zevo Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:07 PM, BullBuchanan said: Does it? Expand Yup...I think it does
BringBackOrton Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 10:13 PM, zevo said: Seems to work just fine for cam Expand I’m not sure Cam has had a game where he completed only 8 passes. Ever.
zevo Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:08 PM, BringBackOrton said: I’m not sure Cam has had a game where he completed only 8 passes. Ever. Expand My point is running for a qb that big and athletic can also be a recipe for success....
BullBuchanan Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:07 PM, zevo said: Yup...I think it does Expand Well Cam has yet to have back to back winning seasons, and I don't think he's accomplished very much in this league for all of the talent that he has. I wouldn't want him on my team.
zevo Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:10 PM, BullBuchanan said: Well Cam has yet to have back to back winning seasons, and I don't think he's accomplished very much in this league for all of the talent that he has. I wouldn't want him on my team. Expand He has an nfc championship and nfl mvp award....
BullBuchanan Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:09 PM, zevo said: My point is running for a qb that big and athletic can also be a recipe for success.... Expand What success? On 11/25/2018 at 11:12 PM, zevo said: He has an nfc championship and nfl mvp award.... Expand And he was also the reason his team lost the Super Bowl. He isn't good enough. 1
keepthefaith Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 10:24 PM, jaybee said: He will be traded in three years and be a backup quarterback for a couple years and be out of the league by 2024. Probably sooner. He is an excellent athlete but a very bad quarterback. Expand Right, because after a few starts on a team in transition his entire potential career can be judged.
JoPar_v2 Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:12 PM, BullBuchanan said: What success? And he was also the reason his team lost the Super Bowl. He isn't good enough. Expand Interesting. So you’d rather have Nick Foles than Cam Newton? By your hilarious standards Nick would be better after all. 1
mannc Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 I would like to see Allen throw more, but I blame that on the playcalling more than on Allen. It seemed pretty windy today, too, so maybe not a great day for passing the football.
Matt_In_NH Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 I had the same thought. The first 3rd down they had where he ran for the first down, he had a guy right after the snap to the right that would have been an easy conversion but he was not looking there. Bottom line is right now he is a one read guy, that has to change for him to make it. It's great that he is using his legs though which can give him some confidence and keep the offense moving at times. In the long run though your franchise QB has to be able to throw it more consistently that he does right now. So many bootlegs that generate a lot of time to pass and he often just hoofs it for 3-4 yards.
longtimebillsfan Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:01 PM, BringBackOrton said: Tyrod got traded, and then thrown on a scrap heap, so any parallels to Tyrod are bad. Expand You missed the point entirely. But that is ok. I am a fan of Allen. Not everyone will be. That is what this board if for.
keepthefaith Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 10:06 PM, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. Expand Yes and the lack of a running game from the running backs is very troubling. The backs need to run more and more effectively and Allen needs to run less.
Misterbluesky Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 10:06 PM, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. Expand He sure double guesses easy throws to the flat....Croom and Jones today,for example.
BullBuchanan Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:16 PM, JoPar_v2 said: Interesting. So you’d rather have Nick Foles than Cam Newton? By your hilarious standards Nick would be better after all. Expand I'm not sure they're that different in their ability to win football games. Foles had one great year and so did Cam. They both look terrible sometimes, and Cam has this way of absolutely blowing it against teams he should crush. I just don't think Newton is a very good QB. He'll come out one week and look like an MVP, and then he can't complete obvious reads and easy passes. He's inconsistent in the worst ways.
John from Riverside Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:19 PM, keepthefaith said: Yes and the lack of a running game from the running backs is very troubling. The backs need to run more and more effectively and Allen needs to run less. Expand I got very nervous on the run where Josh got bent over backwards THAT is how you blow out your knee 1 1
billspro Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 10:06 PM, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. Expand To be fair that is a very good defence to go against, especially not playing the last few weeks.
Mat68 Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:16 PM, mattynh said: I had the same thought. The first 3rd down they had where he ran for the first down, he had a guy right after the snap to the right that would have been an easy conversion but he was not looking there. Bottom line is right now he is a one read guy, that has to change for him to make it. It's great that he is using his legs though which can give him some confidence and keep the offense moving at times. In the long run though your franchise QB has to be able to throw it more consistently that he does right now. So many bootlegs that generate a lot of time to pass and he often just hoofs it for 3-4 yards. Expand Because he didn't throw it underneath right away does not indicate he is a one read qb. You dont know the passing concept and his coaching dictated by pressure or defensive alignment. Give me a break. Allen has faced by far the toughest defenses than any of the other rookies in his class. Also has the worst offensive supporting cast. He looks like a guy to build around. They won because of Josh Allen today not inspite.
Mango Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 Not sure why everybody is so defensive. Allen did some good things today but it’s OK to question a QB who completes 42% of his passes. This is his third game he’s completed less than 50% of his passes this season 1
NoSaint Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 10:11 PM, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said: Ummm he threw a lot of good pass's, Thompson dropped one and penalties killed a few, quit looking at the stats Expand He only completed 4(?) passes after the first quarter. Even with gifting him drops and penalties you are looking at 6? 7? completions in 3 quarters. He will definitely have to step up but you take wins how you can get them with a young guy and he got it
Bing Bong Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 That 40 some odd rush was my favorite play this game. A lot of other Quarterbacks might have taken a sack and the better ones would have marched up the field for those yards. Doesn't matter how you get em Josh sealed the game thurr. If he's 33 and we're griping about how reckless he was rookie year THEN THAT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE given we have a 10 year franchise QB 1
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