they want any pretense at being taken seriously as caring about DV.

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

26 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

And this, in a nutshell, is why people who try to work with domestic abuse victims have such a challenge. 

Victim recants for (reason) [love him, don't want to ruin his career, afraid he'll do worse when he gets out, he said he was sorry and promised he'd change]

Abuse recurs.  Victim admits recantation was a lie in the face of new abuse. 

For the NFL, add in the possibility of $$$ to the victim to make them go away a la Hardy.

 

Prosecutors hate it because now you have a crime with a victim who has zero credibility.

Police hate DV calls because anything can and does happen, including the victim doing a "flip" and going after the cops who are "taking my man away"

Counselors and other professionals who work with these cases need the Patience of Job and more.

 

I am sick to death of the NFL pretending to care about this stuff. 

Either formulate a clear and consistent policy then follow it consistently, or STFU about it because the "zero tolerance" policy clearly isn't - it's influenced by all sorts of factors including whether or not TMZ has video the NFL in theory could have obtained, but didn't try to.

 

 

 

Once you get to  the point where one was lying about lying it’s a indecipherable mess. 

 

When it comes to DV it makes me wonder if they just restructure the law to require some sort polygraph, especially for this type of scenario or  for the dismissal of charges when a victim about faces to protect someone 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

On 11/28/2018 at 1:36 PM, LABillzFan said:

 

Here it is...

 

It appears Foster went into the Danger Zone, which, according to the speaker, are "your strippers, your red heads, anyone named Tiffany and your hairdressers."

 

 

 

 

The guy in the background makes that video with the hairdressers line.