Le'Veon Bell Will Sit Out for the Entire 2018 Season

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[machine gun kelly]

If he comes back, the debate I heard on NFLR was about a transition tag on full year salary, or what he makes for the remainder of the year which is only about $8,000,000.  That would still be around the top RB in the NFL.

 

I hope they do it and he ends up on a crappy team for 9 or 10 mil.

 

im so sick of this guy and the non-stop talking about the issue.  It will end up going away after Tuesday.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[CommonCents]

Bell and his agent spinning it like they are doing a service for other players is pretty funny. The only service they did was show how different a non committal, pot smoking RB gets treated vs. a guy like Gurley when it’s contract time. 

 

Players do get screwed in the NFL in comparison to other sports but I will save my sympathy for guys that never hurt their own team. 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[billsfan_34]

9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He would just sit out again. They are better off just letting him walk rather than dealing with the headache.

 

 

885k a game he has given up so far- from a financial standpoint Bell is looking more and more ridiculous. I get the long term, guaranteed deal he is most likely looking for but damn, take the dough, play ball, and continue negotiating. If negotiations fall thru you are in the drivers seat next year- the Steelers would have to pay huge to keep Bell and really, at his age, a healthy tag followed my a monster tag is probably what he would of received over 4-5 years. RB’s in todays NFL just dont command the cash anymore.

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

885k a game he has given up so far- from a financial standpoint Bell is looking more and more ridiculous. I get the long term, guaranteed deal he is most likely looking for but damn, take the dough, play ball, and continue negotiating. If negotiations fall thru you are in the drivers seat next year- the Steelers would have to pay huge to keep Bell and really, at his age, a healthy tag followed my a monster tag is probably what he would of received over 4-5 years. RB’s in todays NFL just dont command the cash anymore.

 

They don't?  Todd Gurley

[billsfan_34]

18 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

They don't?  Todd Gurley

A few outliers for sure my friend- as a collective hole and at his age not so much.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, billsfan_34 said:

A few outliers for sure my friend- as a collective hole and at his age not so much.

 

At 26 years old, Bell is set for at least a few more seasons of prime performance. 

 

 

[The Process]

I'm not going to work Monday. I don't care that I accepted my salary a year ago. I want more. If I stay out till Thursday with no doctor's note I'll be fired. These spoiled rotten brats piss me off! 

[26CornerBlitz]

4 minutes ago, The Process said:

I'm not going to work Monday. I don't care that I accepted my salary a year ago. I want more. If I stay out till Thursday with no doctor's note I'll be fired. These spoiled rotten brats piss me off! 

 

He doesn't care because it's his body and career that are on the line.  What he's doing is well within the parameters of the negotiated CBA.  This kind of fan outrage is rather puzzling. 

[The Process]

17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He doesn't care because it's his body and career that are on the line.  What he's doing is well within the parameters of the negotiated CBA.  This kind of fan outrage is rather puzzling. 

I didn't say he was breaking any rules.....(CBA).  It's the big picture....perception.....it's BS.  Before the season started and the development of Connor, he knew his absence would affect HIS team. This tells me he doesn't care about the team. It's plain and simple.....selfish and spoiled. As a working stiff, even I will look at our departments coverage when considering a vacation that could leave them short handed. I say MAN UP  and play the game you were blessed with skills to play. 10 Million, 15 Million, 20 Million.....I mean.....REALLY?

[Mr. WEO]

10 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

It was a gamble sitting out this season and passing on $14 million. But obviously Bell factored in the risk of serious injury (this happened to Matt Forte in a similar situation), which would destroy his future value. So I don't think it's an irrational decision at all. Whether he will ultimately come out ahead, well, who knows ...

 

Or he could have signed the best offer he is going tonreceivev from many team.

 

If he's that worried about getting injured given the milage on him or whatever, that's also what the next team that signs him will worry about as well....especially after doing nothing for a year.

 

 

If he was truly "betting on himself", he would have played, made another 14 million and, assuming he had a strong season, perhaps proven to another team that he may be close to what he's asking for.

 

He totally misplayed this if he doesn't come back  by Tuesday.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, The Process said:

I didn't say he was breaking any rules.....(CBA).  It's the big picture....perception.....it's BS.  Before the season started and the development of Connor, he knew his absence would affect HIS team. This tells me he doesn't care about the team. It's plain and simple.....selfish and spoiled. As a working stiff, even I will look at our departments coverage when considering a vacation that could leave them short handed. I say MAN UP  and play the game you were blessed with skills to play. 10 Million, 15 Million, 20 Million.....I mean.....REALLY?

 

Here we go. I knew the comparison to yourself in your working capacity was coming.  What you do in your life has nothing to do with him as a professional athlete with a typically short career span.   This is nothing but envy as I suspected.  Are you going to be there if and when his body is broken down with exhorbitant medical expenses?  I rather doubt it and it's none of your concern where you get to the point of outrage. 

[oldmanfan]

I suspect he's costing himself a ton of $$

[jahnyc]

Any team looking at Bell would have to consider his history, which includes a prior league suspension and injuries, and now his sitting out an entire season.  Bell and his agent have been operating in a manner consistent with the terms of the CBA to this point, but it appears that a potential loophole will may allow him to become a free agent next season because the Steelers will not be able to afford the cost of franchising him for a third year at the QB level.  If I were in a front office considering Bell as a free agent acquisition, I would question whether Bell was a "team" kind of guy and find incomprehensible his lack of communication (and his agent's lack of communication) with the Steelers before the season start and during the season.  Having said all of this, I would not be surprised if the Jets or Colts sign Bell this offseason to a massive deal.

 

Overall, unfortunate for the Steelers and my fantasy team.  The Steelers seem pretty close to this year to being a top team, and having Bell might make a difference in the playoffs.  

Edited November 11, 2018 by jahnyc

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, jahnyc said:

Any team looking at Bell would have to consider his history, which includes a prior league suspension and injuries, and now his sitting out an entire season.  Bell and his agent have been operating in a manner consistent with the terms of the CBA to this point, but it appears that a potential loophole will may allow him to become a free agent next season because the Steelers will not be able to afford the cost of franchising him for a third year at the QB level.  If I were in a front office considering Bell as a free agent acquisition, I would question whether Bell was a "team" kind of guy and find incomprehensible his lack of communication (and his agent's lack of communication) with the Steelers before the season start and during the season.  Having said all of this, I would not be surprised if the Jets or Colts sign Bell this offseason to a massive deal.

 

Overall, unfortunate for the Steelers and my fantasy team.  The Steelers seem pretty close to this year to being a top team, and having Bell might make a difference in the playoffs.  

 

They seem to be doing just fine without him.  James Conner has been excellent in his season long absence and the Steelers' offense hasn't missed a beat. 

[jahnyc]

I agree that Conner has played really well this season, but he has a concussion now and even though he likely will be cleared to play this week, having two quality RBs (with Bell being relatively fresh) heading into the playoffs could be a major plus given the grind and intensity of playoff games after a long regular season.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, jahnyc said:

I agree that Conner has played really well this season, but he has a concussion now and even though he likely will be cleared to play this week, having two quality RBs (with Bell being relatively fresh) heading into the playoffs could be a major plus given the grind and intensity of playoff games after a long regular season.

 

Good point. Looks like that's not going to happen, but we'll know for certain by Tuesday at 4 PM ET.

[billsfan_34]

58 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

At 26 years old, Bell is set for at least a few more seasons of prime performance. 

 

 

27 in feb- 3 years til 30 basically. Definitely would get high performance. My point was teams would sign him with that in mind- 40 mil in 2 years of tags isnt chump change at all. I would tend to think his first 2 years of a new deal would be front loaded and then taper off with a cap friendly out.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

After watching the Steelers #1 O-Line in action I think even I could get 4.0 YPC. 

[RaoulDuke79]

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. Who's to say he wont get hit by a bus tomorrow? From where I come from you don't pass on 14.5 million. 

Edited November 11, 2018 by RaoulDuke79

[26CornerBlitz]

4 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. Who's to say he wont get hit by a bus tomorrow? From where I come from you don't pass on 14.5 million. 

 

Definitely a calculated risk that could easily prove to be a bad decision. 

[Jerome007]

He's an elite RB, and BTW I love me some Shady so don't want to downplay the position, but the OFFENSIVE LINE matters more- hence that's where the money should go first. The Steelers proved it this year as they barely lost a step without Bell. And when the Cowboys had the best one for Elliot and Prescott rookie seasons these two looked like superstars, while the line is diminished now and they look OK, no more. Yeah Mahomes is playing awesome, and his Wrs, backs and TE are off the chart in talent as a group, but again that OLine is one of the best. Not coincidence.

 

If Bills fans can't see how losing Incognito hurt badly this year, maybe you should pay more attention when watching games... The duo Incognito-McCoy was MONEY. The Bills OLine is the least paid in the league this year and the offense is the worst, with all QBs except Allen having horrible stats, and even Josh's numbers are damn low compared to his obvious talent.

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Sandhill Mike]

8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

No, it's him ruining the league, do you really want star players doing this and demanding trades and so forth. The last thing the NFL needs is to become the NBA.

 

 

That was my first thought... he seems like a perfect fit for the NBA.

 

Bell is free to do whatever he wants, as are any of us.  There are consequences to some actions.  If I'm a potential employer, I see a guy that is more of an individual than a team player.  Nothing wrong with that... unless you're the person in charge of putting a team together.  Instead of getting into the trenches with his teammates... and it's not like he's been captured and held hostage by Pittsburgh, they've not broken any rules with him... he's staying at home and waiting for a better deal, more to his liking.

 

He already played for a consistent winner and made great money... how many other teams can he go play for where his odds of winning will increase AND they'll pay him more money?  He's burned his bridge in Pittsburgh and won't get to take that offensive line nor future HOF QB with him.  I don't deny the guy has talent but I think he's rolling the dice with his career.

 

Fortunately for him, he will most likely be signed by a team that is already loaded with talent and just needs another gun or two in the armory.

[Bing Bong]

12 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

 We're all clearly seeing just how badly missed a star RB of his caliber is in Pittsburgh!

 

Only game the Bills have played worth a crap this year was completely missed by Shady, too.

 

Pound and ground!  Control the line of scrimmage!

 

Ugh so out of  context what's your beef with running backs? They'd be a better team no doubt. James Connor is in concussion protocol. It might be great if they could replace him with THE BEST RB IN THE GAME. 

 

Steelers with and without L Bell are an elite to great team. Literally has nothing to do with Shady who's impact is the same on a team that's a dumpster fire with or without him

[cba fan]

12 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Steelers Don't Expect Le'Veon Bell to Play in '18

Don't expect Le'Veon Bell to show up to the Steelers facility, or anytime this season for that matter.The team is not expecting their star RB to play for them this season, sources told Ian Rapoport.

 

 

 

Don't expect Le'Veon Bell to show up to the Pittsburgh Steelers facility next week, or anytime this season for that matter.

 

Despite owner Art Rooney's recent comments anticipating Bell's return to the facility, the team is not expecting their star RB to play for them this season, sources told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport.

 

Rapoport added Pittsburgh wants him back on the roster, but the front office believes Bell will stay away and await free agency in 2019.

 

Sources: Bell Not Expected to Show by Deadline

 

Pittsburgh Steelers running back Le'Veon Bell is unlikely to report to the team by Tuesday's deadline, which would make him ineligible to play the rest of this season, multiple league sources tell ESPN.

 

Even as the Steelers now brace to lose their marquee running back for the entire season, Bell's camp continues to maintain its cone of silence and repeatedly has declined to address with reporters his plans for the coming week.

 

As the team and its fans await Tuesday's 4 p.m. ET deadline, by which Bell must report or be ineligible to play for the remainder of the season, it is worth remembering what the Pro Bowl back said in January.

Ten months ago, Bell said he "definitely would consider" sitting out the 2018 season or retiring if the Steelers used the franchise tag on him for a second consecutive season. The Steelers did use the tag, and there are no indications that Bell will report by the deadline.

 

This is getting more screwed up than a Stormy Daniels presser pre and after party.

 

Everyone seems to think this new loophole is money for Bell. And he and his agents are geniuses for figuring this all out at the 11th hour.

 

I have not heard anything conclusive on this new interpretation of the cba. IE: that this year counts if he does not show up and receive the salary and next year would be 3rd tag. And that third tag is top five in NFL vs top RB and salary from this year is no factor.

 

DOES ANYONE REALLY KNOW?

 

Also no conclusive proof his 3rd tag would be calculated from the money he made this year (which would be zero if he does not report) or the contract available(which he did not sign and refused forfeited)

 

Or that he could be transition tagged for salary of 20% bump from this year(which again is not clear if it is money actually earned or money he was offered if he had accepted the tender)

 

This is all going to arbitration and then courts and Bell could be held up playing next year waiting for it to all play out. Maybe, but likely it is fast tracked to prevent NFL liability if Bell is delayed earning an income next year.

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, cba fan said:

This is getting more screwed up than a Stormy Daniels presser pre and after party.

 

Everyone seems to think this new loophole is money for Bell. And he and his agents are geniuses for figuring this all out at the 11th hour.

 

I have not heard anything conclusive on this new interpretation of the cba. IE: that this year counts if he does not show up and receive the salary and next year would be 3rd tag. And that third tag is top five in NFL vs top RB and salary from this year is no factor.

 

DOES ANYONE REALLY KNOW?

 

Also no conclusive proof his 3rd tag would be calculated from the money he made this year (which would be zero if he does not report) or the contract available(which he did not sign and refused forfeited)

 

Or that he could be transition tagged for salary of 20% bump from this year(which again is not clear if it is money actually earned or money he was offered if he had accepted the tender)

 

This is all going to arbitration and then courts and Bell could be held up playing next year waiting for it to all play out. Maybe, but likely it is fast tracked to prevent NFL liability if Bell is delayed earning an income next year.

 

I believe PIT will just avoid the headache and distraction.  

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

12 hours ago, Laughing Coffin said:

I hope the Steelers transition tag him next season lolll

 

 

12 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He would just sit out again. They are better off just letting him walk rather than dealing with the headache.

 

 

 

 

Read an article not that long ago that said they likely would give him transition tag from what I've read would cost them between $10 to $15 mil. Gives him the option to negotiate with other teams so can't see why he'd sit out.  Will be surprised if any teams really offer him what he thinks he's going to get or maybe will get a big contract but for short term, probably about what he'd have got this year under the tag.  Connor playing as well as he has, hasn't helped Bell's cause much.  Shows how indispensable RB's really are.

 

One thing that did surprise me a bit is that I knew players received a game check for each weeks game, assumed it was their total salary divided by 16, didn't realize it include the bye weeks so it's salary divided by 17.

 

 

 

[Elite Poster]

Good. Conner is serving my team so well.

[jahnyc]

Wouldn't the NFL owners challenge this interpretation of the CBA?  Why would they cave on this point without at least attempting a challenge?

[Bing Bong]

He would have been our best reciever this year lol. Wideout, slot, flats. And that ain't even his best attribute.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Bing Bong]

3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Dude.. **** the Steelers

 

Team Le'Veon

Edited November 11, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[LSHMEAB]

When did this country become so pro-management?

 

It's kind of creepy really. Good for him.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Bing Bong]

1 hour ago, The Process said:

I didn't say he was breaking any rules.....(CBA).  It's the big picture....perception.....it's BS.  Before the season started and the development of Connor, he knew his absence would affect HIS team. This tells me he doesn't care about the team. It's plain and simple.....selfish and spoiled. As a working stiff, even I will look at our departments coverage when considering a vacation that could leave them short handed. I say MAN UP  and play the game you were blessed with skills to play. 10 Million, 15 Million, 20 Million.....I mean.....REALLY?

You don't realize franchise tags suck donkey balls for players WORTH 20M in the world's most precarious position: transcendental talent that you and I aren't worth and can't possibly understand.

 

Dude's an injury away from not getting paid his worth.. you and i's holiday vacation isn't the end of the world, and you and I are not looking at getting fired from 20m salariea on any given moment after a career ending injury with no compensation because we've been franchise tagged at work.

 

Your analogy to work breaks down on the fact that Le'Veon Bell is extremely visible and marketable to other employers in a way we will never be.

6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

When did this country become so pro-management?

 

It's kind of creepy really. Good for him.

Hahaha I guess that's sums up my feelings. Dude's getting screwed in a very precarious position and sport and we're just equating it to our crappy jobs saying "WE GET SCREWED ALL THE TIME HE SHOULD GET SCREWED EVEN MORE WHAT WITH ALL THE MONEY HE HAS THAT I WANT"

Edited November 11, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[The Process]

8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Here we go. I knew the comparison to yourself in your working capacity was coming.  What you do in your life has nothing to do with him as a professional athlete with a typically short career span.   This is nothing but envy as I suspected.  Are you going to be there if and when his body is broken down with exhorbitant medical expenses?  I rather doubt it and it's none of your concern where you get to the point of outrage. 

haha his medical expenses are not what he's crying about......dude has millions

8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Here we go. I knew the comparison to yourself in your working capacity was coming.  What you do in your life has nothing to do with him as a professional athlete with a typically short career span.   This is nothing but envy as I suspected.  Are you going to be there if and when his body is broken down with exhorbitant medical expenses?  I rather doubt it and it's none of your concern where you get to the point of outrage. 

According to NFL.com, the Steelers made one final offer to Bell on Monday, just hours before the NFL's 4 p.m. ET deadline for teams to negotiate a new contract with their franchise player. The offer from the Steelers was worth a total of $70 million over five years (or $14 million per season). Although the offer would have given Bell the largest multi-year contract of any running back in the NFL, he turned it down, and one reason he likely did that, is because it was nowhere near his asking price, which was reportedly in the neighborhood of $17 million per season.......need more info?

[BringBackOrton]

Bell is a moron.